Finally, Rezz's GT3 drifting vid...

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It's a 34 meg file done at 15fp/s, so if you like it please d/l it, as I can only host one vid at a time. It's just the first 3/4s of Grand Valley, up to the bridge, so if you want to see the rest just let me know. I've got other GT3 drift vids of Apricot Hill and Trial Mountain, so if you like this one, I can put up the others.



**Sorry about the lines that appear across the TV screen. Does anyone know how to get rid of them?



GT3 Drift at Grand Valley
 
Clean drifts. Your camber settings looks crazy, but that's you. Evryone has their own preference to drift their car. Keep it up ! 👍
Welcome to GTP! :D
 
Originally posted by bustwave.
Clean drifts. Your camber settings looks crazy...
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Try it... the 10 degrees neg camber makes the front end really stable (with super soft tires), aswell as making the car feel more "steady" at full lock... not to mention the front end is a fraction lower than with 2 - 3 degrees neg camber.
 
Originally posted by Rezz
Hahaha... "JDM", as in Japanese Domestic Market? You guys actually say that?:D
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yeah and actually we say alot of things like dori,dori or dorifto



ps... enjoy ur stay at gtp
 
Well, You seam to be using the e-brake like it's going out of style, which is fine, but is kind of an amature technique........ You need to smooth out your drifts, by making smaller adjustments to the throttle, and countersteering. That camber setting, while unique, is not completely ideal, and could be one reason why the car looks a little out of control. It also sounds like your gear ratios might be too close together, if you widen them a bit, you wouldn't be bouncing off the redline so much..........

Now that I've said that, It looks like you have a decent sense of technique, but it's a little unrefined, just smooth it out, and I think you'll have something....... Keep up the practice, and keep us posted on your progress..............



;)
 
Thanks for taking the time out to review my drifting silviadrifter :) ...

...but just a few things:

Originally posted by silviadrifter
Well, You seam to be using the e-brake like it's going out of style, which is fine, but is kind of an amature technique
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Amature? Please let me in on how you're supposed to approach the corner all crossed up *earlier* without using the e-brake...? (which, incedently was what I was trying to do)

Originally posted by silviadrifter

........ You need to smooth out your drifts, by making smaller adjustments to the throttle, and countersteering. That camber setting, while unique, is not completely ideal, and could be one reason why the car looks a little out of control.
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Yep, tried that... a looooong time ago (April '01, right after the Japan release), but the smaller throttle adjustments don't really make any difference to the final outcome... oh, and that camber I have works just fine for me!

Originally posted by silviadrifter

It also sounds like your gear ratios might be too close together, if you widen them a bit, you wouldn't be bouncing off the redline so much..........
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It's the same as the throttle adjustments, bouncing off the rev limiter doesn't affect the final outcome. The reason I use the superclose gearing is the have instant wheel spinning power in any gear... even 6th for the real long corners, like at Apricot Hill.

Originally posted by silviadrifter

Now that I've said that, It looks like you have a decent sense of technique, but it's a little unrefined, just smooth it out, and I think you'll have something....... Keep up the practice, and keep us posted on your progress....
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Thanks for that, but I just wanna go in there and pull off the longest, most crossed drift possible (that the layout of the track will allow). I've seen your vids silviadrifter, and one thing I would've noted about your drift was that it wasn't agressive enough!!!:D Horses for courses hey? ;)

So, in the end, I guess one way of drifting or another is all good, it's just what you want to achieve...

I'm not dissing your advice in any way silviadrifter, like I say, thanks for taking the time out.:):)
 
damn that front camber looks GANGSTER! :trouble:

as far as the vid... it was a decent drift run... seems like you engaged all (if not all, MOST) of the drifts with the e-brake...

and also you were hitting your rev limit a couple times = try to adjust your gear-ratios.

:D
 
Originally posted by Rezz
Thanks for taking the time out to review my drifting silviadrifter :) ...

...but just a few things:


Amature? Please let me in on how you're supposed to approach the corner all crossed up *earlier* without using the e-brake...? (which, incedently was what I was trying to do)


Yep, tried that... a looooong time ago (April '01, right after the Japan release), but the smaller throttle adjustments don't really make any difference to the final outcome... oh, and that camber I have works just fine for me!


