Formula 1 Formula 1 Off Season, Launches and Testing thread 2019-20

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  1. Jimlaad43

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    The Formula 1 season is over, and we have 3 and a half months to wait for the next season. Before the Australian Grand Prix however, we will have some post-season testing, the car launches, pre-season testing and the other whole manner of storylines and news appearing during the winter break. Use this thread to discuss everything about Formula 1 in this time that isn't relevant to discussion in other specific threads.

    Driver Thread
    Constructors Thread
    Calendar Thread

    Share your personal highlights and memories of the 2019 season, and make sure you subscribe and Share the season highlights videos that the Formula 1 YouTube channel is likely to start churning out over the winter, they've had some great content for the past few years now.
     
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    Not sure this is the right place for this? (Otherwise feel free to delete/move).
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    2020 Zandvoort progress:
    Can you imagine that within 5 months the F1 'circus' will race over this new to be constructed 'Arie Luyendijk curve'



    And also the new (digital) track:



    And hopefully to 'spice up' the 2020 season we can enjoy Drive to Survive season 2 in March?
     
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    I'm a sucker for stats so I compiled some data for the end of the decade:

    We've had 198 races in 25 different countries in the past ten seasons. Hamilton is the only driver to have started all of them, with Vettel starting all except Bahrain 2016. 66 drivers from 23 different countries have started a race, with 11 of them winning one: Hamilton on 73, Vettel 48, Rosberg 23, Alonso 11, Verstappen & Webber 8, Bottas, Button & Ricciardo 7, Raikkonen 3, Leclerc 2 and of course Maldonado on 1. 20,019 points have been up for grabs, with Hamilton grabbing 3,175, Vettel 2,860, Rosberg 1,519, Alonso 1,322, Bottas 1,287, Raikkonen 1,280, Ricciardo 1,040, Verstappen 948, Button 938 and Webber 878.

    Hamilton has the most pole positions with 71, followed by Vettel with 52, Rosberg with 30, Webber with 12, Bottas with 11, Leclerc with 7, Alonso with 4, Ricciardo with 3, Verstappen with 2, and Button, Huelkenberg, Maldonado & Raikkonen each with 1.

    Mercedes have the most wins amongst teams with 93, followed by Red Bull with 56, Ferrari with 28, McLaren with 18, Lotus with 2 and Williams with 1. Mercedes had 48 1-2 finishes, with Red Bull on 13, Ferrari on 5 and McLaren on 3. Mercedes were also the kings of qualifying with 61 front row lockouts, followed by Red Bull with 23, Ferrari with 9, McLaren with 4 and Williams of all teams with 1.

    Of the 20,019 points available, Mercedes picked up 5,112, Red Bull 4,168, Ferrari 4,164, McLaren 1,972, Williams 1,061, Force India 974, Lotus F1 706, Renault 514, Toro Rosso 444, Sauber 305, Haas 198, Racing Point 73, Alfa Romeo 57, Racing Point Force India 52, Marussia 2, Manor 1 and Lotus, Caterham, Virgin and HRT all on 0.

    I'm putting the next bit in spoiler tags cause it's a bit long; a summary of what every driver of the 2010s has done since leaving the sport, enjoy!

    Fernando Alonso: Last raced for McLaren at the 2018 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Now drives for Toyota in the World Endurance Championship.

    Marcus Ericsson: Last raced for Sauber at the 2018 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Now drives for Schmidt Peterson Motorsports in the IndyCar Series.

    Brendon Hartley: Last raced for Scuderia Toro Rosso at the 2018 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Now a development driver for Scuderia Ferrari and drives for Toyota in the WEC and GEOX Dragon in Formula E.

    Esteban Ocon: Last raced for Force India at the 2018 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Now Mercedes’ reserve driver, will race for Renault in 2020.

    Sergey Sirotkin: Last raced for Williams at the 2018 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Now reserve driver for both Renault and McLaren.

    Stoffel Vandoorne: Last raced for McLaren at the 2018 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Raced for HWA Racelab in Formula E in 2018-2019, raced for SMP Racing in the 2019 6 Hours of Spa and 24 Hours of Le Mans. Currently races for Mercedes in Formula E.

    Felipe Massa: Last raced for Williams at the 2017 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Drives for Venturi Grand Prix in Formula E.

    Pascal Wehrlein: Last raced for Sauber at the 2017 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Raced for Mercedes-AMG in DTM in 2018 and as their F1 test driver. Races for Mahindra Racing in Formula E and works as Scuderia Ferrari’s test driver.

    Joylon Palmer: Last raced for Renault at the 2017 Japanese Grand Prix. Now an F1 journalist and commentator for the BBC.

    Paul di Resta: Last raced for Williams as a one-off appearance at the 2017 Hungarian Grand Prix. Raced in DTM for Mercedes for 2017-2018 and now R-Motorsport I, does endurance racing for United Autosports and works as a pundit for Sky Sports F1.

