For those with full time jobs.

[Vasco]

Hey i'm too young to get a job but i want to start my work career as early as possible In Australia the unions have quite a lot of power

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by boombexus


I would like to go back to a comment that neon_duke made. In his above statement he mentions his morale level being low. I would like to hear all of your opinions on what in the work place effects morale. What is it that your employer does that makes morale high or makes it low. How do you effect your own personal morale levels?
Try not to gravitate too much around wages, although it is an important aspect.

Another point of intrest that neon_duke made that I would like to touch on also is, motivation. What motivates you to do a good job? How are you effectively motivated? Is it, yelling and screaming from your boss that motivates you? (i.e. FEAR) or is it something else?

Man - that's a good question. I'm actually the happiest I've ever been in my current position. I think part of it is that I'm treated like an adult there - sure, I spend a fair bit of time on web (i.e. here!), but I get my job done to a very high standard, and contribute keenly to the team. I'm genuinely not concerned about the money I'm on there - it's actually quite good, but I'm not that concerned about it.

In terms of what motivates me about doing a good job - gee, maybe it's a personal pride thing, I guess. It's probably trying to avoid getting yelled at - trying to lead a frictionless existence.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Nice one boom!

Money used to be a huge factor for me, mainly because I was being paid about £5,000 less than a new-start at the same level as me. I'm still being paid quite a lot less than I should be, but I got a pay rise that restored parity, so I'm a lot happier now.

My morale is affected a lot by those above me. I'm not the sort of person that needs to be managed, I'm quite capable of self-motivation and getting my work done. What I need from management is support of my initiatives to get the job done. I also need some sort of strategic direction - a lot of what I do is about fulfilling business needs whilst still maintaining standards, so I need to know what ideas the company has on its strategy in order that the solution I build today is not hugely out of place tomorrow. This is a real problem in my company at the moment, since nobody really seems to have a clue what's going on, and every couple of months, there's a sea-change in strategy, and we're right back at the beginning again. This has been going on for 2 years now, and I'm on the verge of leaving...

As regards motivation, I'm very much the sort of person that you can motivate by saying "This is what I want done, this is when I need it done by, and this is your budget, now away you go and get on with it". I don't need to be micro-managed, and it really annoys me when someone tries to do it - they always end up in a war with me, and I always win. I must be quite a difficult employee for a lot of managers, because I'm not obviously doing any work. However, I always get all the work done on time and on budget. Without blowing my own trumpet, I'm very good at handling my workload.

I motivate myself by a relentless desire for self-improvement. I just want to be better than I am at the moment. One of the major areas that I'm working on in self-improvement is my own professionalism. I'm trying to be more thorough, more open-minded, more able to communicate complex IT issues to the business, and more able to apply business pressures to the solutions that I'm creating. I like owning meetings, and that drives me forward. As Abraham Lincoln (I think - it was an ex-President, anyway) said "In preparing for meetings, I spend 10% of the time thinking about what I'm going to say, and 90% of the time thinking about what the other person is going to say". I'm my own harshest critic, and I just want to do a great job. My manager realises this, and lets me get on with it, which is great.

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by boombexus
Would any of you consider there to be a different kind of work ethic between the "blue collar/laborers" versus the "white collar/9 to 5 desk jockies"?

No, I don't think it separates that way at all. I don't know which one you are considering to have a better work ethic... but just like the age bracket, there are plenty of examples of slackers in each tier of the workforce. My job doesn't have such a broad spread of job types, but my wife works for a big biochemical company.

There are lab techs that do not want to move one test tube more than they are required to, and can't be bothered to take proper measurements; and there are Ph.D.s that will push as much of their work off onto underlings as they possibly can. My wife is in the middle tier, and she does twice as much work, more quickly and more accurately than any of the other people in her section. Yet others are promoted for doing less, and not as well. But I guess that issue is a separate subject...

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by neon_duke

I don't know which one you are considering to have a better work ethic...

neon_duke, I am not trying to attack anyone or consider anyone better than anyone else by asking these questions. I hope that you don't think that I am.

I was just asking for opinions. I am curious to find out what goes on in the "white collar" world. Do they experience the same issues and difficulties as the "labourer's?" Since a 'white collar' job doesn't require much physical labor, what would 'tire out' or cause unproductivity in a white collar worker?

My wife is in the middle tier, and she does twice as much work, more quickly and more accurately than any of the other people in her section. Yet others are promoted for doing less, and not as well. But I guess that issue is a separate subject...

