FLMS Online Racing Championship: Holiday Policy-Dates Announced

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What Time Should We Race

  • Saturday: Morning

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Saturday: Afternoon

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Saturday: Evening

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • Sunday: Morning

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Sunday: Afternoon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sunday: Evening

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • Monday: Morning

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Monday: Afternoon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Monday: Evening

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Tuesday: Morning

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tuesday: Afternoon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tuesday: Evening

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wednesday: Morning

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wednesday: Afternoon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wednesday: Evening

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thursday: Morning

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thursday: Afternoon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thursday: Evening

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Friday: Morning

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Friday: Afternoon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Friday: Evening

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
Well we can make any prototype LMP1 by boosting its numbers so that's not really a problem.

I like the qualifying idea you have crispy 👍 btw.

Has anyone gone out and tried to compare laptimes between the cars? We should come up with a goal number of cars then start getting a rough list together.

If there's 8 cars per class and, ideally, two rooms makes that 16 total participants possibly on a race weekend per class. If we want to incorporate teams of two drivers per car than that makes us need 8 cars to make a full field.

then 8 cars tested together and balanced with full performance parity should do the trick. But it's gonna be tough.

So we'll need to get it together and decide on the 8 GTE cars and 8 LMP1 cars we want.

btw there's no GT1 in ILMC anymore, just GTE, which is a bit closer to GT2 specs. New LMP1 specs are slower as well. But I'm not sure whether you're trying to go ALMS or ILMC.
 
I'm going to go contact Ruadi and eek to see if we can use their replica liveries as official cars for this series. After that, we will undergo testing and try and produce solid, and even laptimes. Then set the PI limit to the highest PI in each group, that way people can't upgrade their cars, but they can create a setup for them.
 
So if it's just GT1 and LMP1 now, I'd like to race in the #009 AMR DBR9 (gulf livery I think). 👍

I think 1 1/2 hours would be a good length for the Le Mans race.

Hey Rhys, me and my cousin will be racing the two factory AMR DBR9's from the 2005 season. I want to ask you if you can pick a different livery for the 009 car since both our cars will be the 007 and the 009. Thanks...
 
How does everyone feel on the track list and points list so far? Does it need any revisions, or do you guys like it as it is? I just want to know before we finalize everything, because after that, there will be only minor updates!

I need to make some fancy graphics to give some eyecandy to the OP. Any idea's over what we should have?
 
I'll gladly join in the F458, its my new favoritest car in the worldz

But I voted Sunday evening GMT time, having a gf means she ain't too happy about loosing our Saturday nights like I did when I was in a GT league
 
It doesn't. U.S. times are behind UK. ie: When it's evening here (UK), it's morning in the States.

I know that, what on earth made me ask and assume the completely wrong answer?:grumpy::scared:
 
Hmm, I'm thinking about amending the time so it will fit UK time. Would 3:00, or 4:00 PM work for you guys oversees? (Your Time of course)
 
It wouldn't be so perfect for me because all England's soccer games begin at 3 and go until 4.45 on a Saturday. I would prefer 1 or 2 PM.
 
Hmm, I'm thinking about amending the time so it will fit UK time. Would 3:00, or 4:00 PM work for you guys oversees? (Your Time of course)
It will be hard to find a time window matches for everyone. For me it is a bit early, I ussually play at night for example (8pm-12pm UK time). But if possible I will try to participate.
 
I've tried series with 4 classes of 4 before and it's just not fun. Anyone that's tried has always reverted to a 2 class system which is much more fun.
 
Why is there a F458 GT on the roster? i thought it was GT1 and LMP1 only...
 
We can bring that car up to GT1 spec in order to include it, easy.

Also, have we come to a decision on whether this is going to be a series based on ALMS or ILMC? As I think that's where of the confusion's coming from with some people and the classes. GT1 in ILMC's effectively been wiped out and replaced with the new GTE or "Grand Touring Endurance" class which is closer to GT2 specs. Making team Corvette's win all the more impressive at Le Mans since they were essentially using a spec'ed down car.
 
I feel like you guys are backing out before giving this a fair chance. Realize that there's only 16 cars per grid and that we're free to interpret car homologation as we see fit within Forza.

If we had all the right variables I'm sure crispy would have an easy time just putting this together but in order to make it work we all have to bear with the liberties taken in the name of fun, not simulation.

If you're in Forza so you can do multi-class racing with 4 different classes I'm sorry to inform you that while it's a novel idea, it's not worth pursuing and there's plenty of other games that can accommodate you.

At least give a specific reason why you're backing out beyond just not liking the change.
 
Well if it's going to be a realistic ILMC, ALMS or LMS Endurance Series then the 458 can't be aloud. It's a GT2 car in real life and in the game. It won't be competitive in the GT1 class...
 
