FITT Old Vs. New Hatchback Challenge

Which pair of cars is the best looking of the bunch?

  • Fiat 500 F '65 and 500 1.2 8V Lounge SS '08

    Votes: 14 23.0%

  • Ford Focus ST170 '03 and ST '13

    Votes: 12 19.7%

  • Honda Civic 1500 3 door 25i '83 and Civic Type R (EP) '04

    Votes: 6 9.8%

  • Honda CRX SiR '90 and CR-Z @ '10

    Votes: 5 8.2%

  • Honda Life Step Van '72 and Odyssey '03

    Votes: 3 4.9%

  • Mini Cooper 1.3i '98 and Cooper S '11

    Votes: 6 9.8%

  • Peugeot 206 S16 '99 and 207 GTi '07

    Votes: 5 8.2%

  • VW Golf I Gti '76 and Golf Gti '05

    Votes: 10 16.4%
  • Total voters
    61
Otaliema
So with @sinof1337 entering at the last minute, that means if we get all tunes, and run 10 laps per car, we will be looking at 380 laps at Côte d' Azure. average of say 2:00 a lap *factoring in things going horribly wrong every few laps pushing the cars hard* 12:40 of track time plus 3:10 build time *five minutes per car* almost 16 hours to test......yessh I think we might need a bit more time @Motor City Hami. I missing my morning drive time keeping on eye on my son, mystery bug bite wanted to make sure it wasn't serious. It's not so no need to panic.

3 hours a day drive time for me 6 week days to test I don't play on weekends. I think I might have to bribe my kids to let me play longer in the morning :lol:
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Yeah, dunno what I was thinking :lol:, even with 5 or 6 laps per car, I don't think I'd be close to getting this lot done (I normally get about 5 or 6 hours a week, and that's with kids distracting me:dopey:). I'll have to pick a few and give them a run.

Good luck guys, I'll be watching with interest 👍
 
Motor City Hami
@krenkme - Your Life Step Van does not list oil change. I know that your PS3 is packed away for the move. Are there any issues if we add oil change. Anyone know if this will mess with the transmission settings?
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I'll check today, prolly an hour and I'll have an answer I don't think it will as it doesn't add RPM just power and torque
 
Woodski_427
Yeah, dunno what I was thinking :lol:, even with 5 or 6 laps per car, I don't think I'd be close to getting this lot done (I normally get about 5 or 6 hours a week, and that's with kids distracting me:dopey:). I'll have to pick a few and give them a run.

Good luck guys, I'll be watching with interest 👍
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You could try your best and post reviews as you finish some tunes, and if you finish all the tunes just write a post that they are done so Hami can add them to the calculation. :)
 
Brewguy44
Is it to late to enter my tunes? I got so busy with @Thorin Cain & @TurnLeft with the release of our New Tune from our garage Elegance Automotive Guild . I just forgot until I got a alert about it a couple of days ago.

I could get them in before midnight tonight.

If it's to late, that's OK, I'll just get in on the next one. 👍
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Today is fine.
 
I might test yet, I'll have to see what time is available. I checked the math times up there, and I saved 4 hours already by having built, driven, and at least moderately tuned all the cars already. :)
 
3 cars down, man what a difference a tune makes, 2.691 spread already.

@Motor City Hami I ran one can with it's last gear set long by 0.012 this translated into a 1 km/h gain on the track. No change in handling when I corrected the gear, do you want me to rerun the car with the correct setting or leave as is. I think this 1 km/h will translate into maybe 0.010 seconds over the course of the entire track if that. Not sure if it will lose or gain as the shorter gears get up to speed faster but has less top end.
 
Otaliema
3 cars down, man what a difference a tune makes, 2.691 spread already.

@Motor City Hami I ran one can with it's last gear set long by 0.012 this translated into a 1 km/h gain on the track. No change in handling when I corrected the gear, do you want me to rerun the car with the correct setting or leave as is. I think this 1 km/h will translate into maybe 0.010 seconds over the course of the entire track if that. Not sure if it will lose or gain as the shorter gears get up to speed faster but has less top end.
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I feel if you think about this enough, you can answer it for yourself. 👍
 
CSLACR
I feel if you think about this enough, you can answer it for yourself. 👍
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Yeah I know it wasn't as posted, the main reason I didn't just do it as its. Not a handling change just a very minor change to the speed of the car. Secondary reason my kids got up lol
 
Otaliema
Yeah I know it wasn't as posted, the main reason I didn't just do it as its. Not a handling change just a very minor change to the speed of the car. Secondary reason my kids got up lol
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I hear your point entirely, and it likely makes no effective difference at all, it's just a thing.
 
Otaliema
3 cars down, man what a difference a tune makes, 2.691 spread already.

@Motor City Hami I ran one can with it's last gear set long by 0.012 this translated into a 1 km/h gain on the track. No change in handling when I corrected the gear, do you want me to rerun the car with the correct setting or leave as is. I think this 1 km/h will translate into maybe 0.010 seconds over the course of the entire track if that. Not sure if it will lose or gain as the shorter gears get up to speed faster but has less top end.
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If I were in your shoes I would rerun the car for two or three laps and see if I hit a similar time. It would just take some of the question out of it.
 
Motor City Hami
If I were in your shoes I would rerun the car for two or three laps and see if I hit a similar time. It would just take some of the question out of it.
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I have but didn't get a clean lap in, I'll run it on Tuesday again as my warm up car so it will get ten laps again.
 
CSLACR
TBH, 10 more laps might be unfair for it. You don't want to take 2 tenths off when .034 is the most likely possible, you know?
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I know. I need a warm up car and I need to rerun this one so its a good match. It was going to get another ten anyways I always rerun first two or three cars when I don't a track super good.
 
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