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Verstappen now shares the world record for most wins in a single season with Schumacher and Vettel.
He will beat that no doubt.
Shocked Hampton doesn't have take record!

Great race, really enjoyed that! Especially vettel and lando fighting back through the field.
 
Well the SC and pit botch spiced up the race at the front but still never really doubted VER wouldn't win, his car is still just way better, especially in a straight line.

Some good overtakes and racing down the field though.
 
That was fun!

Max just walking away from everyone. Congrats to Red Bull on their WCC. RIP to Mateschitz.

Really thought Lewis was going to get that first win.

Amazing recovery by Charles. Really capitalized on his luck.

Surprised Alonso was able to finish so strong. Dude's a beast.

Gutted for Vettel after his last stop. He worked so hard and was right up there. At least he recovered a bit in the end.

Good run by Norris, but McLaren's running out of races to nab 4th. C'mon, Daniel... Gawd!

Shame about Sainz.
 
He will beat that no doubt.
Shocked Hampton doesn't have take record!

Great race, really enjoyed that! Especially vettel and lando fighting back through the field.
That's because he had a competent teammate who was allowed to race against him for the WDC during the Mercedes prime years. Vettel, Schumacher and Verstappen have all had no2 drivers that weren't allowed to challenge them.
 
Was hoping to see Lewis win this one and keep his record but Max has been like Thanos this season.....he is inevitable! Even after losing 11+ sec in the pit he still wins the race. "Dominance" doesn't really do them justice. They are in another league.
 
That's because he had a competent teammate who was allowed to race against him for the WDC during the Mercedes prime years. Vettel, Schumacher and Verstappen have all had no2 drivers that weren't allowed to challenge them.
Mercedes once had Bottas give away a win to Hamilton even though Hamilton clearly did not need to win that race. Russia 2018.

Also, the season is practically over. Perez is allowed to challenge Verstappen. The thing is that he can't.
 
Congrats to the all Ferrari podium.

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Mercedes once had Bottas give away a win to Hamilton even though Hamilton clearly did not need to win that race. Russia 2018.

Also, the season is practically over. Perez is allowed to challenge Verstappen. The thing is that he can't.
They even denied him from getting a fastest lap so Lewis could keep it. The teams will do whatever it takes to maximize their results.
 
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That's because he had a competent teammate who was allowed to race against him for the WDC during the Mercedes prime years. Vettel, Schumacher and Verstappen have all had no2 drivers that weren't allowed to challenge them.
Certainly during the time bottas was at merc I would expect Hamilton to have at least 13 victories, he was always a number 2 driver that gave up positions and races for him.
 
Mercedes once had Bottas give away a win to Hamilton even though Hamilton clearly did not need to win that race. Russia 2018.
40 pt. swing w/ 5 races left & Bottas who was well out of the running.

It's unsurprisingly interesting how team orders were okay for Max early in the season because,
Points at the beginning of the season are worth the exact same as points at the end of the season.
But right now they need to prioritize their leading driver as he's involved in a close fight for the championship, obviously.



Yet you reference a race where every point would matter even more so.
 
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Mercedes once had Bottas give away a win to Hamilton even though Hamilton clearly did not need to win that race. Russia 2018.

Also, the season is practically over. Perez is allowed to challenge Verstappen. The thing is that he can't.
Yes but my message was based on how many wins per season. It's kinda hard to do that during 2018 because the Ferrari was slightly better than Mercedes that year, and so Vettel was taking wins off Hamilton. Also that season, Hamilton have a place back to Bottas after a failed attempt at winning a race. It works both ways. Also by the time Russia was there, wasn't Bottas almost out of the WDC championship? That would suggest Mercedes chose to support Hamilton by the last third of a WDC. Kinda smart if you ask me. Red Bull chose to benefit Verstappen this year as early as Spain.
 
Certainly during the time bottas was at merc I would expect Hamilton to have at least 13 victories, he was always a number 2 driver that gave up positions and races for him.
How was he supposed to do that during 2017, 2018, 2019 or 2021? Each and every one of those years had either Ferrari or Red Bull just as fast, if not faster.
 
Actual FACC result
Mercedes - 320
Red Bull - 315
Ferrari - 234
Alpine - 178
McLaren - 172
Aston Martin - 154
Haas - 129
Alfa Romeo - 98
AlphaTauri - 97
Williams - 70

There's only one set of results that will prevent it going down to the final race for the title, Alpine and McLaren can still overtake Ferrari (and will fight each other right down to the wire, probably), Aston not out of the F1.75 battle (although today hurt them), Haas on its own, Alfa/Alpha still fighting F2 and Williams technically not out of the picture either.

Edit: Five-second penalty for Schumacher for leaving the track and gaining an advantage, swaps him and Ricciardo.

Edit edit: So many penalties!
 
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Also that season, Hamilton have a place back to Bottas after a failed attempt at winning a race. It works both ways.
Which race? I can only remember that happening the year before in Hungary.
Also by the time Russia was there, wasn't Bottas almost out of the WDC championship? That would suggest Mercedes chose to support Hamilton by the last third of a WDC. Kinda smart if you ask me.
Bottas has never been in contention for a championship. Neither has Perez. Neither of them ever will be, that's not the point. It's all about getting to win races for them. Red Bull has never denied Perez a guaranteed win so far, Mercedes has definitely done that to Bottas and did it for no good reason.

By the way, you know who was also pretty much out of contention heading into Russia 2018? Everyone. Vettel was already 40 points behind and dropping points at a high rate. There was nothing smart about that team order, it was completely unnecessary.
Red Bull chose to benefit Verstappen this year as early as Spain.
Obviously. Verstappen was behind Leclerc in the championship at the time.
 
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Vettel was already 40 points behind and dropping points at a high rate. There was nothing smart about that team order, it was completely unnecessary.
1 DNF for Lewis & a win for Seb on the next race could've absolutely shut that resulting 50 pt. spread to 25 pts. w/ 4 races to go.

You are actively unraveling your own arguments earlier in the year.
Leclerc may never DNF again for the rest of the season. They have to strike now.
 
Amazing that Alonso managed to finish 7th after the race he had. Still a top tier driver. Really great track and one of the best races of the year.
 
Haas have lodged a complaint for the race result that neither Perez nor Alonso were shown the meatball flag for parts hanging off their cars in the same way that K-Mag has in three occasions this year.

The FIA have agreed and have called for meetings with RB and Alpine separately given that the bits did come off their cars a significant amount of time after they were damaged.

It's unlikely to change the result, but it's a fair comment given the inconsistencies in stewardship from the governing body, and needs investigation.
 
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