Yet another issue that neon_duke has brought up that I would like to hit on. Thanks for the feedback neon_duke!

While looking at the people that are getting promoted ahead of you (you, not meaning neon_duke) that don't seem to perform as well as you, what makes these people get ahead? Is it that they are selling themselfs better? (kissing the right ass, so to speak) or is it something else?

 

[boombexus]

If at any point there is something that was touched on earlier in the thread that you feel you would like to point out again, please feel free to do so.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by boombexus


Hey M5. Could you give me an example of where a union has been so united?

Yeah - anytime they go on strike.

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by M5Power


Yeah - anytime they go on strike.

 

[Duke]

Boom:

I didn't really think you were attacking any particular group, I was just unsure what premise you were coming from.

I'll tell you what has 'tired out' this white collar worker. About 3 years ago, I was working for a small firm of about 10-15 people. I was the #3 guy, behind the two partners. I had no ownership of the company, but I was the pinch-hitter for when the bosses weren't in the office (frequently) and I managed one or two of my own projects, as well as being "ask the old guy" support for the other project managers, and doing peer-review of their work. I enjoyed the job and it had a fair amount of responsibility, without the added worry of being a partner.

Then they moved the company. For various reasons, I didn't go with them.

In my new job, it's very different. I haven't been given a project really worth mentioning yet. I've mostly been picking up pieces of other people's projects; doing things people with half my experience could do. I'm used to managing multi-million-dollar building designs, and I am not much more than a draftsman. I am paid at the rate of someone with 10-12 years' experience, yet I'm doing a job that someone with 3-5 years' could handle - so anything I work on is not very profitable to the company, since they are paying for my abilities but not using them.

In addition, I have to do alot of stupid graphics work (which I enjoy, to some extent) that really fills up my time yet is not considered part of my actual duties. There is a fairly heavy office-politics machine in place, as well, and due to circumstances, people in my group are at a distinct disadvantage in it.
It all adds up to three years of stagnation and sub-par output. If I had uprooted my fmaily and moved with the other job, I'd be an associate by now, with a team of people working with/for me. Instead I'm acting like a drone and not using half my capacity - and worse, I have no desire to do better.

I'll get into the promotion/politics angle later. I hope this helps you! An interesting topic indeed.

 

[boombexus]

What seems to shatter my morale the most, is a lack of recognition for a job well done.

Me and my Chef, have made such an amazing improvement to the quality of product and the general way the operation is run, the likes of which the property has never seen. However, we are berated on the smallest and most trivial of subjects by our boss, the Food and Beverage Director. This does in a odd sort of way, provide my greatest motivation. I will not let this person belittle our acheivements and I will double my efforts so that he will have nothing negative to say in the future.

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by neon_duke

I'll get into the promotion/politics angle later.

This is something that I would really like to discuss.

Office politics and there link to promotions.

Are you willing to play the game to get ahead?
Is it nesecarry to play the game to get ahead?
Would you consider those that play the game of politics more likely to get ahead quicker?
For those who don't play the game and rely on their hard work to get ahead, will they be as succesfull as someone who plays politics.

 

[Kelly]

Sorry Boom, I don't have a job as such nor have I properly read this thread, but I do feel 'employed'

I don't have a boss to keep happy, but I do have a daily responsibility to my kids who in effect are my 'boss'

If I decide not to do the laundry there's no clean clothes .

If I decide I can't be bothered making a meal they will go hungry.

They are my management so to speak, getting up every morning and just being a mom can be just as stressfull as a days work I don't get paid a wage but what I do get is a sense of pride, my children are very bright and intelligent, I expect them to do well in the world as adults. They are also very good a giving out the orders.

I also have my 'wife' duties to consider also....(thats another story ) well my point is even though I don't work for a company or collect a wage each week I do have an idea of how life is in the employment world and it doesn't look too pretty.

I'm here to keep everyone happy thats about it really without me they would all starve!! 😈

Overworked and underpaid!

Anyway not sure if I have made any sense or even made a point I just got carried away there

 

[Kelly]

That just didn't make sense . Hope I haven't killed your thread Boom

 

[boombexus]

Don't be sorry Lotus.

