Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio De São Paulo 2021Formula 1
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As I already said, I could have phrased my original post better (should have said "for a long time now" instead of "for a long time")
You are now trying to fight an argument which I wasn't trying to make in the first place (which, admittedly, is due to poor phrasing on my part). I already clarified that it wasn't my point
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The phrase "for a long time now" means a long period that is still continuing. Therefore it makes sense to refer to what has happened in the last few years, not what has happened in the years before that while ignoring recent years.
As for what a "long period" is, that's fully subjective, and I consider the vast majority of the last two seasons to be one. You guys clearly don't. Which is fine, but don't use that to claim my argument is false, just because you have a different idea of what a long period is
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What a great race to watch. That rivalry is going strong. Battles on the track. Hamilton's performance this weekend was phenomonal.
We as spectators are the real winners. And sometimes we as keyboard warriors --> yes but Lewis, yes but Max. Funny to read the last five pages with an hour delay 😁
Luckily we can still watch the last three races without knowing the champ already. And in the recent past years that was boring and nobody watched the last races anymore.
We as spectators are the real winners. And sometimes we as keyboard warriors --> yes but Lewis, yes but Max. Funny to read the last five pages with an hour delay 😁
Luckily we can still watch the last three races without knowing the champ already. And in the recent past years that was boring and nobody watched the last races anymore.
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Shame, I kind of wanted an excuse for not watching the races in the countries that think human rights are just a suggestion that can be ignored.
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Not that ironic honestly, @GTFan24 is not even remotely close to being the most biased person on this forums.
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Mate, your point was all over the place and changes nothing from what I said of Max used to have a history of aggressive driving & the penalty points to account for it; he's literally 3rd all time in points behind Kvyat & Vettel since the system came into effect. I even said the words, "used to" b/c Max has been clean the last 2 seasons. If you think Lewis has been overly aggressive the past 2 seasons, fine. It's not some exclusive title only 1 driver can have.
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This right here, last year I would've felt fairly confident about chucking a mortgage on Lewis winning another title after half a dozen races. There's 3 left this year and it still could go either way.
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It was a drive definitely within Lewis' top 10 drives ever, and as he has got some of the greatest drives in F1 history, it does put it up there. But not quite "top of all time" level as the recovery does have an extra 100km to help it.
That said, it was technically a win from 24th if you fudge the 19+5 place grid penalties he actually served.
That said, it was technically a win from 24th if you fudge the 19+5 place grid penalties he actually served.
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Lewis to go see the steward....guess it's not over lol!! 🤦🏾♂️
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I would not be surprised (and I hope not!) that also stopping during the cool down lap and picking up that Brasilianflag and waving with it while driving is part of the 'investigation'. Max also got a reprimande after his post victory burn out.
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They had no issues with it at Silverstone and the many times drivers have done it before.
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So Toto said this on Sky and um... Yikes. I think there were much better ways for him to word these comments.
In what way? It seems like a pretty measured response to what is probably one of the most stressful weekends for Mercedes in the past few seasons. He also empathized with Lewis and his experiences in F1, suggesting that they're now starting to understand what it feels like to have, what seems, the whole world against them.
Verstappen pushed well past the limits of what people consider clean and fair racing, not only with the overtake by pushing, not only Lewis wide, but Valtteri wide at the start of the race. The line was drawn at weaving, which I believe many people believe it was a weak callout after what happened before. Toto said they weren't going to be victims from awful race directing, stewarding, penalties, etc, and that they will fight all the way to the end, similar to what Lewis has been doing.
For you to say that there's better ways for Toto to word his comments, I'm curious as to what you would have said if you were under similar amounts of pressure. That also makes me question whether or not you can even read into the nuance between the words that were said.
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Just like Verstappen's 'fine', even more so with this one, Hamilton could drop €25,000 on the floor and not need to pick it up again.
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The fine here was for taking his seatbelts off, which is pretty slam dunk. Grabbing a flag from a marshals post is not an issue they care about, which is what my comment was for.
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Have they released the on-board footage yet? I saw a bunch of folks on the Reddit race-thread asking when they were going to show Verstappen's view.
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