Forza Horizon 6 - General Discussion

[Nacho Libre]

There’s a few cars with quirks like that; the 205 Rallye has some random stickers on the driver’s door, the TVR Sagaris has a Databox logger by the rear view mirror, the Tsuru added in Horizon 5 had some aftermarket switches dotted about the dash despite the rest of the interior being basically stock. It probably exists somewhere, but it’d be cool if there was a thread or page somewhere that documented all these little oddities that were left in during the modelling process.

Faulty wiring/poor workmanship in the Pantera?

Also, if we compare the interior of a BMW 850CSi...

The wood paneling finish in the game looks faded.

 

[willbsn13]

Expansion Ideas;

I know this idea has been floated around here a bit but I thought I'd bring it up again since we now have a Date for Expansion 1. And it's not that far away.

A Motorsport/Circuit Racing themed expansion. I feel like it's being slept on considering a lot of people are throwing the "Street Racing Expansion with Neons etc" out there constantly when it comes to Expansion 1/2 and nothing else (Tbf, I'd like something in that vein too)

We've seen them willing to port classic race cars like the 787B, Tomica Skyline from FM2023. Surely it doesn't stop there, and bringing a whole bunch more over and fleshing out the race car roster would make sense IMO. They have such a nice catalog of race cars right there, it could easily make for 2-3 expansions worth of cars. And now with FM2023 dead, why not bring them over?

They could introduce Pit Stops, Tire and Fuel Management & Soft/Med/Hard Tire Compounds to the Horizon series. This would fulfill what a number of FH expansions usually do - have some sort of unique mechanic that separates it from the base game.

As for the map, it's already been discussed that they could use something like Hakone from FM2023 as the basis for it, and expand the surrounding areas around the track (perhaps with some other smaller grassroots tracks like Soni for example)

And it wouldn't be an idea of mine without someway to improve customization - and that could be achieved by say adding the ballast upgrade from FM2023 to all (or most) cars in FH6. Also including some GT3/4 style body parts/kits for cars so you can "build your own" race car would be neat too.

Maybe this is a way off-base idea - but the more I've thought about, the more I've convinced myself that it's a lock. (Ok maybe not but pls Playground anything other than Lego!)

 

[Populuxe]

Im just gonna say it: I like the Purosangue.

 

[RolexGTP]

Expansion Ideas;

I know this idea has been floated around here a bit but I thought I'd bring it up again since we now have a Date for Expansion 1. And it's not that far away.

A Motorsport/Circuit Racing themed expansion. I feel like it's being slept on considering a lot of people are throwing the "Street Racing Expansion with Neons etc" out there constantly when it comes to Expansion 1/2 and nothing else/ (Tbf, I'd like something in that vein too)

We've seen them willing to port classic race cars like the 787B, Tomica Skyline from FM2023. Surely it doesn't stop there, and bringing a whole bunch more over and fleshing out the race car roster would make sense IMO. They have such a nice catalog of race cars right there, it could easily make for 2-3 expansions worth of cars. And now with FM2023 dead, why not bring them over?

They could introduce Pit Stops, Tire and Fuel Management & Soft/Med/Hard Tire Compounds to the Horizon series. This would fulfill what a number of FH expansions usually do - have some sort of unique mechanic that separates it from the base game.

As for the map, it's already been discussed that they could use something like Hakone from FM2023 as the basis for it, and expand the surrounding areas around the track (perhaps with some other smaller grassroots tracks like Soni for example)

And it wouldn't be an idea of mine without someway to improve customization - and that could be achieved by say adding the ballast upgrade from FM2023 to all (or most) cars in FH6. Also including some GT3/4 style body parts/kits for cars so you can "build your own" race car would be neat too.

Maybe this is a way off-base idea - but the more I've thought about, the more I've convinced myself that it's a lock. (Ok maybe not but pls Playground anything other than Lego!)

I too like the idea of a motorsports expansion. Them adding Hakone should almost be a no brainer as its not a huge track and would obviously fit the japanese theme. Although I would prefer them to do a Fujimi Kaido addition but realize how much work that would require. They could add some roadways and highways that can take you to Hakone circuit.

