First DiRT, then GRID, now FUEL.

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They use the image and then copy and paste it all over. It´s not like it´s accurately rendering terrain that size. The size this covers that would mean litterary over 60 gigabyte of data to store :)
 
I've played the PC demo and I thought it was quite fun. Don't have the money to buy it right now though. :(
 
oqvist
They use the image and then copy and paste it all over. It´s not like it´s accurately rendering terrain that size. The size this covers that would mean litterary over 60 gigabyte of data to store :)
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How the model and construct the final environment is not what you stated, you stated that its a computer generated world and its not. Real world data is used for the environments, which does not make them computed generated.

Now I agree that its not going to be acurate down to each and every tree, but that does not mean they were placed randomly by software either.

To be blunt you have made the following claims about Fuel:

  • It uses the DIRT/GRID engine
  • Races are randomly generated
  • The game world is computer generated

None of which are actually correct, on top of that 15 minutes worth of gameplay allows you to state that its gets boring exploring it, yet it takes over three hours to cross the map.

You don't like it, that I can understand, but as I have already said don't start making stuff up about it just to try and score points because it will not get you very far.

The reason why it will not get you far, well its this....

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You will not post any material that is knowingly false, misleading, or inaccurate.
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....if you don't know it to be true and can't back it up factually then don't state it as fact. All three of the points I listed above fall into this area.


Scaff
 
The map size is immense, i also found the graphics okay, but did i found the demo fun? No!
I really dislike the handling, i never had the feeling i was driving off-road, it always feels so.. dunno what the right term is, well, not "rough" enough (rhyme). Compared to MotorStorm i find the driving just boring and what do i get from a huge map if i dislike exploring it? The game couldve used another year of development, to get the gameplay right and on par with its environment.
 
DustDriver
They probably know this also, but not everyone knows this, especially teenagers who only started playing games a couple of years ago.
These are pure commercial statements.

And I also hope they implement steering wheel support.
But hopefully not completely the same as grid.


What I do hope is that you can upgrade (internal/external) and paint the vehicles.
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Whoa whoa, careful how you loosely use the term "teenagers". :p
 
Touring Mars
I downloaded the demo the other day and got round to trying it out and... what a crushing disappointment.:sick:
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I share your ..... opinion. I downloaded the pc demo and this is the worst demo I ever played. The graphics (awful) look a lot like an older pc game, => screamer 4x4.
 
kikie
I share your ..... opinion. I downloaded the pc demo and this is the worst demo I ever played. The graphics (awful) look a lot like an older pc game, => screamer 4x4.
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Really?

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FatAssBR
Really?
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Really!

Not the details but the graphic's. Fuel is much more detailed but the graphic's look the same. Some games have cartoonisch looking graphic's, other games have almost photo realistic graphic's and Fuel reminds me of sreamer 4x4 graphic's.



:)
 
Well the graphics and the details are both more or less the same, i think you mean the artstyle, which i dont really see by Screamer 4x4. lol

But i think FUEL looks good for its scale (except for that stupid HDR which seems to be normal on Codemasters games these days), i think the physics engine is what destroys the game.
 
To be honest it reminds more of 1nsane than it does that other game. Seeming Codemasters made that game originally, I see Fuel as kind of a revival of that game...Just not officially.
 
Speedster502
To be honest it reminds more of 1nsane than it does that other game. Seeming Codemasters made that game originally, I see Fuel as kind of a revival of that game...Just not officially.
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Wrong!
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1nsane is developed by Invictus games Ltd and published by Codemasters.

1nsane is still my favourite off road game.
 
I've been playing the FUEL demo on the PS3. I've got mixed feelings about it so far. I absolutely love the concept of the game and being able to drive or ride wherever I want. But I find driving a bit too easy with the buggy and dirt bike included in the demo. My question is, do the vehicles get harder to drive (eg. possible to lose control?) as you get further into the game? If so, then I just might get this game.
 
I downloaded the demo today and played for a while. I really like the free roam nature of gameplay but to me it seems to lack in wanting me to push foward. All I ever did was go online and follow a bunch of people, which gets boring very soon. Is the full game better or just a continuation of the demo?
 
kikie
Wrong!
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1nsane is developed by Invictus games Ltd and published by Codemasters.