I think that you have one of the most important job's in the world. Being a mother and a wife is no easy task.
Even though you don't receive a pay check, you still go through many of the topics discussed here in this thread. I find the paralells amazing!
I'm sure you don't always get a pat on the back for a job well done. A meal prepared for the family and not even a 'thank you' can be more painful than anything one could ever experience in the workplace. You don't get 'days off'. You still have to perform even when your sick or tired.
I can't even imagine because I don't have kids, but I hear you loud and clear as to how Mothers can be "Overworked and underpaid."

I feel the need to call my mother now!

 

[Duke]

On the "politics" question:

At the job where I described being happy, there was very little in the way of politics. There were some, mostly centering around a little rivalry between the two offices (each of which had a partner-in-charge). For the most part, I was given a project (some good, some bad), a team to lead, and a certain amount of time in which to perform. It was fine.

In the job after that, there were not too many politics. However, I was low on the seniority list. There was not as good and organization to the whole office. Due to the nature of the work in that office, there were not as many individual projects to go around, so I lost some responsibility that way.

That second company was bought out by a much larger company. Here politics run rampant. Our company is a division of the larger company; there is a major boss that manages the whole site, and under him are sub-bosses for each division (my old company owner is now the manager of our group). Beacuse we are new, the other managers all have the "old boy" way of doing things and the "old boy" way of distributing the work.

I am a project manager functioning almost as a draftsman. Yet there are PMs on the other side of the invisible fence who are doing a lousy job because they have too many projects to manage. I am handed the work to do, but because of formal (and also hidden) organizational practices, I am not allowed to be considered project manager for any project that does not originate within OUR group.

I don't play golf. I am not a member of the "lunch club". In fact I thought about going to the main manager and asking where I needed to apply to become an employee of the real comapny, but he either turns a blind eye to the problem, or is part of it. So I'm left with nothing but my own self-discipline in order to motivate me.

I make as much money as I earn. That's not the real issue. Mostly it is a feeling that no matter what I do, advancement opportunity is stacked against me.

My wife has been far and away the most productive member of her group for more almost 10 years. Yet her promotions have been very slow. Mostly I believe that is because they cannot give her up because she is crucial to the operation. There is one manager in particular who is a total b!tch, and who is determined to keep her there, to be used as a tool when needed (even though she does not offer my wife any respect for a job well done). For reasons unknown, people who lack some of the skills that are vital to the job have been promoted to the same level as my wife. Some of that is attributable to "buddy" politics on their part, some attributable to politics against my wife.

She is very good at her job, and not terribly tolerant of those who are not good at theirs. Despite being the correct view, it is obviously not very politically advantageous. For instance, she will put a report on the desk of one of the PhD's for whom she's working. There it will sit for 10 days with no attention. Then the PhD will charge into her office the day before the report is due, with a hundred changes etc. and his work still not complete. In the meantime, my wife (who is a very efficient scheduler) has moved on with her workflow, and is not about to screw that all up by dropping everything to accomodate the panic of someone who cannot even manage their own time and workload.

It's exactly how she should behave, but it dosen't earn her many points. Most of her direct managers have been very weak, as well, and not willing to stand up to the other, higher people who want to live their professional lives by doing as little as possible and dumping as much as they can on people who do get the job done.

On Vat_man's subject, I cannot say that I am a union supporter. I agree that they serve a function in providing employment law information, etc. But I think unions have abused their position more than management has.

Someone said that owners take advantage of employees by offering low wages - then the workers should look elsewhere, if they can. I have yet to see how offering a man a job at a low wage is WORSE than not offering him a job at all. If a person is worth employing, they will be employed at the highest salary their market will bear. It's just like a product - the law of supply and demand holds just as true for labor as it does for materials.

The thing I've never understood about unions is this - where do they gain the power of force? You are free to unionize as much as you can in order to negotiate with me as an owner. Yet were does that give you the right to require me to deal with your union? If I can find enough competent non-union labor to suit my needs, then your union SHOULD BE powerless "against" me. If I cannot find enough merit workers, ONLY THEN does the union have power - by controlling a commodity I need. THEN the exchange becomes a moral one, with each party offering something the other needs. There is no force involved, only a good, true, capitalist negotiation. Yet that is not the way it works in many many cases. Somehow unions have acquired the power of legal force. Then the deal is not moral, but becomes an extortion on their part - by demanding that I hire union workers.

 

[Der Alta]

where to start on this one...

I like Neon_Duke deal with the building industry. Yes, i do sit behind a desk. I, however, spend most of my time on the phone, and dealing with clients.

Sick Days

In the nearly two years that I have been with this company, I have taken one sick day. It was to recover from surgery. I was operated on Thursday afternoon, took Friday off, and was back at work on Monday.