Adding about a dozen race cars, most of which from Fm23 like the Group C ones but maybe a couple of new ones. The Spice SE89 to join the already few early 90s Group C cars in game and the Supra and NSX 90s JGTC cars could be added to join the lone pennzoil GTR thats in game too. Whatever else they do could be icing on the cake.

 

[shaboo]

I’m not sure—perhaps many people play FH precisely because they have no interest in the usual motorsport stuff. Personally, I definitely don’t need an expansion like that.

 

[Nacho Libre]

I too like the idea of a motorsports expansion. Them adding Hakone should almost be a no brainer as its not a huge track and would obviously fit the japanese theme. Although I would prefer them to do a Fujimi Kaido addition but realize how much work that would require. They could add some roadways and highways that can take you to Hakone circuit.

Adding about a dozen race cars, most of which from Fm23 like the Group C ones but maybe a couple of new ones. The Spice SE89 to join the already few early 90s Group C cars in game and the Supra and NSX 90s JGTC cars could be added to join the lone pennzoil GTR thats in game too. Whatever else they do could be icing on the cake.

If you look closely, in Fujimi Kaido there is a connecting road (blocked) to Hakone.

 

[Totoro87]

Expansion Ideas;

I know this idea has been floated around here a bit but I thought I'd bring it up again since we now have a Date for Expansion 1. And it's not that far away.

A Motorsport/Circuit Racing themed expansion. I feel like it's being slept on considering a lot of people are throwing the "Street Racing Expansion with Neons etc" out there constantly when it comes to Expansion 1/2 and nothing else/ (Tbf, I'd like something in that vein too)

We've seen them willing to port classic race cars like the 787B, Tomica Skyline from FM2023. Surely it doesn't stop there, and bringing a whole bunch more over and fleshing out the race car roster would make sense IMO. They have such a nice catalog of race cars right there, it could easily make for 2-3 expansions worth of cars. And now with FM2023 dead, why not bring them over?

They could introduce Pit Stops, Tire and Fuel Management & Soft/Med/Hard Tire Compounds to the Horizon series. This would fulfill what a number of FH expansions usually do - have some sort of unique mechanic that separates it from the base game.

As for the map, it's already been discussed that they could use something like Hakone from FM2023 as the basis for it, and expand the surrounding areas around the track (perhaps with some other smaller grassroots tracks like Soni for example)

And it wouldn't be an idea of mine without someway to improve customization - and that could be achieved by say adding the ballast upgrade from FM2023 to all (or most) cars in FH6. Also including some GT3/4 style body parts/kits for cars so you can "build your own" race car would be neat too.

Maybe this is a way off-base idea - but the more I've thought about, the more I've convinced myself that it's a lock. (Ok maybe not but pls Playground anything other than Lego!)

I would love to be surprised by a more serious, motorsport themed DLC. Bring on the JGTC and GT500's!

 

[Digolgrin]

Expansion Ideas;

I know this idea has been floated around here a bit but I thought I'd bring it up again since we now have a Date for Expansion 1. And it's not that far away.

A Motorsport/Circuit Racing themed expansion. I feel like it's being slept on considering a lot of people are throwing the "Street Racing Expansion with Neons etc" out there constantly when it comes to Expansion 1/2 and nothing else/ (Tbf, I'd like something in that vein too)

We've seen them willing to port classic race cars like the 787B, Tomica Skyline from FM2023. Surely it doesn't stop there, and bringing a whole bunch more over and fleshing out the race car roster would make sense IMO. They have such a nice catalog of race cars right there, it could easily make for 2-3 expansions worth of cars. And now with FM2023 dead, why not bring them over?

They could introduce Pit Stops, Tire and Fuel Management & Soft/Med/Hard Tire Compounds to the Horizon series. This would fulfill what a number of FH expansions usually do - have some sort of unique mechanic that separates it from the base game.

As for the map, it's already been discussed that they could use something like Hakone from FM2023 as the basis for it, and expand the surrounding areas around the track (perhaps with some other smaller grassroots tracks like Soni for example)

And it wouldn't be an idea of mine without someway to improve customization - and that could be achieved by say adding the ballast upgrade from FM2023 to all (or most) cars in FH6. Also including some GT3/4 style body parts/kits for cars so you can "build your own" race car would be neat too.

