Forza Horizon 6 - General Discussion

[KILLER2JZ]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon6/s/2pB9hq89Cn

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An ad on reddit seems to have the lbwk super silhouette fd3s rx7
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Yes this gives me hope we are definitely getting some new liberty walk stuff.

I also have the feeling the rescanned R34 is going to have the super shiloett kit.

 

[Michael S YT]

An ad on reddit seems to have shown the lbwk super silhouette fd3s rx7

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon6/s/2pB9hq89Cn

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This is what it looks like:
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I have it in CSR2 (which has 2 versions ingame) and I am glad it will make an appearance in a open world racing game!

 

[ALLSETFORMOVE]

I hope we see an expanded Liberty Walk range of kits at some point in FH6. We definitely aren't getting any at launch but it would be cool to see PG do something like a bodykit pack down the line for FH6.

They could even do a "Liberty Walk" Playlist with

• new LW bodykits being added to existing cars
• all the races in that playlist being restricted to cars with LW kits only
• LW photo challenges, trial, spec racing champ etc.
• and the cars being added in the playlist having a LW kit with them (like the Infiniti G37, Daihatsu Copen for example)

LW has the Super Silhouette range which would be perfect to add as a body kit pack (and I've posted about them before) but they have a massive range now, and heaps of kits to make a little pack for existing cars in the game.

McLaren 720S

Abarth 695

Honda NSX NA-1

Toyota GR86

Lambo Countach

etc etc.

This just looks like a MiniGT product portfolio haha

 

[Michael S YT]

This just looks like a MiniGT product portfolio haha

I think they could give the NA2 NSX the LB kit too.

 

[Confus]

I'm just personally so burned out of the LW stuff and it's a bummer that their kits are literally the only licensed option for a lot of cars in the game. Japan's aftermarket is so incredibly rich and there's a good 30 years of history of companies building parts for some of these cars, e.g., RX-7, S13, R32-34 Skyline, etc. that to just focus on body kits from this one company is doing a disservice to a game that's supposedly all about championing Japanese car culture.

The devs have a chance to really help educate people on this history but they're just leaning in to whatever does numbers on social media. I get it's a business and the game is fluid and things could come in future updates, but at this point I highly doubt it.

 

[Michael S YT]

I'm just personally so burned out of the LW stuff and it's a bummer that their kits are literally the only licensed option for a lot of cars in the game. Japan's aftermarket is so incredibly rich and there's a good 30 years of history of companies building parts for some of these cars, e.g., RX-7, S13, R32-34 Skyline, etc. that to just focus on body kits from this one company is doing a disservice to a game that's supposedly all about championing Japanese car culture.

The devs have a chance to really help educate people on this history but they're just leaning in to whatever does numbers on social media. I get it's a business and the game is fluid and things could come in future updates, but at this point I highly doubt it.

I think we will see more Rocket Bunny and Rauh Welt Begriff kits too.

 

[Confus]

I think we will see more Rocket Bunny and Rauh Welt Begriff kits too.

Again, the Japanese aftermarket is so, so, so much more varied than just Liberty Walk, Rocket Bunny, and RWB. Those are the big 3 companies that everyone knows. RWB and Rocket Bunny (formerly TRA Kyoto) have been doing things for a while, with Nakai active since at least the early 90's, but their current stuff is, like Liberty Walk, extremely derivative.

I'm talking about companies like AB Flug, Veilside, Re Amemiya, URAS, Top Secret, Backyard Special, FEEL's, Esprit, TBO, vintage Mugen, etc. Companies that were (and in some cases still are) extremely active in the golden era of Japanese tuning and helped to make legends out of a lot of these cars.

I have no problem with including new companies, but more variety is desperately needed for a game that is supposed to be all about celebrating Japanese car culture.

 

[Michael S YT]

Again, the Japanese aftermarket is so, so, so much more varied than just Liberty Walk, Rocket Bunny, and RWB. Those are the big 3 companies that everyone knows. RWB and Rocket Bunny (formerly TRA Kyoto) have been doing things for a while, with Nakai active since at least the early 90's, but their current stuff is, like Liberty Walk, extremely derivative.