The thing about sick days, is that work that I should have done on a sick/personal day is now piled up and waiting for me the next day. We had a person at our firm who called the Ambulance to take them to the emergency room from the office. The doctor told him he was overly stressed and needed to take time off from work. Surprise, we're all stressed out. Learn to deal with it.

Someone has to be knocking on death’s door for me to miss work. With the amount of drugs available out there, you can get yourself ship shape in no time. Over the counter drugs, that is.

Work Schedule

My weeks currently range 45-55 hours a week. I do take the laptop home and do other work on a regular occasion. Ever have a night where you couldn't sleep? I get up turn on the laptop, and post a few hours typing up notes for the day. I am at the office at 6:30am and am usually here until 6:00pm. Boston Commute…

I get compensated very nicely, and there are other perks to the job. I’m a workaholic, my brothers are, my uncles are my father and grandfathers are. My wife pointed this out to me. I never noticed it, because it was a way of life.

I’ve always had that attitude. From my second job mowing lawns, I knew what a work ethic was. After leaving my first lawn mowing job, my father taught me what work ethic was. That is a story for later on.

Younger people – work ethics??

My wife is a manager at a 20,000sf store. She usually ends up closing most nights. There was in fact one day where she called her boss (who does the scheduling) and told him that if it was a sunny day, these two people would call in sick the following day. She requested to have the schedule reworked. The boss laughed and said they show. My wife closed the store by herself because the other two didn’t show. She has been documenting examples like this for the last two months so that when she leaves, she can drop a book on her boss's desk as reasons why she’s leaving.

Take the local deli that I frequent for lunch. There are three older ladies, a young kid, and a young girl. There is also one eastern European immigrant working there. The boss commented one day that the Immigrant was hung over beyond belief, but was on-time, and attentive. He suffered through the day, but never griped, or quit working. Gave 100% even if he looked like 50%. The two young ones, I’ll never order a sandwich from. Worst service I’ve had there. The young girl couldn’t put together a sandwich correctly to save her life. But, she’s got a great set of HooHaa’s so it’s tempting to have her put the bread together.

Morale

Morale comes from above. If you’re higher up the ladder, you try to boost it for the people below you. If you’re low on the ladder, it should come from above. In Neon_Duke’s situation, He should be higher up the ladder, and office politics are the problem. (that’s covered in the next chapter.)

At one firm I worked for the owner of the firm was a conceited, egotistical A$$HOLE. Prime example: He asked me one Monday morning

“So what did you do this weekend?”

“I worked 22 hours this weekend to meet the deadline for the Saratoga Project…What about you?”

“I took my wife and son, in the company plane, to Maine for a weekend of Skiing.”

I bit off the end of my tongue to stop me from saying something that would get me fired. Second example: You’re boss buys his third new Lincoln Navigator in two years, and has it delivered with the newly installed VCR, so that his kid can watch movies while they drive to Martha’s vineyard, Yet…He says that he can’t afford to give you a raise, because the company is in financial trouble.

The new company I work for, the Boss owns a Range Rover. He bought it used, with 40,000 miles on it. I’ve seen him and his wife at work at midnight when I drove home from the bar. That’s Dedication. The office “end of the year” party (can’t call it a Christmas …(*&%$ PC people) is booked at a resort in Stowe, Vermont. The office rents a Coach, stocks up the bar, and buses us there and back. Rooms available at a discounted rate. That’s gratitude.

Office Politics

One of the worst games I’ve ever had to play. Yet I still come back to it. In a good office, it’s not how loud you gripe, it’s who you gripe to. In my office, If I want to politely bend the bosses ear, I head to the accounting department. The bosses wife is a sweet lady, very much the mothering type. A pleasant conversation with her, and she relays it to the boss. No big hoopla about writing memo’s and enforcing policy, just an amicable conversation between two people.

The previous office, everybody had their own little room (pronounced romb, like “tomb”), and rarely talked to each other. The owner thought everybody would be more productive. This was the same company that had a turnover rate nearing 75% a year. The only people that didn’t leave were the ones who had been there too long.

All things considered, I give back to the company 110% of what they give me.

But there is no panacea in this world. I’ve started to consider that the only way to get a raise is to leave the company.