It's the same as the throttle adjustments, bouncing off the rev limiter doesn't affect the final outcome. The reason I use the superclose gearing is the have instant wheel spinning power in any gear... even 6th for the real long corners, like at Apricot Hill.


Thanks for that, but I just wanna go in there and pull off the longest, most crossed drift possible (that the layout of the track will allow). I've seen your vids silviadrifter, and one thing I would've noted about your drift was that it wasn't agressive enough!!!:D Horses for courses hey? ;)

So, in the end, I guess one way of drifting or another is all good, it's just what you want to achieve...

I'm not dissing your advice in any way silviadrifter, like I say, thanks for taking the time out.:):)
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LOL, you use weight transfer to get sideways before the turn. You don't have to use the e-brake. Furthermore, the more delicate throttle adjustments are essential for a smooth drift. However, you don't seam to care if the drift is smooth. Also, If you want to use that crazy camber, and limit yourself, that's fine, but it is destroying the balance of the car, along with everything else you've got goin' on there. If you set up your gears balanced, you have the perfect amount of power for each gear. That redline bouncing, is your power being cut off, and how is that helping?...... Your trying to tell me that bouncing off the rev limiter, doesn't effect anything? You are quite mistaken, and you are fooling yourself. If you understood anything automotive, you would not be saying such foolish things, and yes, real life tuning and techniques transfer over perfectly to GT3..............

and finally, your going to diss my vids, when yours is nothing in comparison. Here's some more info for ya, the vids in my sig, are full of clips over a year to a year and a half old. I have been drifting constantly since then. I have posted other snipits, and practice runs and whatnot, but the best stuff, is still on my HD, and it will be unleashed within the next month, so watch your mouth............

If you just want to drift around for kicks, and not worry about your technique, and fluidity, that's fine, but I prefer bigger angles, smoother lines, and refined technique................ I guess I'm just a purist.....

Keep up the practice, and study real life drift techniques (if you want to get really good), and keep us posted on your progress.......


;)
 
Originally posted by silviadrifter
LOL, you use weight transfer to get sideways before the turn. You don't have to use the e-brake. Furthermore, the more delicate throttle adjustments are essential for a smooth drift. However, you don't seam to care if the drift is smooth. Also, If you want to use that crazy camber, and limit yourself, that's fine, but it is destroying the balance of the car, along with everything else you've got goin' on there. If you set up your gears balanced, you have the perfect amount of power for each gear. That redline bouncing, is your power being cut off, and how is that helping?...... Your trying to tell me that bouncing off the rev limiter, doesn't effect anything? You are quite mistaken, and you are fooling yourself. If you understood anything automotive, you would not be saying such foolish things, and yes, real life tuning and techniques transfer over perfectly to GT3..............

and finally, your going to diss my vids, when yours is nothing in comparison. Here's some more info for ya, the vids in my sig, are full of clips over a year to a year and a half old. I have been drifting constantly since then. I have posted other snipits, and practice runs and whatnot, but the best stuff, is still on my HD, and it will be unleashed within the next month, so watch your mouth............

If you just want to drift around for kicks, and not worry about your technique, and fluidity, that's fine, but I prefer bigger angles, smoother lines, and refined technique................ I guess I'm just a purist.....

Keep up the practice, and study real life drift techniques (if you want to get really good), and keep us posted on your progress.......


;)
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:eek: whhhhhoa :eek:

don't think you can come back after that one :lol:

oh... and nice post silviadrifter 👍
 
Originally posted by silviadrifter

and finally, your going to diss my vids, when yours is nothing in comparison. Here's some more info for ya, the vids in my sig, are full of clips over a year to a year and a half old. I have been drifting constantly since then. I have posted other snipits, and practice runs and whatnot, but the best stuff, is still on my HD, and it will be unleashed within the next month, so watch your mouth............
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:odd: he wasnt dissing your vids!! why are you being so defensive?:confused:

critisism goes both ways, you have you style and rezz has his
 
Originally posted by silviadrifter
LOL, you use weight transfer to get sideways before the turn. You don't have to use the e-brake.
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Weight transfer will never get you sliding earlier approaching a corner than using the e-brake. Never. You know why? Because with the e-brake you can "snake" the car almost in a straight line by yanking the e-brake up and down with the car totally crossed up. Try doing that by using weight transfer.