Maybe this is a way off-base idea - but the more I've thought about, the more I've convinced myself that it's a lock. (Ok maybe not but pls Playground anything other than Lego!)

I certainly think there'll be one in the works, but with the first expansion heavily implied to be another island detached from the main map, I don't think it'll be this one. Personally, I think the new race cars are mostly justified by the more professional-looking circuits on the map, the same way the increase in drag-ready cars is justified by the Drag Meets (and PG desperately wanting them to be relevant IMO) and so I doubt they'll really want to do a motorsports/asphalt-aligned expansion out of 'we don't want to make the off-roaders in our audience feel left out.'

But, my expectation for Expansion 1 is that it'll be the pop culture-themed one. I still expect it'll be Fast and Furious-themed, especially with it sounding like they're going to reveal it at the Game Awards, where the largest number of eyeballs will see it--2026 is, after all, an anniversary year for both Tokyo Drift and the franchise as a whole, so I doubt Forza would want to let it pass without a celebration in some form. Heck, just the fact that PS5 folks are going to get to play it day and date with the release of their version should be telling that it's going to be something with extra-wide appeal.

 

[VXR]

I too like the idea of a motorsports expansion. Them adding Hakone should almost be a no brainer as its not a huge track and would obviously fit the japanese theme. Although I would prefer them to do a Fujimi Kaido addition but realize how much work that would require. They could add some roadways and highways that can take you to Hakone circuit.

Adding about a dozen race cars, most of which from Fm23 like the Group C ones but maybe a couple of new ones. The Spice SE89 to join the already few early 90s Group C cars in game and the Supra and NSX 90s JGTC cars could be added to join the lone pennzoil GTR thats in game too. Whatever else they do could be icing on the cake.

I'd be amazed if Fujimi wasn't made with adding it to Horizon's map in mind. It surely wasn't a coincidence it appeared in FM when the next Horizon was based broadly in that part of Japan, and they'd been adding JDM cars to both Motorsport and Horizon 5 12-18 months prior to its announcement.

 

[willbsn13]

I too like the idea of a motorsports expansion. Them adding Hakone should almost be a no brainer as its not a huge track and would obviously fit the japanese theme. Although I would prefer them to do a Fujimi Kaido addition but realize how much work that would require. They could add some roadways and highways that can take you to Hakone circuit.

Adding about a dozen race cars, most of which from Fm23 like the Group C ones but maybe a couple of new ones. The Spice SE89 to join the already few early 90s Group C cars in game and the Supra and NSX 90s JGTC cars could be added to join the lone pennzoil GTR thats in game too. Whatever else they do could be icing on the cake.

Expanding on the JGTC front would make too much sense - also bringing back the TCR cars from FH5 but also including some of the FM2023 ones like the Civic, Levorg, Focus would be cool too. That's no even mentioning how cool it would be to have some of the Open Wheelers or NASCAR in Horizon too.

I’m not sure—perhaps many people play FH precisely because they have no interest in the usual motorsport stuff. Personally, I definitely don’t need an expansion like that.

This is a very good point - I could easily seeing the Top Level Management at PG being like "Well FM2023 failed, why would we base an expansion around content and mechanics from that". I'd disagree with that hypothetical statement, but could easily see it being the reason for an Expansion like this being shot down.

I certainly think there'll be one in the works, but with the first expansion heavily implied to be another island detached from the main map, I don't think it'll be this one. Personally, I think the new race cars are mostly justified by the more professional-looking circuits on the map, the same way the increase in drag-ready cars is justified by the Drag Meets (and PG desperately wanting them to be relevant IMO) and so I doubt they'll really want to do a motorsports/asphalt-aligned expansion out of 'we don't want to make the off-roaders in our audience feel left out.'

But, my expectation for Expansion 1 is that it'll be the pop culture-themed one. I still expect it'll be Fast and Furious-themed, especially with it sounding like they're going to reveal it at the Game Awards, where the largest number of eyeballs will see it--2026 is, after all, an anniversary year for both Tokyo Drift and the franchise as a whole, so I doubt Forza would want to let it pass without a celebration in some form. Heck, just the fact that PS5 folks are going to get to play it day and date with the release of their version should be telling that it's going to be something with extra-wide appeal.