At least give a specific reason why you're backing out beyond just not liking the change.
It's not the lack of classes for me, it's which ones got picked. I have zero interest in running a GT1 car, and the LMP1 just doesn't appeal to me as much as the LMP2 class did.
I understand the switch from 4 classes down to two, it's just the two that got chosen don't really hold interest for me.

Side note: I think that 3 classes is very doable. I've been running some races with just me and 11 AI cars in 3 classes and it's good fun. I'd recommend LMP1, LMPC with the FLM and GTE with GT2 cars. Anyone else think this is doable?
 
Well, again, here's the thing: with the new ILMC specs, LMP1 cars have been restricted down to pretty much old LMP2 specs in terms of power. I'm not talking about running GT1 as that class of GT car is pretty much dead now.

A modern Le Mans championship only runs GTE cars which are more in line with GT2 specs of old.

And I'm done with true realism in Forza or GT. It gets in the way far too much when trying to run a series within the confines of a console. If you want a realistic Le Mans series, you're going to have to go rFactor. And no, iRacing isn't the ideal platform either. No LMP1, no La Sarthe, only GT1 cars.

Anyway, yeah, work with me guys, remember it would be your championship, not the FIA's

Also,
I wasn't talking about bringing the 458 up to GT1 at all.
 
Well, again, here's the thing: with the new ILMC specs, LMP1 cars have been restricted down to pretty much old LMP2 specs in terms of power. I'm not talking about running GT1 as that class of GT car is pretty much dead now.

A modern Le Mans championship only runs GTE cars which are more in line with GT2 specs of old.
Ok, wait; what? I think I need some serious clarification here lol.
According to this post:
I think that is actually a better idea, since most people seem to have interest in the GT1 and LMP1 classes only. I'm going to send a PM over to everyone who chose a GT2 or LMP2 car.
This series is being cut down to only LMP1 and GT1 due to that being the prevailing interest. I agree that GT1 is dead and that's why it holds no interest for me. If this is going to run GTE type cars (F458, GT, M3GT2, etc.) then I'm still interested, but if as it says it will be GT1 cars (MC12, C6.R, etc.) then there's nothing here for me. A little clarification please?


And I'm done with true realism in Forza or GT. It gets in the way far too much when trying to run a series within the confines of a console. If you want a realistic Le Mans series, you're going to have to go rFactor. And no, iRacing isn't the ideal platform either. No LMP1, no La Sarthe, only GT1 cars.

Anyway, yeah, work with me guys, remember it would be your championship, not the FIA's
I agree that realism is not so important as 'spirit of the competition' so to speak, but I'm not sure what you're meaning here. I was assuming that the GT class would be a max PI restriction to the top of whatever class the cars start out in (if GTE the R3-800) and allow the drivers to use the (very good) in-game upgrades to max their car in its class. Similarly, LMP1 would simply be a max PI of R1-998 and allow all the cars to be de-restricted up to this limit. As far as I know, all race cars can now hit either the top of their class or 1 PI below it with the new upgrades, so this would actually give better parity then running them all stock. The only thing I was envisioning as a 'stock' class was LMPC that would use the FLM and have the "Allow Upgrades" option set to "No" so that all the FLMs are the same. This all making sense?
Basically, this would allow any R3 race car to run in the GT class and any R1 LMP car to run in LMP1, with LMPC being a spec class, which is close enough to real life that it satisfied me.

Anyways, that's just my $0.02
It looks like the race times might not be lining up with what I would need anyways, so it might all be irrelevant in the end.
 
Ah, sorry for confusing everyone! I'll put down GTE instead. We should work on having cars fit specs for the Forza GT2 class. Then we can try and see which upgrades will perform the best.
 
As far as upgrades, I've done some fairly extensive testing, and as I said it seems like basically every GT style race car that starts in R3 class has an upgrade path that will allow it to hit 800 or 799. This results in all the cars being fairly competitive too since they're all basically the same PI. Granted, each car still has its strengths and weaknesses, but they run lap times within about 0.2-0.5 seconds at most tracks.

This is going off of the M3GT2, the Ford GT, and the F458 by the way. These cars are all pretty different, so it's a reasonable cross-section.
 
So R1 and R2 class cars or R1 and R3 class cars? Essentially makes it LMP1 (R1) and GT1 (R2) or GTE (R3).

Either way, count me in.

GT: N/A
Class: LMP1
Car: NRG Racing Lola Aston Martin #59
 
I'd like to see lower end R1 for the LMP1 and R3 for GTE yeah, sounds about right.

Glad to see you finally signed on FP Mitch. Should be awesome to run with you.
 
I'm not expecting to beat the 908's in this series if the people that pick them are quick....

And Wardez, don't think we ever ended up racing together over at GTP?
 
The Peugeots will be brought down to par.

And nope, never even seen you in a room.

Cheers
 
So, when will we get a full list of allowed cars, tunings, etc? :)

BTW, is this idea of series still alive?
 
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