1nsane is still my favourite off road game.
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Well trust me to be wrong :lol:

However, they are kind of similar in sense of offroading, going wherever you want to go, if 1nsane had a free roam then they would be very, very similar. Heck, maybe 1nsane would have been a little better too. Well not graphically but still. :)
 
I just bought this game yesterday, and to my surprise, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. The vastness of the map is definitely the biggest plus point this game have. I'm not sure what makes people think it's empty? It's supposed to be a wastland! Hell, I'm surprised there's still trees standing around :lol:. When I read the game's description I thought the whole area is just going to be a big flat desert, maybe a couple of burnt trees here and there, but nothing like what it's like in-game. The feeling when you're blasting through a forest at dawn is just unbelievable. And when you get up a mountain and see miles and miles of open world in front of you it feels unreal, very different from other driving games I've ever played. And the best thing of all, there's no annoying traffic :D. It's just you, your machine and nature :sly:.

Couple of bad things. First off, the PHYSICS :banghead:. I know this is an arcade game, but can't they make a half decent physics engine? When free roaming you don't notice it much because you're usually driving at high speeds in a straight line. But when you have to make sharp turns during races it feels awful. The suspension feels like it's made of marshmallows, the car feels floaty, the steering too vague and the brakes have no travel (it's either on or off). You also can't configure the buttons. I really don't like the triggers as gas/brake.

Career difficulty is also very unbalanced. Rookie mode is way too easy, Expert and Legend is too hard. There's no middle ground. I can see myself not being able to unlock some of the later zones due to not having enough stars :grumpy:.

I'd also like them to implement the option (as an update) to set time of day to whatever you want (like in Burnout Paradise). I don't like driving around at night since I can't see anything, which defeats the point of free roaming IMO.

BTW, can anyone tell me what are mavericks and doppler trucks? And how to find them? Are they even marked on your map at all? I noticed a couple of green and blue arrows on the map which is what I thought they were, but when I got there there's nothing :confused:. Any help appreciated, thanks 👍.
 
Speedster502
Well trust me to be wrong :lol:
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:confused: I don't get it.

Speedster502
However, they are kind of similar in sense of offroading, going wherever you want to go, if 1nsane had a free roam then they would be very, very similar. Heck, maybe 1nsane would have been a little better too. Well not graphically but still. :)
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1nsane has a free roam mode! ;)

PROOF!



I prefer 1nsane. After playing the FUEL pc demo, I was really shocked. :yuck:
 
kikie
:confused: I don't get it.
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Doesn't matter then.

1nsane has a free roam mode! ;)

PROOF!

I prefer 1nsane. After playing the FUEL pc demo, I was really shocked. :yuck:
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Oh yeah! I forgot about that, I'm tempted to find the disk and start playing it again it was amazing how much fun I had on that game. I still think FUEL is good, but I don't think its up to the same standard that 1nsane was. FUEL has large environments which at time can feel boring, and a bit repetitive and doesn't give a large amount of variation. I tend to find myself looking for interesting parts of the area of the map I'm in. With 1nsane this wasn't the case, every map was interesting. Well in my opinion anyway.

I haven't played FUEL in a couple of days now, I recieved Little Big Planet from my rental service and have been playing that since I got it.
 
I'm glad I didn't spend the $7 on the rental for this. Downloaded the demo last night and didn't really enjoy it at all.
 
I also downloaded the demo after reading this thread and I was severly disappointed. Yes, the landscape is huge but the movement of the vehicles is terrible. The motorbike was particularly bad.

1nsane is far better than FUEL.
 
Touring Mars
I downloaded the demo the other day and got round to trying it out and... what a crushing disappointment. I absolutely hated it... it looks nasty, the handling was beyond amateur, and the gameplay was (in my very limited experience, to be fair) ludicrously wrong. No amount of smacking into trees (even trees that were apparently on fire) seemed to do anything whatsoever. I took part in a race, got bored and then got lost. And the music was dreadful! The whole demo just made me want to reach for the PS button, and I didn't even consider keeping the demo on the HDD, since it takes up over 1.1 GB of space! Codemasters seem to have a theme of using four letter words to name their games - I could suggest a couple more :sick:
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Dragonistic
I agree, and similarly everyone bar 1 person I know also agrees. The car practically drives itself, the races are to easy, the 'damage' is woeful, the music is terrible, the effects are terrible, the map is just to empty and uneventful, the 🤬 auto gearbox drives me insane, the list goes on.

