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MagpieRacer
The bit of the radio message that I heard on SkySports about letting Russel through, I may have heard it wrong but it sounds like GP says "advice is to let Russel through", that could imply the stewards/race director have given that advice rather than the team, like a, let him through to avoid a penalty thing.
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The stewards don't give advice, it's all upto the team. The team have to weigh up the risk themselves based on their experience and video they have at the time.

If they hadn't let Russell back through, it could have been a 5 second penalty - so they possibly thought take the safe option to let him through and then get him back on the straight?
 
MagpieRacer
Yeah completely 50/50, he was alongside, he was making the corner, Max hung it out round the outside, touched wheels etc. Plus it was from a restart and like lap 1 incidents, they always get viewed differently.

The bit of the radio message that I heard on SkySports about letting Russel through, I may have heard it wrong but it sounds like GP says "advice is to let Russel through", that could imply the stewards/race director have given that advice rather than the team, like a, let him through to avoid a penalty thing.
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A few seasons ago it was changed, the stewards won't give out info that someone should let someone past. It's up to the teams to decide that to avoid a possible penalty.
 
I don't know if I can/am allowed to post the direct video link here, but there is some onboard footage from Max's car during the restart on reddit. After his tankslapper, Max does stay in the middle of the front straight, only to have LecLerc drift into his right side as he's passing, which causes the contact between the two.

I personally think that that particular incident wasn't anything that deserves a penalty for Leclerc, but I can see a solid argument on the flipside, too. No doubt that it was the beginning of Max's end, for sure.
 
Ok so.. this "he pushed me off" thing has come up a few times recently, especially with Max.

I need to find clarifiation of the rules here. If the driver on the inside forces you off, or doesn't leave racing room, does that give you the right to overtake off track? My understanding is that it does not, you are not allowed to overtake off track. If someone forces you off, you should give the place back and if it was judged to be an illegal move, they need to give you the place back.

Am i correct here?
 
Nacho Libre
Ahem: "Verstappen madness costed him a lot in the (provisional) Drivers' Championship. Piastri is 10 points back from Norris, which is nothing and we hope to see a true contest between them".
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Which is fine (and I can muddle through reading it too), but the onus isn't on other members to provide translations, rather the people who post the content to ensure it follows literally the first rule of this site.
 
Famine
Which is fine (and I can muddle through reading it too), but the onus isn't on other members to provide translations, rather the people who post the content to ensure it follows literally the first rule of this site.
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All I wanted was the picture which I didnt save properly apparently, delete them or I will.

 
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Spanish Grand Prix 2025: Lance Stroll misses race with injury after losing temper

Aston Martin driver Lance Stroll misses the Spanish Grand Prix with injury, in the aftermath of losing his temper in the team garage.
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The spokesperson said the injury and the episode in the garage were unrelated.
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NotThePrez
I don't know if I can/am allowed to post the direct video link here, but there is some onboard footage from Max's car during the restart on reddit. After his tankslapper, Max does stay in the middle of the front straight, only to have LecLerc drift into his right side as he's passing, which causes the contact between the two.

I personally think that that particular incident wasn't anything that deserves a penalty for Leclerc, but I can see a solid argument on the flipside, too. No doubt that it was the beginning of Max's end, for sure.
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They were both converging to the middle, Max had his steering wheel very slightly right hand down.

timekiller001
A few seasons ago it was changed, the stewards won't give out info that someone should let someone past. It's up to the teams to decide that to avoid a possible penalty.
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Thanks, didn't know that.
 
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DQuaN
Ok so.. this "he pushed me off" thing has come up a few times recently, especially with Max.

I need to find clarifiation of the rules here. If the driver on the inside forces you off, or doesn't leave racing room, does that give you the right to overtake off track? My understanding is that it does not, you are not allowed to overtake off track. If someone forces you off, you should give the place back and if it was judged to be an illegal move, they need to give you the place back.

Am i correct here?
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The right to overtake? No.