Originally posted by silviadrifter
Furthermore, the more delicate throttle adjustments are essential for a smooth drift. However, you don't seam to care if the drift is smooth.
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And since when have you cared whether I care about smooth drifting or not???

Originally posted by silviadrifter
Also, If you want to use that crazy camber, and limit yourself, that's fine, but it is destroying the balance of the car,
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THAT, buddy, is your opinion, which I don't agree with. And limiting myself? What, so I can't be the GT3 World Drifting Champ??? Oh nooooooooo....:irked:

Originally posted by silviadrifter
That redline bouncing, is your power being cut off, and how is that helping?...... Your trying to tell me that bouncing off the rev limiter, doesn't effect anything? You are quite mistaken, and you are fooling yourself. If you understood anything automotive, you would not be saying such foolish things, and yes, real life tuning and techniques transfer over perfectly to GT3....
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Yeah, and if you understood anything about changing down gears carrying too much speed into a corner (ie: compression lockup) that it actually aids braking... but that only applies to real world cars. We are talking about a *game* here, I don't care how good it is, having the rev limiter bounce is just you having a rant coz of the sound... thats all it is dude, a sooooouuuunnnnd. Am I saying foolish things? Hey lets go to an auto mechanic and tell him how you say the rev limiter bouncing causes all this mayhem on a computer game!!! haha. Whatever.

Originally posted by silviadrifter
and finally, your going to diss my vids, when yours is nothing in comparison. Here's some more info for ya, the vids in my sig, are full of clips over a year to a year and a half old. I have been drifting constantly since then. I have posted other snipits, and practice runs and whatnot, but the best stuff, is still on my HD, and it will be unleashed within the next month, so watch your mouth............
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This is the response that really got to me...

Well man, judging by the way you COMPLETELY took me out of context (I was being really polite in my previous post if you couldn't figure it out already) and tried to PUT ME DOWN with all heresay about how you're *gonna* post up all these vids of your infinitely better drifting styles has made me come to conclude that:

a) You are between 13 - 15 years old,

b) you really are in awe of my drift and are pissed off that someone out there does it as good as yourself, but completely differently,

and c) you somehow think you're my mom, by you telling me to "watch my mouth", trying to belittle me once more, even though YOU'RE THE ONE that started these condescending replies in the fist place.

Originally posted by silviadrifter
If you just want to drift around for kicks, and not worry about your technique, and fluidity, that's fine, but I prefer bigger angles, smoother lines, and refined technique................ I guess I'm just a purist.....
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Thanks for letting me in on how hardcore you are.

I really don't care anymore what you think of my vid. I put it up there just to see what you guys thought, but it seems that some people don't like what I'm doing... how fcuking strange
 
Yup, Sliviadrifter completely took that out of context. I understand where both of you are coming from and I guess you just gotta do what works for you. Anyway, I didn't watch your vid Rezz since it's like 34MB and I only have 56K, but if you'd like to check out one of mine here it is. I have a few others on my hard drive but this is the only one hosted right now. I'm actually working on a new one right now.

http://gwinbeer.com/drifting/vids/180sx_battle_w5.WMV
 
Originally posted by Rezz
Weight transfer will never get you sliding earlier approaching a corner than using the e-brake. Never. You know why? Because with the e-brake you can "snake" the car almost in a straight line by yanking the e-brake up and down with the car totally crossed up. Try doing that by using weight transfer.


And since when have you cared whether I care about smooth drifting or not???


THAT, buddy, is your opinion, which I don't agree with. And limiting myself? What, so I can't be the GT3 World Drifting Champ??? Oh nooooooooo....:irked:


Yeah, and if you understood anything about changing down gears carrying too much speed into a corner (ie: compression lockup) that it actually aids braking... but that only applies to real world cars. We are talking about a *game* here, I don't care how good it is, having the rev limiter bounce is just you having a rant coz of the sound... thats all it is dude, a sooooouuuunnnnd. Am I saying foolish things? Hey lets go to an auto mechanic and tell him how you say the rev limiter bouncing causes all this mayhem on a computer game!!! haha. Whatever.