I'm talking about companies like AB Flug, Veilside, Re Amemiya, URAS, Top Secret, Backyard Special, FEEL's, Esprit, TBO, vintage Mugen, etc. Companies that were (and in some cases still are) extremely active in the golden era of Japanese tuning and helped to make legends out of a lot of these cars.

I have no problem with including new companies, but more variety is desperately needed for a game that is supposed to be all about celebrating Japanese car culture.

Its not just Japanese car culture though its much more than that but I agree we need more than just those 3 brands. I have hopes we will see fundementally changing updates that improve the game a lot very soon. They put so much effort into the base game already and I think this is going to continue regarding the live service aspect of the game.

 

[Confus]

Its not just Japanese car culture though its much more than that but I agree we need more than just those 3 brands. I have hopes we will see fundementally changing updates that improve the game a lot very soon. They put so much effort into the base game already and I think this is going to continue regarding the live service aspect of the game.

The game is taking place in Japan, and per the devs, is supposed to be a celebration of Japanese car culture, so I would hope for, and expect, that to kind of be at the center of the experience.

My ultimate hope is that we have some thoughtful future updates that are well-researched and do actual justice to the variety of tuning styles in Japan. A Kaido Racer update and car pack, for example, if done well, could be incredible.

 

[Michael S YT]

The game is taking place in Japan, and per the devs, is supposed to be a celebration of Japanese car culture, so I would hope for, and expect, that to kind of be at the center of the experience.

It was obvious that this was never going to be exclusively about Japanese car culture just a bigger focus on it than before.

My ultimate hope is that we have some thoughtful future updates that are well-researched and do actual justice to the variety of tuning styles in Japan. A Kaido Racer update and car pack, for example, if done well, could be incredible.

With all the effort they have done with the base game I am sure it will be the same for updates as well.

 

[Tomo 427-MS]

I'm just personally so burned out of the LW stuff and it's a bummer that their kits are literally the only licensed option for a lot of cars in the game. Japan's aftermarket is so incredibly rich and there's a good 30 years of history of companies building parts for some of these cars, e.g., RX-7, S13, R32-34 Skyline, etc. that to just focus on body kits from this one company is doing a disservice to a game that's supposedly all about championing Japanese car culture.

The devs have a chance to really help educate people on this history but they're just leaning in to whatever does numbers on social media. I get it's a business and the game is fluid and things could come in future updates, but at this point I highly doubt it.

Totally agree. I am so bored of Liberty Walk and the likes. Thought the first one was cool when I was in high school, bored and over done now.

Forza actually had some amazing tuner cars back in the day, Motorsport 1 and 2 especially. A lot disappeared when they all had to have interiors, which is understandable I suppose - so I'd have thought giving us the kits would've been a good work around.

 

[Terronium-12]

I'm just personally so burned out of the LW stuff and it's a bummer that their kits are literally the only licensed option for a lot of cars in the game. Japan's aftermarket is so incredibly rich and there's a good 30 years of history of companies building parts for some of these cars, e.g., RX-7, S13, R32-34 Skyline, etc. that to just focus on body kits from this one company is doing a disservice to a game that's supposedly all about championing Japanese car culture.

The devs have a chance to really help educate people on this history but they're just leaning in to whatever does numbers on social media. I get it's a business and the game is fluid and things could come in future updates, but at this point I highly doubt it.

Unfortunately, it isn't as simple as wanting to educate people on history or championing a certain cultures celebration of all things automotive.

Licensing is such a bitch that it seemingly flies in under the radar. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Playground had a list of third-party vendors they were or are still actively pursuing, but haven't been included because the licensing fee is too high, talks fell through for the most obtuse reasons (i.e. our kits can't be involved in off-road racing), or there was an agreement that was rescinded at the last moment for whatever reason, etc, etc.

All in all, you have a point and there should be more than just Liberty Walk for the majority of the cars in-game and I'm sure PG would agree as well, but it's never as black and white as that. Perhaps LW is so far the only vendor that's played ball in a way that suits what the game is about.

