Ford GT is the worst car in this game

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Upgrade to tier 3 and it would be done. Execlude the weight and the engine tuning.

It's easier to win it like that. If you don't want some challenge, that is.
 
I thought the Ford GT was OK once modded. The car that ultimately disapoints me in this game is the Lotus Elise (any model).

I thought it was bad in Top Gear amature challenge because it had bad tyres but to my surprise and disapointment it's not much better with full slicks! The Lotus 111R bonus race was a lesson in power management, not quite what I expected from a car that is so reknown for handling. I thought it would be a mini version of the 458.

This makes me doubt the accuracy of the game compared to real life as I sure hope a real life Elise doesn't spin out everytime you apply the (measly in comparison to 458!) power just a little too early...
 
james1234
I can't believe how ****ing ****** it is. You literally cannot win without soft racing tires because the ****ing thing does not turn, and skids out at the slightest hint of steering while braking.

And yes, I have done this race already and gotten first, but have tried doing it without the tires and its not even remotely fun or challenging like some of the other ones, just purely frustrating. pisses me off.
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My GT is fine. sounds like the driver is the problem.



Lillee
I thought the Ford GT was OK once modded. The car that ultimately disapoints me in this game is the Lotus Elise (any model).

I thought it was bad in Top Gear amature challenge because it had bad tyres but to my surprise and disapointment it's not much better with full slicks! The Lotus 111R bonus race was a lesson in power management, not quite what I expected from a car that is so reknown for handling. I thought it would be a mini version of the 458.

This makes me doubt the accuracy of the game compared to real life as I sure hope a real life Elise doesn't spin out everytime you apply the (measly in comparison to 458!) power just a little too early...
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I modded my elise a bit and its a hell of a lot better than the ones in the Top Gear challenge, and its the same model.
 
This thread is lulz. People trying to claim the Ford GT and Lotus Elise are poor handling cars.

Seriously guys, learn some progressive steering/throttle/braking control and all will be fine for you. Don't treat the 3 inputs you have like on/off switches, appreciate that they all work in tandem and aggresive application of one will affect the other two.

Also, if the OP approached the subject with less of an "THIS CANT BE DONE - THE PHYSICS IS BROKEN AND THE CAR IS GARBAGE" attitude and more "I'm finding this tough - anyone got any tips?" I'm sure it would result in less frustration both for themselves and the people who have to trawl through this nonsense.

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I can't relate to the Ford GT either, given that the classic race version featured in some driving mission in GT4 I loved very much.

Put some sport softs on in the end and did it on the 3rd try with the help of a dash of TCS.

As far as fun goes not a top contender amongst the Vipers and Corvettes (especially the classic race Corvette which is huge fun).
 
Lillee
I thought the Ford GT was OK once modded. The car that ultimately disapoints me in this game is the Lotus Elise (any model).

I thought it was bad in Top Gear amature challenge because it had bad tyres but to my surprise and disapointment it's not much better with full slicks! The Lotus 111R bonus race was a lesson in power management, not quite what I expected from a car that is so reknown for handling. I thought it would be a mini version of the 458.

This makes me doubt the accuracy of the game compared to real life as I sure hope a real life Elise doesn't spin out everytime you apply the (measly in comparison to 458!) power just a little too early...
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The 111R? It's absolutely lovely on Sports Hards. All you need is precise throttle control... and even then, not absolutely precise control, because the low-end torque is quite tame.

The trick is to dump the woefully incorrect default brake balance for a more realistic front-biased brake set-up... I use 5 front / 2-3 rear. Without ABS, drop both numbers two or three notches lower. This cures the instability under braking... actually, this works for many of the mid-engined cars. Front-engined cars are usually okay with 5-5 because this takes away a little understeer under braking... but MR and RR are another matter entirely.

Mid-engined cars are naturally very tricky to drive. The problem is that with a DS3, you can't make steering inputs gradual without concentrating (you'll learn, though), and unlike real-life, where you will feel a Lotus 111R break-away and instinctively counter-steer, in GT5, the first clue you have that you're sliding is when the car is actually sideways. If mid-engined cars were actually as easy to drive as front-engined cars, or easier, then more road-cars would be MR. They aren't, and they aren't.