And Yes, Lotus350 has one of the toughest jobs in the world. Complete with the least amount of compensation. I know, look at how I treated my mother. I couldn’t send her enough flowers, or give her a nice enough house. Child rearing is tough when done correctly. I’ve seen it done poorly, too many times. I’d place my jacket in a puddle for any woman who can do that job.

I know I couldn’t. That’s why I was out sick for a day.

AO

 

[boombexus]

Back from an extended slumber.


I would like to hear some examples of times when you have had a conflict with one of your bosses and how you resolved it.

Wether it be a conflict in opinion or just a mutual dislike for eachother.

My recent situation pertains to this and I would like to get some feed back on how others have handled their situations.

 

[Pupik]

I'm on time about 98% of the time, and I make a rule to never leave early without making an arrangement well in advance. This way, you can better convince the boss you're deserving of a break here and there when you have an emergency, a "wellness day" (one per year), or just plain feel sick.

As per sick days, I'm usually so darn sick the day before, that it's patently obvious I'm too sick to come in if I call. Never more than one or twice a year, except the time I had chicken pox over 12 years ago.

Hangovers...tough ****, go to work! I never missed a day due to any partying I did the night before. If you have too much fun, you've got to pay the price.

That said, I'm bad with taking strict 30-minute or 1-hour breaks. An extra 5 minutes, please!

I've never had too much confrontation with upper management. One day, when I worked in a superkmarket, the new store manager demanded we park in theback of the store. Well, about a year previously, my car and two bosses' cars were broken into.

I stood up, and flatly said; "Sure, I'll park back there, but you'll have to pay my increased insurance premium, any lost items, and any repairs done to whomever's car gets smashed!"...it was the one and only time I stuck my neck out, and didn't care of the consequences. It marked me out, with my new boss, unfortunately, but nobody liked him anyhow.

 

[RVDNuT374]

Originally posted by Der Alta
But, she’s got a great set of HooHaa’s so it’s tempting to have her put the bread together.

AO

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by boombexus
Back from an extended slumber.


I would like to hear some examples of times when you have had a conflict with one of your bosses and how you resolved it.

Wether it be a conflict in opinion or just a mutual dislike for eachother.

My recent situation pertains to this and I would like to get some feed back on how others have handled their situations.

For me it rarely happens. This is because my job is part technical and part strategic. I've just changed company (same job, was outsourced), and so I have to learn about the new company's working practices. Fortunately I'm getting along fine with everyone.

IN the past I had a real problem with my 2nd-level manager. He was a seagull manager and he had no real idea what was going on. He had no strategy and wasn't talking to the business at all about what it wanted.

My tactic for that was to pull in my hard (i.e. technical) skills. By making myself appear to be invulnerable on the technical side, it made me stronger in the soft-skills side. Basically I was able to justify my actions based upon my technical abilities. I suppose it was a simple case of picking on my 2nd-level manager's principal weakness - his lack of actual job skill.

I'm also extremely sly-ly persuasive. I can write 2-page memos that can be summarised to two words (the second of which is 'off'), but they always stop short of that final summary. I can take a confused boss-mind and make that decision for him.

Of course, it all depends upon:
a) Being great at the skilled side of your job, and
b) Your manager being at least partially logical.

 

[Max Powers]

Well now I have a full-time job this summer, so I figured I'd reply to this with my opinion.

When I go to work in the morning (I cook for a local resturant) I come clean, awake, on time, and ready to work. I'd like to say that I can take pride in doing a good job while I'm there, too. I work my ass off for 8 hours, and get the feeling on pay day that I earned this. Unfortunetely since I don't exactly work a high skilled job, there are people alongside of me who don't exactly share that attitude. They'll make a mess, not clean up after themselves, go back to take a cigarette break when there are things to be done, and at the end of the week, they end up getting paid just like me. I'm still only 17, but I'm not going to just complain about it not being fair. I guess it's a pride thing for me. I could get away with doing a half assed job, doing less work, and getting paid just as much...but I don't because I wouldn't be able to look at myself at the end of the day and say "congratulations, you did a crappy job and still got paid. The way I look at it is this, if I'm going to go to work, I may as well go in and actually work for my 8 hours, if I didn't work hard for that day, I feel that I'd be better off just not coming in at all.

 

[CDailey]

I voted for "I am not old enough to have a job, but when I do get one, I will try my absolute best.".

