Forza Horizon 6 - General Discussion

[PlageBLN]

I'm curious to know if that means that imported vinyls are not automatically shared now. That'd be great, but I could see how changing that may absolutely bork other aspects of the needlessly convoluted import system.

No, I've just tested it and new imported ones will still show up as shared in your hub. Like expected they'll also get thrown into the slection randomly. Meaning you've to manually search for them in all the mess.

I also found that quite a couple of vinyls are actually showing up twice for what ever reason.

It also seems that imported and downloaded (applied) vinyls can't get fully deleted from the import page. One copy of the respective vinyl will still show up there even if you've deleted it under "my vinyl groups".

It's a total mess at this point!

Sidenote: The easiest way to find fresh imported vinyls now seems to be to download them directly from your hub as they'll show up there even if you haven't actually downloaded (applied) them to a car now. The unshare and delete function under "my vinyl groups" fortunately seems to work normally. So they won't get "stuck" as shared at least.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Very excited for this update, but, reeeeeeally doesn't sit right with me that a car from FM4 is a car pass car that we've paid for. At all.

I hope they redeem it with an XJS return for this British update...

Yes I'm back on my XJS missing bs

I honestly don't mind paying for a car we haven't seen in 15 years.

 

[ykiki]

Maybe I should count myself lucky that my road count is still 671.

 

[UKMikey]

Maybe I should count myself lucky that my road count is still 671.

I escaped the "roads driven" purge too according my stats. I appear to be missing four places of interest. I'd look them up on Google but I really can't be arsed.

 

[HoldenOn]

For the Horizon Promo photos for the Trolli Peel and Fanta Toyota try "Play Challenges" rather than "Play Event" in EventLab. My experience is Events only allow cars you own, but Challenges allow you to play (and photograph) ones you don't.

I've tried these two challenges just now. I own the Toyota but not the Peel, but was able to finally get a photo of the Peel (and drive it, for those who are interested in that sort of thing...)

Trolli Peel: 916 795 478
Fanta Toyota: 149 844 826

I can confirm that this works so thanks very much for bringing it to our attention. I got quite a few photos of car I don’t own. My roads discovered is at 658 now not 671 are well can’t be bothered going through that again hopefully they will fix this with another update

 

[Turboteg90]

I have a theory, I think they are saving the good updates for when the game is on both consoles.

 

[RazorSharkz]

I have a theory, I think they are saving the good updates for when the game is on both consoles.

I could see them saving something really special for the PS5 release tbh.

Also I think they are still thinking they are riding the wave of the release and have some stuff saved up or at least planned for when the game settles a bit.

 

[RokkuDayo]

No, I've just tested it and new imported ones will still show up as shared in your hub. Like expected they'll also get thrown into the slection randomly. Meaning you've to manually search for them in all the mess.

I also found that quite a couple of vinyls are actually showing up twice for what ever reason.

It also seems that imported and downloaded (applied) vinyls can't get fully deleted from the import page. One copy of the respective vinyl will still show up there even if you've deleted it under "my vinyl groups".

It's a total mess at this point!

Sidenote: The easiest way to find fresh imported vinyls now seems to be to download them directly from your hub as they'll show up there even if you haven't actually downloaded (applied) them to a car now. The unshare and delete function under "my vinyl groups" fortunately seems to work normally. So they won't get "stuck" as shared at least.

If you're on PC, the best way to import vinyls from previous games into 6 is to just find them in the save folder for said game and copy that into the save folder for 6. The game will load them just fine and you don't need to temporarily share them.

You can even load stuff from Motorsport 5 and Horizon 2 if you use the shared storage feature in any game as it just downloads your entire save for that game in a separate folder.

 

[Digolgrin]

I have a theory, I think they are saving the good updates for when the game is on both consoles.