    Jenson Button: Last raced for McLaren as a one-off appearance at the 2017 Monaco Grand Prix. Remained as their reserve driver for the remainder of 2017. Raced for Team Kunimitsu in Super GT in 2019 as defending champion and SMP Racing in the WEC.

    Nico Rosberg: Last raced for Mercedes at the 2016 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Announced his retirement five days later having won the championship. Now works as a pundit for Sky Sports F1 and runs a vlog on his YouTube channel.

    Felipe Nasr: Last raced for Sauber at the 2016 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Drove for Cetilar Villorba Corse in the 2017 European Le Mans Series. Now races for Whelen Engineering Racing in the WeatherTech SportsCar Championship.

    Esteban Gutiérrez: Last raced for Haas at the 2016 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Raced for Techeetah in Formula E and Dale Coyne Racing in the IndyCar Series in 2017, as Mercedes’ test driver in 2018 and is now their simulator and development driver.

    Rio Haryanto: Last raced for MRT at the 2016 German Grand Prix. Spent the rest of the season as their test driver. Raced in the 2018 SIC888 Race at Shanghai and now drives for T2 Motorsports in the Blancpain GT World Challenge Asia.

    Roberto Mehri: Last raced for Manor Marussia at the 2015 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Raced for Manor in the 2016 WEC, almost moved to Formula E for 2017 but instead drove for Campos Racing and Rapax in Formula 2 and CEFC Manor TRS Racing in the 6 Hours of Nürburgring. Then drove for MP Motorsport and Campos Vexatec Racing in Formula 2 for 2018. Now a freelance Formula 1 development driver.

    Will Stevens: Last raced for Manor Marussia at the 2015 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Drove for Manor and G-rive Racing in the WEC in and Belgian Audi Club Team WRT in the Blancpain GT Series in 2016. Races in Le Mans each year and left the Blancpain GT Series at the end of 2018 to drive exclusively for Panis Barthez Competition in the 2019 European Le Mans Series.

    Pastor Maldonado: Last raced for Lotus at the 2015 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Worked as Pirelli’s test driver for two years and now drives for DragonSpeed in the WEC and the WeatherTech SportsCar Championship.

    Alexander Rossi: Last raced for Manor Marussia at the 2015 Brazilian Grand Prix. Worked as MRT’s test driver for 2016 whilst also doing IndyCar, currently drives for Andretti Autosport.

    Adrian Sutil: Last raced for Sauber at the 2014 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Was Williams’ reserve driver for 2015 but has been inactive on social media since January 2018.

    Kamui Kobayashi: Last raced for Caterham at the 2014 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Drove for Kygnus Sunoco Team LeMans in Super Formula in 2015 and 2016. Joined Toyota Gazoo Racing in the WEC in 2016 and moved to KCMG in Super Formula in 2017 and did two races for MS&AD Andretti Formula E in Formula E. Still races for Toyota in the WEC and carrozzeria Team KCMG in Super Formula.

    Jean-Éric Vergne: Last raced for Scuderia Toro Rosso at the 2014 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Remained as Scuderia Ferrari’s test driver for 2015 and 2016. Moved to Formula E in 2014 and won the 2018 and 2019 titles with Techeetah and also races in the 24 Hours of Le Mans.

    Max Chilton: Last raced for Marussia at the 2014 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Drove for Carlin Motorsport in the 2015 Indy Lights Season and raced for Nissan Motorsports in the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Moved to IndyCar in 2016 with Chip Ganassi Racing and has driven for Carlin Motorsport since 2018.

    Jules Bianchi: Last raced for Marussia at the 2014 Japanese Grand Prix. Lapsed into a coma after his crash there and passed away on June 17th 2015.

    André Lotterer: Made a one-off appearance for Caterham at the 2014 Belgian Grand Prix. Continued his long and successful career with Audi Sport Team Joest in the WEC and Team TOM’S in Super Formula. Moved to Porsche LMP Team in the WEC in 2017. Raced for Techeetah in Formula E for 2017-2019 and now races for Porsche in Formula E and Rebellion Racing in the WEC.

    Heikki Kovalainen: Last raced for Lotus at the 2013 Brazilian Grand Prix. Worked as a test driver for BMW Motorsport in DTM in 2014, has driven for Lexus Team SARD in Super Formula since 2015.

    Charles Pic: Last raced for Caterham at the 2013 Brazilian Grand Prix. Worked as Lotus’ reserve driver for 2014 and raced for Andretti Autosport and China Racing in Formula E in 2014-2015. Has been inactive on social media since May 2018.