Yeah I think F&F is the safe pick. Forza has worked with the franchise before multiple times - and it does appeal to a very wide audience, certainly much wider than a Motorsport themed expansion.

I guess the question is, what does a F&F expansion look like for FH6? What is the island themed around? What is mechanically unique about the experience vs the base game? I'm sure PG can cook something reasonably interesting, but it can't just be; dump a bunch of past & present F&F cars on a generic island map and call it a day.

I'd be amazed if Fujimi wasn't made with adding it to Horizon's map in mind. It surely wasn't a coincidence it appeared in FM when the next Horizon was based broadly in that part of Japan, and they'd been adding JDM cars to both Motorsport and Horizon 5 12-18 months prior to its announcement.

Agreed. It makes too much sense IMO.

I think Fujimi is big enough by itself to warrant it's own expansion. They could add additional routes (dirt, mixed surface) up the mountain, flesh out the surrounding areas, add Hill Climbs as a new race type... some really great possibilities if PG went down that route.

Could you imagine blasting up the mountain in Winter in this thing?

 

[-Fred-]

I mean, the game is set in Japan and Tokyo Drift is... 20 years old (what?) so it would make sense to have an expansion based around that at some point.

 

[RazorSharkz]

I mean, the game is set in Japan and Tokyo Drift is... 20 years old (what?) so it would make sense to have an expansion based around that at some point.

I feel like Tokyo Drift may be the theme of an update rather than a full expansion. The 20 year thing is a good shout though imo. Fast And Furious have shown up in almost every Horizon game so the relationship seems positive

 

[Komrad Syka]

I feel like Tokyo Drift may be the theme of an update rather than a full expansion. The 20 year thing is a good shout though imo. Fast And Furious have shown up in almost every Horizon game so the relationship seems positive

and the final fast and furious will be release next year. so we will probably see a new car pack from that movie just like fast x car pack in fh5

 

[Digolgrin]

Yeah I think F&F is the safe pick. Forza has worked with the franchise before multiple times - and it does appeal to a very wide audience, certainly much wider than a Motorsport themed expansion.

I guess the question is, what does a F&F expansion look like for FH6? What is the island themed around? What is mechanically unique about the experience vs the base game? I'm sure PG can cook something reasonably interesting, but it can't just be; dump a bunch of past & present F&F cars on a generic island map and call it a day.

If I had to guess? Call it Fast and Furious Stunt Park. Make it, essentially, a Horizon Rush-based campaign, with similar progression to Hot Wheels Park in FH5. You barrel through ranks, with Showcases (of sorts) and Horizon Rush events themed around and inspired by various famous stunts and sequences from throughout Fast and Furious's storied legacy to capstone each chapter of the expansion's story. The actual aesthetic of the island would be, essentially, one giant movie studio set in an Okinawa/Bonin Islands-inspired locale, seemingly tailor-made for Fast and Furious filming, with other references to F&F scattered about for the eagle-eyed fan. You'd get more Drag Meets and Drift Attack circuits--Jordan wouldn't have implied there was more than one Drift Attack circuit outside of Shimanoyama if PG wasn't thinking about more permanent additions, while the routes would perhaps start feeling more cinematic than 'realistic', with more opportunities for Skills in the races themselves. Basically taking what worked from Horizon Rush and translating it into actual races.

The Horizon Story would, like Hot Wheels, essentially be a guided tour of the franchise's filming history, while the story justification would perhaps be Horizon getting contacted to help put together a documentary on the franchise in a way only Horizon can--by giving its Legends free license to tear it up the way Dom and family do. Iconic F&F cars (that aren't the Tokyo Drift Mustang we already have) will be rewards for progressing through the DLC campaign, while the Horizon Story perhaps gives out a bunch of up-and-coming speed demons and/or future stunt cars, like the C8 ZR1. Heck, maybe you could even end it with revealing the 'hero car' for Fast Forever and giving it to everyone who owns the expansion for free, just to drive up hype for that movie.