The only good thing is the sheer scale of the map, but imo it's just to big, there's not enough substance per mile and I can see only few places worth coming back to. The map is useless on such a boring physics engine though, the simple fundamentals for a good driving game are missing, and the technical achievement with the map is just cancelled out and more.
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I downloaded the demo and I have to agree with these two posts, but at the same time it's very interesting reading the points by the people enjoying the game as there seems to be much more to it than I thought.

I was very much looking forward to this game because it doesn't matter that it's arcadey, unlike it mattered to me that GRID and DIRT were arcadey. However I was a little surprised even so at how basic the handling felt in the demo, as it gives no sense whatsoever at how challenging the terrain is... you just kind of get on with it and go where you want without much stopping you (including large trees, which didn't make me fall off the motorcycle in the demo, for some reason).

The link to that map of the environment that someone posted does intrigue me, if it really does take that long to get from one side of the map to the other. I always enjoy those sort of games - the GTA titles being a good example.

I'll definitely give the demo another try I think.
 
kikie
... and this is what it says about the Xbox360 wheel:

LINK

* No workaround needed. And with a Xbox 360™ Wireless Gaming Receiver for Windows®, you can use this wheel on your pc as well.
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But that is for X360 right? The link I gave above is how to change the button configurations for the G25 on PS3 (although I haven't tried it myself yet).
 
Yikes....how in this day and age can a car in a game be such a bad drive. Landscapes are great but if they are trying to sell this game to me with THAT demo, they have failed.
 
I think the only people that would like FUEL's physics are those who also like GRID's physics. I enjoy both.

I rented this game the other week, and while it didn't meet my initial expectations, I have to say it well exceeded the vibe I got from reviews (I don't know why I keep trusting professional critics on racing/driving games).

The physics are fast and fun; trying to keep a pavement-adept vehicle from sliding into the grass (which slows you down considerably) while swiftly drifting around gravel hairpins and switchbacks at 100+km/h is more exciting than many rally games I've played. But of course, unlike those games, if I want to sojourn through the grass to catch a shortcut, I have that option. Truly driving as the crow flies requires a more offroad-adept vehicle, and once you unlock one, the game becomes a simplistic but entertaining rockcrawler with, at your discretion, the occasional dive down a cliffside (hopefully without wrecking your vehicle). Taking a sturdy truck and going for the longest jump record is also a blast. That statistic and others scroll by during the game's lengthy loading screens.

Really, I spent more time in free roam, exploring, than doing the races. Some of the races offered some neat curves and sights, and it's fair enough that you had to complete some to advance and unlock more vehicles, but the AI were rather vacant, and made the races more of a chore than a thrill. Unfortunately, beyond the standard races, there isn't much else to do but explore.

The world is varied and impressively detailed, and climbing a mountain just because you saw it off in the distance is very satisfying, but apart from feeding my Wanderlust (seriously, hours and hours of driving and never in the same place twice), the other content just isn't that compelling. So I'm going to wait until the price drops a bit before buying.
 
Or better yet you can probably snag it used now for a pretty reasonable price.
 
I like the changing weather, but haven't encountered a tornado yet.
Currently at the the blue lake volcano, waiting for the rain to stop, so I can admire the view :)

edit: great, it's getting dark :(
 
Wolfe
I think the only people that would like FUEL's physics are those who also like GRID's physics. I enjoy both.
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I'm not sure. I've been looking forward to FUEL since it was announced (as you'll see from my posts earlier on in this thread) and I think I even commented that it'd be a game where arcadey and simplistic handling wouldn't matter, unlike it should matter in a racing or rally game. However, the physics in FUEL really do seem very basic - they're not even a patch on Motorstorm.

If FUEL had the handling of Motorstorm it would be brilliant. As it is, I find it fairly average, and I'll probably only buy it if I can find it very cheaply somewhere.
 
Does someone still play this game. It seems like not many people play this game online. hardly come across anyone in online free roam
 
DustDriver
Does someone still play this game. It seems like not many people play this game online. hardly come across anyone in online free roam
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Online in FUEL is pretty much dead sadly, and the huge map doesn't exactly help either. The only camps where you're guaranteed to find people is Offshore Shack and Tsunami Reef.

If you want to race or just free roam together online, add me and we can schedule a time to meet up (though not in a few weeks as I have exams). I also still need to get the online trophies, so if you haven't done them we can help each other as well :).
 

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