    Giedo van der Garde: Last raced for Caterham at the 2013 Brazilian Grand Prix. Worked as Sauber’s test and reserve driver for 2014. Sued Sauber at the beginning of 2015 for alleged breach of contract. Moved to the European Le Mans Series in 2016 with G-drive Racing. Raced for Audi Sport in the 2017 Audi Sport TT Cup and currently drives for Racing Team Nederland in the WEC.

    Mark Webber: Last raced for Red Bull at the 2013 Brazilian Grand Prix. Drove for Porsche in the WEC for three years, winning the championship in 2015. Now a pundit for Channel 4’s F1 coverage.

    Michael Schumacher: Last raced for Mercedes at the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix. Sustained severe head injuries in a skiing accident on December 29th 2013 and has been recuperating at home ever since.

    Bruno Senna: Last raced for Williams at the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix. Drove for Aston Martin Racing in the WEC and American Le Mans Series in 2013 and did one race in Stock Car Brazil and the Blancpain Endurance Series. Worked as a pundit and commentator for Sky Sports F1 in 2014 and raced for Mahindra Racing in Formula E from 2014-2016. Returned to the WEC with Aston Martin Racing in 2015 and moved to RGR Sport by Morand in 2016 whilst working on Channel 4’s F1 coverage, then Vaillante Rebellion in 2017, United Autosports in 2018 and now Rebellion Racing.

    Vitaly Petrov: Last raced for Caterham at the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix. Did not race in 2013 before driving for Mercedes in the DTM in 2014 before having another year off in 2015. Moved to the WEC in 2016 with SMP Racing. Raced for CEFC Manor TRS Racing in 2017 before returning to SMP Racing in 2018.

    Pedro de la Rosa: Last raced for HRT at the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix. Worked as Scuderia Ferrari’s simulator and development driver in 2013 and 2014, has run the Techeetah Formula E team since 2015 and runs a driving school and racing team in Spain called Drivex.

    Narain Karthikeyan: Last raced for HRT at the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix. Drove for Zele Racing and Super Nova International in Auto GP in 2013. Then moved to Super Formula driving for Lenovo Team Impul in 2014, Docomo Team Dandelion Racing in 2015, Sunoco Team Le Mans in 2016 whilst racing for MRF Racing in the 2016-2017 MRF Challenge Formula 2000 Championship. Has raced for Nakajima Racing in the Super GT Series since 2017.

    Timo Glock: Last raced for Marussia at the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix. Has driven for BMW in the DTM since 2013 with two appearances for ROAL Motorsport in the 2015 Blancpain Endurance Series and one for BMW in the 2017 Intercontinental GT Challenge.

    Jérôme d’Ambrosio: Last raced for Lotus making a one-off appearance in place of Romain Grosjean at the 2012 Italian Grand Prix as their test driver for that year. Remained as such for 2013 before racing for M-Sport in the 2014 Blancpain Endurance Series. Racing for Dragon Racing in Formula E from 2014-2018 with a one-off appearance for the Cimed Racing Team in Stock Car Brasil in 2018. Currently races in Formula E for Mahindra Racing.

    Jaime Alguersuari: Last raced for Scuderia Toro Rosso at the 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix. Worked as Pirelli’s test driver in 2012 and 2013. Raced for Rowe Racing in the 2014 ADAC GT Masters Series and for Virgin Racing in Formula for 2014-2015 with a one-off appearance for RZ Motorsport in Stock Car Brasil in 2015 before retiring from motorsport to become a DJ known as Squire.

    Rubens Barrichello: Last raced for Williams at the 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix. Drove for KV Racing Technology in the IndyCar Series in 2012 and did three races in Stock Car Brasil with Medley Full Time, has raced for Full Time Sports since 2013 with occasional appearances in endurance racing.

    Sébastien Buemi: Has worked as Red Bull’s test and reserve driver and driven for Toyota in the WEC since 2012, winning the 2018 and 2019 24 Hours of Le Mans, and also for e.dams Renault and Nissan e.dams in Formula E, finishing runner-up in 2015, 2017 and 2019 and winning the title in 2016.

    Vitantonio Liuzzi: Last raced for HRT at the 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix. Worked as their test driver in 2012. Raced for CAAL Racing and Mercedes-AMG Romeo Ferraris in the International Superstars Series and Lotus in the WEC from 2012-2013. Raced for Autobacs Racing Team Aguri in Super GT, HP Real Racing in Super Formula and Team ByKolles in the WEC in 2014. Raced for Trulli GP in Formula E from 2014-2016. Now owns a beach club restaurant.

    Jarno Trulli: Last raced for Lotus at the 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix. Tested pre-season for now Caterham in 2012 before running the Trulli GP Formula E team from 2014-2016. Now runs a vineyard and has his own range of karts.