EDIT: Oh, crud, brainwave hit me right after I sent it. Maybe crib from Rally Adventure and divide Mei, Kyoko and Jordan into three separate mini-campaigns just like that expansion did, each one focusing on a specific aspect of Fast's movies--one focusing on the initial street racing movies, one focusing on the skill-based driving in the middle of the series, and one focusing on the stunt-driven supercar-glazing modern day Fast and Furious movies with their more ridiculous premises and stunts. Essentially you'd end up bringing all three together as the 'Horizon Family', as corny as that sounds, to symbolize how Fast isn't just one thing or one genre of movies.

 

[willbsn13]

If I had to guess? Call it Fast and Furious Stunt Park. Make it, essentially, a Horizon Rush-based campaign, with similar progression to Hot Wheels Park in FH5. You barrel through ranks, with Showcases (of sorts) and Horizon Rush events themed around and inspired by various famous stunts and sequences from throughout Fast and Furious's storied legacy to capstone each chapter of the expansion's story. The actual aesthetic of the island would be, essentially, one giant movie studio set in an Okinawa/Bonin Islands-inspired locale, seemingly tailor-made for Fast and Furious filming, with other references to F&F scattered about for the eagle-eyed fan. You'd get more Drag Meets and Drift Attack circuits--Jordan wouldn't have implied there was more than one Drift Attack circuit outside of Shimanoyama if PG wasn't thinking about more permanent additions, while the routes would perhaps start feeling more cinematic than 'realistic', with more opportunities for Skills in the races themselves. Basically taking what worked from Horizon Rush and translating it into actual races.

The Horizon Story would, like Hot Wheels, essentially be a guided tour of the franchise's filming history, while the story justification would perhaps be Horizon getting contacted to help put together a documentary on the franchise in a way only Horizon can--by giving its Legends free license to tear it up the way Dom and family do. Iconic F&F cars (that aren't the Tokyo Drift Mustang we already have) will be rewards for progressing through the DLC campaign, while the Horizon Story perhaps gives out a bunch of up-and-coming speed demons and/or future stunt cars, like the C8 ZR1. Heck, maybe you could even end it with revealing the 'hero car' for Fast Forever and giving it to everyone who owns the expansion for free, just to drive up hype for that movie.

EDIT: Oh, crud, brainwave hit me right after I sent it. Maybe crib from Rally Adventure and divide Mei, Kyoko and Jordan into three separate mini-campaigns just like that expansion did, each one focusing on a specific aspect of Fast's movies--one focusing on the initial street racing movies, one focusing on the skill-based driving in the middle of the series, and one focusing on the stunt-driven supercar-glazing modern day Fast and Furious movies with their more ridiculous premises and stunts. Essentially you'd end up bringing all three together as the 'Horizon Family', as corny as that sounds, to symbolize how Fast isn't just one thing or one genre of movies.

Yeah, I could see PG doing something like that. I wouldn't love it tbh, so that probably means it will happen haha.

 

[GBalao888]

My expansion ideas could either be:

Expansion 1: Kansai Region (Osaka/Kyoto/Nara/Mt. Rokko)

Noticing how FH6's main Japanese map takes mostly from Tokyo/Hakone/Gotemba and some bit of Hokkaido up north, I'm surprised none of the Kansai region is ever represented so far. Think a vibrant map expansion with Osaka, Kyoto, Nara and Mt. Rokko with enhancements to almost all racing types, to give you the feeling that you're going from one region to another.

(Realistically most people go from Tokyo to Osaka via Shinkansen, and it's also doable by car but it will take six hours and three minutes at best depending on traffic and assuming you stick to the speed limit. Taking the Shinkansen would take roughly two hours and 21 minutes.)

Expansion 2: either Tomica or Ridge Racer

At this point, if toy-themed, or outlandish expansions are still a thing, a Tomica expansion would make sense as it is Japan's most popular brand of toy cars, where players could drive to a Tomica town and drive quirky everyday vehicles from kei cars to economy vehicles, not to mention this also opens up the possibility of new Horizon Jobs and Stories.

If not Tomica, maybe perhaps Ridge Racer, as it was the most-voted for partnership back when the Forza forums were still active, and that Bandai Namco wanted other developers to license their IP's, including the dormant ones. Imagine, Ridge City and other regions of Ridge State mashed into one map with a mix of actual cars and authentic Ridge Racer cars rebuilt for Forza, this could perhaps be the biggest and most ambitious expansion yet.