This is the response that really got to me...

Well man, judging by the way you COMPLETELY took me out of context (I was being really polite in my previous post if you couldn't figure it out already) and tried to PUT ME DOWN with all heresay about how you're *gonna* post up all these vids of your infinitely better drifting styles has made me come to conclude that:

a) You are between 13 - 15 years old,

b) you really are in awe of my drift and are pissed off that someone out there does it as good as yourself, but completely differently,

and c) you somehow think you're my mom, by you telling me to "watch my mouth", trying to belittle me once more, even though YOU'RE THE ONE that started these condescending replies in the fist place.


Thanks for letting me in on how hardcore you are.

I really don't care anymore what you think of my vid. I put it up there just to see what you guys thought, but it seems that some people don't like what I'm doing... how fcuking strange
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hoy!! why don't u guys settle this in a battle or at least stop this ( we are all drift fans aren't we )( i know i sometimes disagree with lets all be friends thing) and this is going to be like the akina incident
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
hoy!! why don't u guys settle this in a battle or at least stop this ( we are all drift fans aren't we )( i know i sometimes disagree with lets all be friends thing) and this is going to be like the akina incident
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It's all good from where I stand man... no offence taken (this is the internet afterall...;) ) but silviadrifters replies really made me think that the dude is somehow envious of my abilities on GT3, and quickly tried to "dust me under the carpet" as it were, with the attacking and condescending replies.

Oh well... back to rev-limited, "e-brake all over the place" drifting in GT3!:D

Yay for me.:indiff:
 
Originally posted by Rezz
It's all good from where I stand man... no offence taken (this is the internet afterall...;) ) but silviadrifters replies really made me think that the dude is somehow envious of my abilities on GT3, and quickly tried to "dust me under the carpet" as it were, with the attacking and condescending replies.

Oh well... back to rev-limited, "e-brake all over the place" drifting in GT3!:D

Yay for me.:indiff:
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by knowing silvia drifter, he is a good drifter and also a head judge, but i know we all have potenial, but last time we had a agrument the person got banned, i don't want that to happen to another good drifter. and SD i even e brake sometimes to get in the corners so just leave it man
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
by knowing silvia drifter, he is a good drifter
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Yep, and thats exactly my other point... I never said he was a bad drifter. Although he seems to think it's ok directly critiszing me.

So thats it from me... cheers everybody who gave feedback :)
 
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Yep, and thats exactly my other point... I never said he was a bad drifter. Although he seems to think it's ok directly critiszing me.

So thats it from me... cheers everybody who gave feedback :)
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well thank you for the vid it was very good and even better than me when i started out
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
well thank you for the vid it was very good and even better than me when i started out
and do u have AIM or MSN
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I've been drifting in GT3 since the Japan release in April '01... so I've done just about everything to try and drift better. That vid I made about 12 months ago (same as the Apricot Hill vid) and I haven't really bothered to top the Grand Valley effort since.

Oh, and I'm on MSN...
 
You are doing fine man. I like your style, its aggressive and entertaining. I remember I used to get really upset when someone would knock on using the ebrake. You can try looking through my history of posts, I think I've argued it to death now trying to convince others that using it is essential for exhibition drifting to give it that flare.

I look at how well you maintain the opposite lock throughout your drifts, how well you maintain your angle, and how you link corners. From my observations, I'd say you have a good understanding of drifting and just keep it up. The more you practice, you will pick up on new drift techniques, so continue to use what you know. I'd like to see another video.

"Other videos get the benefit of the doubt because they mask the sound out with music."

History of ebrake discussions
http://gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36903
 
VERY good job again.. d*mn two good movies in one day for me.. Yum! And i understand what you mean with that "snaking" with the handbrake. Yeah i love that aswell. :D And no i have no idea what it is called, but its fun and i drift for fun.

Keep em coming. (=
/Eddie.
 
Originally posted by Rezz
Weight transfer will never get you sliding earlier approaching a corner than using the e-brake. Never. You know why? Because with the e-brake you can "snake" the car almost in a straight line by yanking the e-brake up and down with the car totally crossed up. Try doing that by using weight transfer.