But it gets a lot more nuanced if the driver being pushed off is the one being overtaken. Then suddenly it depends on if the driver doing the overtake was ahead at the apex (and was reasonably able to make the corner). If he wasn't ahead, then the driver being pushed off can keep the position, if he does so without gaining an advantage.
 
A_Higher_Place
How about a Sauber overtaking a Ferrari? I didn't have that on my bingo card...
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It was great driving from Hulkenberg. Hope that it's a sign of momentum for him and the team once the Audi takeover happens.

However, as a Lewis fan, it was a little painful to watch.
 
I think the move from Hulk on Lewis was more of a tire delta difference. Hulk was on new soft whereas Lewis was on used. Hulk himself said that too but it certainly is a what could have been for Lewis considering where he started. He was absolutely no where when it came to pace for this race.
 
IforceV8
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The replies under that remind me of what a toxic dump Twitter is.
People accusing the FIA of having a Brit bias (did they not see the incident!?), and people arguing that this is worthy of a lifelong ban from racing (might be overreacting just a little bit)
 
Rossell2
Max Verstappen is your driver of the day.

No I'm not joking.
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Most votes come in quite a few laps before the end of the race, probably a large chunk was before the restart, and he did drive really well up to that point.
And I guess there were also a bunch of people who, like me, didn't notice where Hulkenberg was until his overtake at the end.
 
PaMu1337
The replies under that remind me of what a toxic dump Twitter is.
People accusing the FIA of having a Brit bias (did they not see the incident!?), and people arguing that this is worthy of a lifelong ban from racing (might be overreacting just a little bit)
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Yeah I dont even go down that path, just look at the pictures.
 
So watching back the last couple of laps.

The part with Charles I think was on him he drifted into Max from what I could see, the Red Bull seemed straight and true.

The initial altercation with George and Max I would've attributed to a racing incident, a bit too hard from both sides. Might need to watch this one back again.

Max drove straight into George, plain as day. That was a black flag as Nico said.

Edit: I changed my mind, Max was drifting towards Charles as well. My bad. Watching that replay back right before the safety car was ending and Max was already half alongside Lando, you could already sense he was going to do something stupid. Man is a generational talent but it can be hard to defend him.
 
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I totally understand Max’s frustration after the sc restart but you can’t just deliberately crash into someone. I hope he ends up with a race ban in the future, not only the for the drama but maybe he will clean up his act.
 
Rossell2
So watching back the last couple of laps.

The part with Charles I think was on him he drifted into Max from what I could see, the Red Bull seemed straight and true.

The initial altercation with George and Max I would've attributed to a racing incident, a bit too hard from both sides. Might need to watch this one back again.

Max drove straight into George, plain as day. That was a black flag as Nico said.

Edit: I changed my mind, Max was drifting towards Charles as well. My bad. Watching that replay back right before the safety car was ending and Max was already half alongside Lando, you could already sense he was going to do something stupid. Man is a generational talent but it can be hard to defend him.
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Yeah they were definitely drifting towards eachother, Max clearly has some turn on his wheel, as does Charles, albeit minimally.
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Interesting note shared on Reddit. Due to Yuki being unable to get the Red Bull inside the top 10, Isack has managed to outscore Red Bull over the last 2 races (14 to 13) now also in part to Max's penalty.
 
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Veinz
I totally understand Max’s frustration after the sc restart but you can’t just deliberately crash into someone. I hope he ends up with a race ban in the future, not only the for the drama but maybe he will clean up his act.
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Fat chance in hell of that happening. It's amazing how a 4 times WDC's racecraft turns Ricardo Rosset-esque when under pressure or when things don't go his way.
 
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Fat chance in hell of that happening. It's amazing how a 4 times WDC's racecraft turns Ricardo Rosset-esque when under pressure or when things don't go his way.
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The only reason we haven't seen more of it really is because of how far ahead Red Bull have been. You're right, anytime there's any pressure or challenge he just turns into a child.
 

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