 

[KILLER2JZ]

There's hundreds of Japanese tuning companies and body kits suppliers unfortunately we are never gonna get a game where we get most of them.

I'd absolutely love to see VARIS get more widebodies and RE-amemiya and HKS and a heap more but I've come to the realisation that it's not going to happen.

So for now I'm happy that we are getting at least some new customization even if it is just Liberty walk.

I do hope they add more down the line and I'm hopeful we will especially since the game is in Japan you'd think they will do a few customization updates.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

 

[Ls2BluGoat]

Again, the Japanese aftermarket is so, so, so much more varied than just Liberty Walk, Rocket Bunny, and RWB. Those are the big 3 companies that everyone knows. RWB and Rocket Bunny (formerly TRA Kyoto) have been doing things for a while, with Nakai active since at least the early 90's, but their current stuff is, like Liberty Walk, extremely derivative.

I'm talking about companies like AB Flug, Veilside, Re Amemiya, URAS, Top Secret, Backyard Special, FEEL's, Esprit, TBO, vintage Mugen, etc. Companies that were (and in some cases still are) extremely active in the golden era of Japanese tuning and helped to make legends out of a lot of these cars.

I have no problem with including new companies, but more variety is desperately needed for a game that is supposed to be all about celebrating Japanese car culture.

While this subject has been done to death; I can't help but agree with this. What's ironic is that most of these brands are NOT new to the Forza Franchise at all. Brands like ABFlug, TOM'S Inc., Mugen, Top Secret, VIS Racing, Veilside had already made an appearance as far back as Forza Motorsport 2 when I played it during its run.

Again, while I'm not too familiar with logistics behind licensing acquirements, you would think these brands would want more exposure now than ever before alongside a title like Forza.

Hopefully on the next Q&A someone could mention why returning brands such as these have not made a return to the franchise.

 

[Confus]

Unfortunately, it isn't as simple as wanting to educate people on history or championing a certain cultures celebration of all things automotive.

Licensing is such a bitch that it seemingly flies in under the radar. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Playground had a list of third-party vendors they were or are still actively pursuing, but haven't been included because the licensing fee is too high, talks fell through for the most obtuse reasons (i.e. our kits can't be involved in off-road racing), or there was an agreement that was rescinded at the last moment for whatever reason, etc, etc.

All in all, you have a point and there should be more than just Liberty Walk for the majority of the cars in-game and I'm sure PG would agree as well, but it's never as black and white as that. Perhaps LW is so far the only vendor that's played ball in a way that suits what the game is about.

I know you're right, and it's just a bit of shame that the current aftermarket equipment is apparently so limited. You'd think that some of the smaller companies would love the exposure their products would get in a major title like Horizon, but I guess it does always come down to the lawyers.

 

[KopiB]

"You will be the terror of the track behind the wheel of the 2005 Porsche Cayman WTA!"

 

[kjb]

but I guess it does always come down to the lawyers.

It always comes down to the lawyers.

 

[Turboteg90]

Better quality was uploaded below.

 

[Michael S YT]

 

[TGR55]

I wonder if the Forza Widebodies from Forza Motorsport 23 will made it to Forza Horizon 6. Because they have quite a subtle look. With some of those kits basically its original body line just wider.

 

[KILLER2JZ]

I wonder if the Forza Widebodies from Forza Motorsport 23 will made it to Forza Horizon 6. Because they have quite a subtle look. With some of those kits basically its original body line just wider.

I was wondering the same also the 2005 NSX kit that was added to FM 23 I wonder if that will also come over.

 

[JD-Pon]

I was wondering the same also the 2005 NSX kit that was added to FM 23 I wonder if that will also come over.

Would be a waste if they didn't bring it over.

Giving the NA2 a rare widebody (not some generic Forza branded one) to be included in the final major update to FM'23? More than likely backporting it from FH6's production being both are on the same game engine

 

[-Fred-]

I know you're right, and it's just a bit of shame that the current aftermarket equipment is apparently so limited. You'd think that some of the smaller companies would love the exposure their products would get in a major title like Horizon, but I guess it does always come down to the lawyers.