And since when have you cared whether I care about smooth drifting or not???


THAT, buddy, is your opinion, which I don't agree with. And limiting myself? What, so I can't be the GT3 World Drifting Champ??? Oh nooooooooo....:irked:


Yeah, and if you understood anything about changing down gears carrying too much speed into a corner (ie: compression lockup) that it actually aids braking... but that only applies to real world cars. We are talking about a *game* here, I don't care how good it is, having the rev limiter bounce is just you having a rant coz of the sound... thats all it is dude, a sooooouuuunnnnd. Am I saying foolish things? Hey lets go to an auto mechanic and tell him how you say the rev limiter bouncing causes all this mayhem on a computer game!!! haha. Whatever.


This is the response that really got to me...

Well man, judging by the way you COMPLETELY took me out of context (I was being really polite in my previous post if you couldn't figure it out already) and tried to PUT ME DOWN with all heresay about how you're *gonna* post up all these vids of your infinitely better drifting styles has made me come to conclude that:

a) You are between 13 - 15 years old,

b) you really are in awe of my drift and are pissed off that someone out there does it as good as yourself, but completely differently,

and c) you somehow think you're my mom, by you telling me to "watch my mouth", trying to belittle me once more, even though YOU'RE THE ONE that started these condescending replies in the fist place.


Thanks for letting me in on how hardcore you are.

I really don't care anymore what you think of my vid. I put it up there just to see what you guys thought, but it seems that some people don't like what I'm doing... how fcuking strange
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I'll admit you I took the vid part out of context, but it pisses me off when people who obviously don't have any drifting knowledge, try to tell me that what I'm doing is wrong........

Furthermore, none of what you posted above makes any sense...... It is a fact, that bouncing off the red line, causes your power to be cut off. This is a simulation game, and it does effect it. If you want to continue to do that, that's fine, I was merely trying to help you become a better drifter, and then you just shot down every bit of criticism I layed down. It seams you are the one who can't take criticism......

Yeah, and if you understood anything about changing down gears carrying too much speed into a corner (ie: compression lockup) that it actually aids braking... but that only applies to real world cars. We are talking about a *game* here, I don't care how good it is, having the rev limiter bounce is just you having a rant coz of the sound... thats all it is dude, a sooooouuuunnnnd. Am I saying foolish things? Hey lets go to an auto mechanic and tell him how you say the rev limiter bouncing causes all this mayhem on a computer game!!! haha. Whatever.
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If you have your gears, and brakes set up correctly, and shift correctly, you don't need all this sloppy nonsense. Your doing twice the amount of work that is needed. Furthermore, this seams to be your style. If that's true, keep it up. There needs to be both sides of the coin, the maveric, and the refined, otherwise there wouldn't be any significance in either.

I don't dislike what I saw in your vid, that was your conclusion. I see promise, but your too stubborn to learn. You seam to be blinded by it. I did not say anything condescending in my first post. I just pointed out things that you could work on to improve, If you can't handle that, then I'm sorry. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with using the e-brake, but it seamed like that was all you were doing. If you learned some more techniques, you would be a more well rounded drifter. Also, you can use weight transfer to get sideways before a turn, you just have not learned how to do it. I would be more than happy to help you with technique, as it is something I have intensely researched, to improve my drifting. Just let me know. You will not get far by shutting down every piece of advice given to you. I hope we can put this behind us. I don't have any enemies here......... I have a hunger to help people become great drifters, and when someone that is obviously lacking in knowledge, just doesn't care, it's frustrating for me. I strive to be the best drifter I can be, and this is only gained through knowledge, and experience. You might have one, but you are lacking in the other. However, the choice is up to you, as it should be.......

Your vid was entertaining, but I think you can still improve, and I hope you do.......




;)
 
Uuuhhhm.. SD, if everyone did the same thing i think it would getting boring pretty fast. Having your own "style" is something _I_ like more then anything. Think that camber, together with how the drifts were performed was great. But sure, learning more techniques is all part of the fun. Well it was to me.

But im pretty sure we will be seeing more styles from you Rezz? Keep em coming bro. I liked it.;)
 

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