Drift260Z
I will agree that the Ford GT sucks, for some reason. the balance is terrible. but it is capable of winning in stock form. also, the Ferrari Enzo is surprisingly trash in GT5, too. but the japanese made NSX handles like a dream....hmm......*strokes beard*
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The NSX has very little low-end torque to upset the chassis balance. It's only easy to drive because there's more car there than power... much like with the Lotus 111R (except the NSX has wider tires, to boot).

What's with the Midget hate? I won the pick-up race at Laguna SECA with a Midget on Comfort Softs, with a custom gearbox, 117 hp and a stock suspension and differential. Only challenge was blocking the Tacoma down the main straight at the end of the first lap. Going back to try the same with just 100 hp... maybe Comfort Mediums... :lol: ...probably won't win Daytona with this set-up, but I've yet to see where it'll top out with a good draft...
 
I found the Ford GT difficult to drive in GT5 Prologue, but in the seasonal event yesterday, everything went very well.. Handled like a charm!
 
niky

Mid-engined cars are naturally very tricky to drive.
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I grant you that, but that GT doesn't seem like a MR car to me. It's rubbish through the corners where it should be brilliant, and in a straight line it doesn't convince me either. It either plows straight on if you go too hot into a corner, or bites your head of if you push it a little on corner exit.

The Spirra, one of my all time fun cars, does go sideways, but he always does that so it's huge fun and really very easy to controll. The MR2 handles like a MR car like I would expect: grip, fun, more grip, more fun, no grip, you're dead.

Sorry, no love here, but the event wasn't too bad. With a bit of practise it was quite do-able.
 
james1234
I can't believe how ****ing ****** it is. You literally cannot win without soft racing tires because the ****ing thing does not turn, and skids out at the slightest hint of steering while braking.

And yes, I have done this race already and gotten first, but have tried doing it without the tires and its not even remotely fun or challenging like some of the other ones, just purely frustrating. pisses me off.
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Not trying to be a jerk, but this is simply untrue.

I am not the greatest racing and was able to take first place on the fourth lap with the car stock using SPORT SOFT tires. This took about half an hour of practice achieve. I imagine I could do it with sport medium tires without too much additional practice.

The car is great, I think it's just too fast for you (meaning brake earlier). Don't forget to adjust the brakes so that the front has much more breaking power than the rear. Maybe this is why you spun out easily while breaking.
 
Just finished that Seasonal. Seems doable with stock tires and no TCS... but you'd need a hell of a lot of practice. I really need to brush up on my racecraft. Been away too long. But it only took about ten minutes to get the hang of it on Sports Hards (no TCS) with the DS3. Got up to 5th or so after a few tries. Didn't have much time to play so I switched to Sports Softs and TCS 1 and it was way too easy... won it by lap 4.

It's not terrible. It's actually quite tame as far as supercars go. But that tameness comes with the cost of a bit of understeer. Any mid-engined car that real-life testers praise for predictability and usability will have more understeer at race speeds.

Probably partially the track, too, as Trial Mountain Reverse has a lot of tight uphill corners, which tend to exaggerate understeer.

The understeer issue can be sorted (slightly) with rearward brake biasing. The GT has a huge, heavy V8 midship, and there just isn't enough front-end grip to go with GT5's default 5-5 brake bias... which also exaggerates the braking problems. Give it more rearward brake bias and it's still very stable, but braking distances aren't as big an issue, anymore.
 
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Ford GT is hard to drive? har har. What is so hard about a car that understeers?

Try the Elise 111R then. Brake + turn = oversteer.

Some cheap mods to up power (i think around 590hp) drivetrain upgrade with sports soft and I caught the leader easy just before the last lap.
And I am a lousy driver so....
 
james1234
I can't believe how ****ing ****** it is. You literally cannot win without soft racing tires because the ****ing thing does not turn, and skids out at the slightest hint of steering while braking.

And yes, I have done this race already and gotten first, but have tried doing it without the tires and its not even remotely fun or challenging like some of the other ones, just purely frustrating. pisses me off.
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There must be a lot of cars that you haven't driven yet. It's definately not the worst handling car. It's a nimble butterfly, compared to a tuned Shelby Cobra.
 
I just put sport softs under the thing. after a couple of restarts I won the even without a problem. Like others have said, sport mediums would be ideal for a close race.
 
james1234
I'll just end after this post. The point of my rant/frustration is that you take the stock car and its impossible, you throw new ties on it and crush the field by 45 seconds.

