Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2025Formula 1 

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MagpieRacer
"Race". You mean after they've been asked about pitstops, done the stop and then get told to swap places and then "free to race" on circuits that are notoriously difficult to overtake on, particularly in the same cars.
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Could have sworn Oscar overtook Lando in Monza last year.... My mind must be playing tricks one me.

Whatever. You guys like Oscar more and that's fine.

I think McLaren are handling this entire title fight gracefully. The Team AND the Drivers.
 
I don't really see much issue with the swop. McLaren are going to win the constructors and very likely place 1st & 2nd in the drivers (unless another team has a significant boost in performance for the remainder of the season). If anything, this has given us slightly more chance in seeing an actual fight for the drivers championship.

I know its artificial, but then there's plenty of things about F1 that's seen as artificial these days. I see it as an in-team issue only as it doesn't affect any other team in any significant way.
 
GlamFM
I think McLaren are handling this entire title fight gracefully. The Team AND the Drivers.
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🤣. There is nothing about McLaren's performance in this perspective that's graceful. The only thing graceful is how the drivers present themselves to the media in the face of poor management.
 
Bosso
Edit: Also this race needs to be longer. FIA should allow Monza to bypass the 305km rule - I'd say at least 70 laps.
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They could have the 46.7km Monaco doesn't use each year, which would make the Italian GP 61 laps.
Veinz
The whole thing is just laughable. I wonder if Ron Dennis watches these races? I’d love to know what he thinks of papaya rules.
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He may well think papaya rules look familiar:

 
GlamFM
How so? Last year Lando was in the battle for the WDC and Oscar was not - they still made Lando give his place to Oscar. Same thing happened today.
Guess it sucks when this happens to your favorite driver, but McLaren are consistent here.
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Well he wasn't really in the battle for the WDC despite the desperate repetitive claims by commentators.

It didn't look like a real threat to Piastri from LeClerc as Piastri exited pits about 4 sec ahead, however a potentially realistic hypothetical:
  • Norris pits first 1.9s stop
  • Piastri pits next lap 5.9s lap
  • LeClerc gains extra ~.2 or so and arrives at the first turn at the same time as Piastri
  • Tifosi podium possibility versus maintaining points for a title...
  • Piastri would still have passed LeClerc back in the next few laps and results would be the same.
No need for McLaren to do anything.

or another option:
  • Norris pits first 5.9s stop
  • Piastri pits next lap 1.9s and overcut passes Norris.
McLaren still need to fix it?

GlamFM
So you also think Lando should have kept the lead last year in Hungary?
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Perhaps he should not have kept it in Hungary this year?

The team should have taken responsibility for pit stop error calling Piastri in too early before he closed down to an undercut position behind LeClerc. They were the reason he was stuck behind LeClerc otherwise he would have been far ahead at the end - so they should have swapped the positions at the end of that race?
 

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