 

[Gil]

To add to the "union" talk of earlier.
We have gone and stuck our necks out not because of the money (it is getting better though), not because of poor equipment, or lack of equipment, But mostly because of poor benefits, and mostly due to patient safety.
I'm not "out front" involved with the union. But with my former background in Public Relations, I have helped with some "presentation" issues.
The biggest problem at my hospital has been the implementation of "Project Delta". With this project, the management had "efficiency experts" (that know NOTHING about nursing) walk around the facilities, and recommend changes that would save them money. (Mind you, our CEO was making over $2mill a year.) They came up with the nifty idea of cutting nursing and ancillary staff. I guess pay cuts for the upper management were not an option.
When I first started at this hospital, the Rehab staff for 12 patients was 2 Nurses, 2 nurse aides (there were two teams with 6 patients per team), and 1 Charge Nurse who helped out as needed with things like admits, discharges and making rounds with the docs, etc.
Now, with the same 12 patients, (except they are more debilitated, because of the closing of the Inpatient portion of the Rehab Institute (which was affiliated with our hospital) My staff consists of two nurses, and one aide. The Charge nurse (me) has a full load of patients, and still helps out as needed wth things like admits, and discharges, and dealing with our Rehab doc, who is just a bit nuts.
They expect the same amount of work with 40% LESS staff, and EVERY Rehab patient is considered to be a 'fall risk' and is not permitted to walk anywhere without someone at their side.
I have worked up a good sweat before 0830 and I usually don't dry before 1400. I, personally don't give a tinker's damn about more money. It would be nice, but I really want to have more warm bodies, that have some experience, or horse sense on my rehab unit.
Genrally, I'm not a big union type guy. But in this case, management has said they will consider our input. At this time they have considered our input, and summarily blown us off, While lining their pockets (our former CEO finally stopped driving his Rolls, in favor of an Outsized Ford SUV, because "it looked like he was indeed making too much money" at the expense of patient safety.) Only a unification of all the Nurses in Midwest division of HCA (nee Health Midwest) has any hope (however slim) of getting thru to the management.
Sorry about the length, but I could go on and on....

 

[boombexus]

@SublimeDood I enjoy hearing the fact that you get self gratification from doing a good job and that you do a good job because you want to.
Just remember, those around you that are "half assing" their duties are not going to get much further in there careers. You on the other hand, if you continue with the positive work ethic that you seem to have, will most certainly go places! 👍

Keep at it man, it will pay off.

@Gil, I can see how a union would benifit your situation in regards to added benefits, but if your work became unionized is it worth the price of possibly forcing the hiring of staff that might not be so qualified to do the job? Has there been any talk amongst the other employees about unionizing?
I know on my end at least, I would rather run with less staff, knowing the staff that I do have is qualified to their jobs correctly, where instead of being forced to hire the not so qualified bodies that I now contractually need under a union, where I now end up wasting more time watching over them.

Actually just recently here at my work place a few of my associates went to the Human Resources Department to complain of what they consider unfair treatment by some of the other kitchen management.
We are now being extremely careful, with these certain individuals as the 'thought' of a union is downright frightening.

 

[Gil]

Actually, we are thinking of bring ALL the ancillary staff on board.
As for hiring unqualified or underqualified people, Half of the time, since I work 12-hours and my aides work 8-hours. I get someone from the float pool, or from an agency.
I usually end up with someone who has never been on Rehab, and has to be fully oriented and watched over for the remainder of the shift. (While I'm already tired).

 

[Squid]

I am not old enough to have a job, but when I do get one, I will try my absolute best.

For now, im goin to go apply for a job in a few days

 

[Cano]

this thread is very good.as for the job, well, there are certain extents of my "work" that I didnt like... first, it wasnt a job, I was like "helping" my mother in Las Camapanas, the family's restaurant, so I didnt get paid. it was pretty ****ty from day one, and I had none wishes to do a good job... not even to do any job but as time pased I found it to be quite gratifying, even if there was no money in it. well, that is over now, and now I have to look for a real job... and I REALLY need it to do a lot of things... I want my life ^-^ and be independant... Its WAY harder than it looks and I might find it out in a very hard way, but I need it to be as soon as possible. I am going to strart to look for a job like rite now... I just didnt have the time to do it when I was in Las Campanas. now, I have plenty of free time, so that must do. the hard part is that I dont have any experience, and disemployment has been a growing problem here in Mexico. I really hope I can get a damned job, because I need it more than you might think... but, yeah... when Im on my work, whatever it is... I will always try to do my best. If being in las Campanas was gratifying, I may say that doing what you like/want and getting paid for it should be really cool then.

Cano