A lot of those smaller companies are not frendly to foreigners trying to visit their shops and simply don't care to see their products being represented in videogames or the internet in general.

 

[Michael S YT]

I wonder if the Forza Widebodies from Forza Motorsport 23 will made it to Forza Horizon 6. Because they have quite a subtle look. With some of those kits basically its original body line just wider.

Especially the MX-5 ND soft top. Its time it gets a bodykit too.

 

[Confus]

A lot of those smaller companies are not frendly to foreigners trying to visit their shops and simply don't care to see their products being represented in videogames or the internet in general.

This is kind of an exaggeration. What has historically happened is that a lot of "content creators" from the States and Europe have shown up to some of the smaller shops completely unannounced and started filming stuff without asking, so they get asked to leave and then proceed to blast the company on social media for being hostile to foreigners.

Many of the shops are actually active businesses trying to work on customer cars so having some rando nosing around filming stuff is a major disruption and even a potential liability.

I'm not saying all of the smaller shops would be receptive to having their products in a game, but it's a little unfair to paint so many of them with this same brush simply because of the actions of other people.

 

[Michael S YT]

This is kind of an exaggeration. What has historically happened is that a lot of "content creators" from the States and Europe have shown up to some of the smaller shops completely unannounced and started filming stuff without asking, so they get asked to leave and then proceed to blast the company on social media for being hostile to foreigners.

Many of the shops are actually active businesses trying to work on customer cars so having some rando nosing around filming stuff is a major disruption and even a potential liability.

I'm not saying all of the smaller shops would be receptive to having their products in a game, but it's a little unfair to paint so many of them with this same brush simply because of the actions of other people.

Yeah I have noticed the same here. The only Japanese bodykit brands you see in racing games is Rocket Bunny, Liberty Walk or RWB and in some cases KRC Japan and Veilside and you will see most of that in CSR2 or Forza games only.

 

[Vic Reign93]

"You will be the terror of the track behind the wheel of the 2005 Porsche Cayman WTA!"

And if anyone’s curious about that cars IRL performance, here’s its run at Tsukuba Time Attack back in 2024.

 

[Confus]

And if anyone’s curious about that cars IRL performance, here’s its run at Tsukuba Time Attack back in 2024.

I am actually very excited this one will be in the game. M's also sells a slightly less extreme version of that widebody kit - that would be a great addition to the game as a customization option, assuming the 987 Cayman is in the game.

 

[willbsn13]

I'm just personally so burned out of the LW stuff and it's a bummer that their kits are literally the only licensed option for a lot of cars in the game. Japan's aftermarket is so incredibly rich and there's a good 30 years of history of companies building parts for some of these cars, e.g., RX-7, S13, R32-34 Skyline, etc. that to just focus on body kits from this one company is doing a disservice to a game that's supposedly all about championing Japanese car culture.

The devs have a chance to really help educate people on this history but they're just leaning in to whatever does numbers on social media. I get it's a business and the game is fluid and things could come in future updates, but at this point I highly doubt it.

I completely agree. PG has so little focus on adding visual parts to this game that I'll take anything at this point, but they could have done so much more - even with brands that they have licensed!

There's plenty of kits missing from brands like KRC Japan, Battle Aero, ADRO, Chargespeed, Varis etc. It's a real shame. We can only hope they continue the trend of adding body kits in updates like in FH5, but do it far far more regularly in FH6

I wonder if the Forza Widebodies from Forza Motorsport 23 will made it to Forza Horizon 6. Because they have quite a subtle look. With some of those kits basically its original body line just wider.

This is the list of 14 Forza Designed kits in FM2023.

2019 Aston Martin Vantage
2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus
2018 BMW M5
2016 Dodge Viper ACR
2019 Ferrari 488 Pista
2016 Ford GT
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2015 Lexus RC-F
2016 Mazda MX-5
2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
2016 Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe S
2017 Nissan GT-R
2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
2015 Subaru WRX STI

Of those 14, 12 models are in FH6.

Would be great to see all 12 make it - we desperately need more customization in anyway possible.

I actually quite like a few of these kits for their subtlety as you point out, here are some photos of a few;