I am not here for the typical "L2P" speech and I really think people aren't understanding me. I am by no means great at this game, but I am halfway decent. I encourage you guys to go try it, stock car, no mods, no assists, abs1, (I used a controller) and report back to me how you did. I believe you will change your tune.
If you still feel I am wrong and that the car doesn't suck in context of the challenge, the price, the lack of "fun'ness", etc. then we can just agree to disagree.
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The problem here is that you're assuming you're supposed to be able to win with the car stock. Most of the other seasonal events have required you tune the car to some degree to win. the only problem now is that without the restrictions it's hard to know just how much to tune the car without wining with ease.

Since you can't win with sports hard tyres, but hammer to opposition with racing soft tyres why not try something in between rather than just complain that you can't win with one and it's too easy with the other.

The car itself is brilliant. I had one fully tuned already but I de-tuned it as much as I could and won, it wasn't difficult because of all other mods I'd done that couldn't be reversed but I only put sports medium on the car. I can see people winning thins with no modifications but sports soft, maybe sports medium if they're a better driver than me. I'd expect it to be easy with racing soft tyres though.
 
Meh turn accel down in the LSD settings to like 15-20 and then it's just peachy... Able to power through the corners without the tail kicking out(DS3).
 
a ford gt was one of the first cars i bought in the game. i fully tuned it before the first seasonal events came out, so my good ol' gt overlapped the cars.

also, i dont think the ford gt is the worst car in the game. believe me, there's a lot worse.
 
james1234
I would love to see a video of it being beat with the car stock. Maybe a wheel would make a difference, but I couldn't say. You can say I'm bad all you want, but until I am proven otherwise, I stand by my statement. Worst car in the game (that I have driven).

When the simple switch from stock tires to soft racing tires drops 48 seconds off my time, its ****ing stupid. The car is garbage without them.
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Is swearing really helping to get your point across?
I think you look stupid when you swear. You make yourself sound incompetent.
 
niky

The understeer issue can be sorted (slightly) with rearward brake biasing. The GT has a huge, heavy V8 midship, and there just isn't enough front-end grip to go with GT5's default 5-5 brake bias... which also exaggerates the braking problems. Give it more rearward brake bias and it's still very stable, but braking distances aren't as big an issue, anymore.
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I have solved the problem with the Ford GT understeer.
Adding rearward brake bias is not THE solution.
It's a bug with the Ford GT '06, '05 and even possibly the race spec Ford GTs.
I haven't got all the race spec GTs yet to confirm.

The solution is in my post in the Tuning forums. But seeing as it's my first post on GTPlanet, it's awaiting Mods approvals, before the post shows up for all to see.

TsLeng
Ford GT is hard to drive? har har. What is so hard about a car that understeers?

Try the Elise 111R then. Brake + turn = oversteer.

Some cheap mods to up power (i think around 590hp) drivetrain upgrade with sports soft and I caught the leader easy just before the last lap.
And I am a lousy driver so....
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Sure slapping on upgrades to the Ford GT will allow you to win the seasonal event, but that's cause the competition is poor. Upgrades like Racing softs will only attempt to mask the bug, it doesn't solve it.

Until you reverse the bug (yes, you can correct the bug) any amount of tuning is nullified.

I also have a setup that corrects the Elise 111R handling to eliminate the Brake+turn = oversteer characteristics. Will be posting the elise 111r setup soon.
 
I'm sorry, I've read the title over and over for ten minutes now, and all I can make out is, "I can't drive well!"
 
TsLeng
Ford GT is hard to drive? har har. What is so hard about a car that understeers?

Try the Elise 111R then. Brake + turn = oversteer.

Some cheap mods to up power (i think around 590hp) drivetrain upgrade with sports soft and I caught the leader easy just before the last lap.
And I am a lousy driver so....
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Same here. With just a little extra power and sport softs, the race was quite easy. I had tried using a setup from an NSX-R too, and it made the car understeer terribly. It was hard to drive, but I still won on my first try.

I tried adjusting the suspension and LSD a bit yesterday when I used the car on another account(moar money :sly:), and it got even better.
 
Well the GT was never made to be Ford's competitor against other supercars. It was made to pay tribute to the legendary GT40 and that's pretty much it
 
The worst? :lol:

I actually bought this car before the seasonal event ever apeared and what i thought of it was.. What a fun car to drive.. he is so tail happy (Stock), i dont know about tuned i kept mine stock because i like it that way..

FORD GT POWER!!! :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
 
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