FireFox or Mozilla?

[VT]

IE has way too many security flaws, and IMHO after XP SP2 IE became worse. I switched over to Mozilla about two months ago and haven't gone back. Although from reading this thread its making me want to go FireFox. Most of the SP2 stuff I didn't like came from security 'fixes' it 'made' to IE. One that I've noticed is that some Flash animations don't work for 'security' reasons. Its funny because I made those Flash animations myself and posted them on my website, which was hosted from my computer at the time.

Those security flaws in Windows/IE become vastly obvious when you're on a high speed connection ( >= Cable ). I'm running on a 10mb/s network and IE isn't very safe, I've talked to many CS professors being a CS major and none of them use M$IE because of the security flaws.

 

[skip0110]

I had prviously found Firefox to be the better browser, but I after my experiences with it on FreeBSD I can say that it still has not matured in the way that Mozilla is. While the interface is very sleek and intuitive, I think that the Mozilla developers may be jumping the gun...is Firefox really ready for 1.0? I know that mostly the bugs have been worked out, but still needs work in these areas (and this applies to my experience with precompiled versions on Linux also)
1) Event (click) handling is weak when multiple windows are open. Click in one window, load another, and click in it very soon after and it will crash.
2) Plugin speed and stablility. Flash works only intermittently, and mouse/keyboard focus is especially weak...it will "float" in and out of the Flash plugin.
3) Themeing. Anything but the standard theme is very slow.
In a word, I'm fed up. Mozilla 1.7 for now. (Despite all this, it's still more stable than IE.)

 

[Jimmy Enslashay]

I thought that FireFox was made by Mozilla?

 

[Shannon]

I thought that FireFox was made by Mozilla?

Sort of. The Mozilla Foundation is just an open source community. A bunch of developers within this community went off and made Firefox. Another seperate bunch went off and made Thunderbird (standalone email client). And so forth.

 

[Arwin]

IE has way too many security flaws, and IMHO after XP SP2 IE became worse. I switched over to Mozilla about two months ago and haven't gone back. Although from reading this thread its making me want to go FireFox. Most of the SP2 stuff I didn't like came from security 'fixes' it 'made' to IE. One that I've noticed is that some Flash animations don't work for 'security' reasons. Its funny because I made those Flash animations myself and posted them on my website, which was hosted from my computer at the time.

Those security flaws in Windows/IE become vastly obvious when you're on a high speed connection ( >= Cable ). I'm running on a 10mb/s network and IE isn't very safe, I've talked to many CS professors being a CS major and none of them use M$IE because of the security flaws.

I run cable, 8mb/1mb. IE being by far the most popular browser, it's no big surprise more security issues come up.

Anyway, I tested Firefox, and I abandoned it for a very simple reason: the history isn't up to scratch yet. I always pick my sites from the history as that works great, and IE has them ordered by date, then site (in a collapsable treeview structure) and then pages which are represented with a friendly name (pagetitle). That works great and very fast, and is much more efficient than using favorites.

Firefox can order by date or by site, but not both and in the way above, and doesn't use page titles but urls. I also couldn't find a shortcut or button for the history. Other than that it seems reasonably ok, but it's not faster.

 

[Event]

I run cable, 8mb/1mb. IE being by far the most popular browser, it's no big surprise more security issues come up.

Anyway, I tested Firefox, and I abandoned it for a very simple reason: the history isn't up to scratch yet. I always pick my sites from the history as that works great, and IE has them ordered by date, then site (in a collapsable treeview structure) and then pages which are represented with a friendly name (pagetitle). That works great and very fast, and is much more efficient than using favorites.

Firefox can order by date or by site, but not both and in the way above, and doesn't use page titles but urls. I also couldn't find a shortcut or button for the history. Other than that it seems reasonably ok, but it's not faster.

When did you try it last? Now, Firefox has all of those features. The history is the same as in IE, you can put in a history button, and arrange the history like in IE. 👍 Try the new versions!

 

[Arwin]

When did you try it last? Now, Firefox has all of those features. The history is the same as in IE, you can put in a history button, and arrange the history like in IE. 👍 Try the new versions!

Two days ago. Post a screenshot if you manage it and please tell me how you did that. I couldn't, but maybe I missed something.

 

[Event]

I'm using firefox 0.9.3. It might be a little different from 1.0.x

 

[sUn]

I made the switch the day Firefox came out and I haven't looked back since.

 

[240Z]

I use Firefox now, and the only advantage I see that Mozilla has over it is the small "Create new tab" button. Other than that, it's great.

 

[KieranMurphy]

Anyway, I tested Firefox, and I abandoned it for a very simple reason: the history isn't up to scratch yet. I always pick my sites from the history as that works great, and IE has them ordered by date, then site (in a collapsable treeview structure) and then pages which are represented with a friendly name (pagetitle). That works great and very fast, and is much more efficient than using favorites.

I've found Firefox's history better in another way because when I type a URL into the address bar it brings up similar address list like IE does, but it also displays the page title (IE only displays the URL), which is very useful because for forums like this, the URL is pretty much meaningless because it includes PHP code gibberish that's not very user friendly. However, when you can see the thread or forum title like you can in Firefox, it makes it much easier to pick recent pages from the drop down address list.


KM.

 

[Zhukov]

I'm using 0.9.3 of Firefox, and it's great. It is quicker than Microsoft Internet Explorer, and the tab browsing is fabulous. You can click your center mouse button, and it opens pages in the background, especially useful on slower connections, so the pages loads in the back (without opening new windows, and interrupting your reading/viewing), so it's ready when it loads. I just recently switched to Cable Broadband, so the page is there right away, but I still open new pages in tabs.

Pop-up blocker is excellent, I only get one pop-up every time I enter UltimateCarPage forums. It's just one, so I can deal...wonder how they got around Firefox?

Run Spybot and AdAware, and there are no, or so much less spyware than on MIE...no joke.

ps: Is there a way to run Windows Media Viewer, and Real One with Firefox? Or to think about it, I just may try using a "alternative" viewer.

 

[Arwin]

Nice EH, thanks! Starting to look better and better ...

 

[KieranMurphy]

I use Firefox now, and the only advantage I see that Mozilla has over it is the small "Create new tab" button. Other than that, it's great.

Just hit Ctrl+T in Firefox to open a new tab.


KM.

 

[VT]

I have my middle click set to open windows in a new tab in Mozilla. Also, the Ctrl+T opens in a new tab too .. makes sense cuz they're made by the same company.