    Nick Heidfeld: Last raced for Lotus-Renault at the 2011 Hungarian Grand Prix. Raced for Rebellion Racing in the WEC from 2012-2016. Did one year in Formula E with Venturi Grand Prix from 2014-2015 before racing for Mahindra Racing from 2015-2018. Now an analyst for Sky Sports F1.

    Karun Chandhok: Last raced for Lotus at the 2011 German Grand Prix. Remained as test driver for the rest of the season. Raced for JRM in the WEC in 2012, Seyffarth Motorsport and Vita4one Racing Team in the 2013 FIA GT Series, Mahindra Racing in Formula E in 2014-2015, Murphy Prototypes in the European Le Mans Series in 2014 and 2016 and the 24 Hours of Le Mans from 2013-2015, then Tockwith Motorsports in the 2017 24 Hours of Le Mans. Commentated for the BBC and Sky Sports F1 from 2013-2015 and worked as a technical analyst and pitlane reporter for Channel 4 from 2016-2018. Currently a pundit for Sky Sports F1.

    Lucas di Grassi: Last raced for Virgin at the 2010 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Worked as Pirelli’s test driver in 2011. Drove in the WEC for Audi Sport Team Joest from 2012-2016 with appearances for AF Corse in the City of Dreams Macau GT Cup an Tekno Autosports in the International V8 Supercars Championship in 2012, Ipiranga-RCM in Stock Car Brasil from 2014-2016, Audi Sport in the Audi Sport TT Cup in 2016, HCB-Rutronik-Racing in the FIA GT World Cup in 2017 and HERO Motorsport in Stock Car Brasil and Mazda Team Joest in the WeatherTech SportsCar Championship in 2018. Has driven for Audi Sport ABT Schaeffler in Formula E since 2014, winning the title in 2017.

    Christian Klien: Last raced for HRT at the 2010 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Raced for Aston Martin Racing in the 2011 6 Hours of Silverstone and 24 Hours of Le Mans. V8 Supercars, International Superstars, Auto GP, ADAC Procar Series and European Le Mans Series from 2012-2013, Newblood by Morand Racing in the 2014 European Le Mans Series, Team ByKolles in the WEC in 2015 and Lexus Team SARD in Super GT and Zele Racing in the Renault Sport Trophy. Drove for Emily Frey Racing in the Blancpain GT Series from 2016-2018 and for Jaguar in the 2017 Intercontinental GT Challenge. Current writes a monthly column for pitpass.com, works as an Instructor and Coach for Porsche Racing Experience and as a commentator for ORF Sport.

    Sakon Yamamoto: Last raced for HRT at the 2010 Korean Grand Prix. Worked as Marussia’s reserve driver for the first three races of 2011 and did two races for Amlin Aguri in Formula E in 2015. Now general manager of the Sawarabi Group and unsuccessfully ran for public office in the House of Councillors in Japan in 2019.
     
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    As far as I know, Alonso is finished driving for Toyota in WEC. He’s driving Rally Raid, including Dakar in a couple months, in a Toyota Hilux. He’s also looking at Indy 500 in 2020, but as of now (Dec 2019), he’s kind of taking 2020 off and waiting for F1 or WEC in 2021. Also, Ericsson now drivers for Chip Ganassi, not Schmit Peterson. Cool stats though :tup:
     
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    Contact between Seb and Perez:

     
  6. Jimlaad43

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    Well then, here is the final Destructors Championship for 2019, a tally which keeps track of accident damage throughout the season.
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    Norris with the second least damage is kind of impressive.
     
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    I'm more impressed with Daniil "Torpedo" Kvyat somehow being within the bottom 5!
     
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    How come Sky can’t do this?



    I was watching the WTF1 podcast, the lady said she went to the TV directors room in Mexico, asked them about split screen. Their response was “it’s too complicated, how would the commentators know what to talk about?” Sometimes, F1 blows me away with how meat headed some people involved can be.
     
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    Yes there were more races, but 2019 broke the record for most overtakes in a season apparently, passing 2012's tally.
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    I'm not 100% sure how they're counting these, whether pitstops and retirements are included so don't take this as gospel.
     
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    If pitstops and retirements are included then that is a very padded number.
     
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    Still not sure how I feel about these 18” wheels. The rears look ok, but the fronts don’t quite look right to me

     
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    I don't like them at all. The wider tires are one of the only things that harks back to the originals of the 50s and 60s
     
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    Definitely does not help the aesthetics of the already-ugly Formula 1 cars.
     
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    As if they are keeping the Q2 tire rule, that does nothing but protect the top teams and screw whoever qualifies 7th to 10th. Starting P11 is more beneficial.

    Every car should be on fresh tires for the race starts so its fair for everyone. Starting with q3 tires didn’t work and starting with q2 tires doesn’t either. Just drop it already.

    /rant
     
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    Top 5 starting on Q2 tyres is the happy medium I think.