This seems like it should be supported by looking at the first couple Series of FH5:
Series 1 of FH5:
Four returning cars, one New-to-Horizon (This included the Zerouno, the McLaren F1 and the Tachyon so not really that bad of an update outside of making the AE86 a FOMO car for no good reason)

Series 1 of FH6:
24 returning cars, one New-to-Horizon, two New-to-Forza--though this is inflated by the massive number of FOMO cars in the playlist

Series 2 of FH5:
Seven returning cars, one New-to-Forza (A very stacked update IIRC--two returning Ferraris, three Lambos, including one New-to-Forza in the Aventador SVJ, the 8CTF, and... the two Peels.)

Series 2 of FH6:
One New-to-Horizon, one New-to-Forza, three returning cars

Series 3 of FH5:
One New-to-Horizon, seven returning cars (Outside of the Donkervoort and the Zenvo, I don't really remember this update setting the world on fire exactly. The New-to-Horizon being the Celica SSII didn't help matters, especially since it was the last car I needed to get to complete the collection once upon a time and I had a hell of a time getting it!)

Series 3 of FH6:
Three New-to-Forza, five returning cars (counting the Cosmo being made available in this Series)

Series 4 of FH5:
Three New-to-Forza, one returning car (Mostly loaded down with Chinese cars and a 996 911. I remember the NIO being interesting, but the Wuling and MG3 were unremarkable at best.)

Series 4 of FH6: (We are here)
One New-to-Horizon, two New-to-Forza, two returning

And for the hell of it:

Series 5 of FH5:
Three New-to-Forza, two returning (Perhaps the closest thing to a 'baseline' update I can think of. I can't really say much about it.)

It does seem like it makes sense, though Series 1 through 3 last game were made up of a lot of returning cars, with only three actually new cars coming in, while Series 4 opened up the faucet more. The Car Pass carried a lot of the New-to-Forzas in FH5 around this time too, though it actually did have one New-to-Horizon in it at this point while FH6 currently has two.

Honestly, only one Playlist update actually complemented the Car Pass well at this point, and that was Series 2 basically being loaded with great Italian cars, returning and otherwise.

Oh, and since I got curious, the first Automotive Excellence update of FH5 consisted mostly of expensive Autoshow cars and only three cars getting added outside of the Car Pass--one returning, the rest New-to-Forza. Maybe set expectations a little low for British Automotive, if history serves us.

 

[GBalao888]

Maybe set expectations a little low for British Automotive, if history serves us.

I have a feeling the McLaren Senna will return with British Automotive, and people would have gotten worked up over its mysterious disappearance from launch.

 

[Gooby]

The rewards still are pretty boring, the corvette is the only actual decent reward in my opinion. Everything else is just worth under 100k. I am getting tired of the bloat in my garage, I would rather just have the option to not receive the car at that point.

 

[Digolgrin]

I have a feeling the McLaren Senna will return with British Automotive, and people would have gotten worked up over its mysterious disappearance from launch.

True. Heck, while I'm here, I'm gonna throw down a kneejerk prediction.

The realistic approach to predicting this update largely comes down to the fact that there are... a lot of British cars either still trapped in FM2023 or mysteriously absent from FH6 despite being in FH5. You've got the '67 DBS and the rescanned V8 Vantage in FM2023, a good chunk of the modern Jaguars like the XKR and F-Type from FH5, and modern MGs, just to name a few (even though MG is owned by a Chinese company now). Still, I can't help but feel like they'd want to stack the cars with FM2023 cars first, then maybe make expensive British Autoshow cars like the Valhalla concept into Hard-to-Finds or Trial rewards.

Thus:

Series Reward: 1967 Aston-Martin DBS (New-to-Horizon)
Summer: 2015 Jaguar F-Type R OR the XE SV Project 8 OR the F-Type R Project 7 (returning from FH5)
Autumn: 1998 Aston-Martin V8 Vantage V600 (New-to-Horizon)
Winter: 2002 Lotus Esprit V8 OR Lotus Esprit Turbo (returning from FH5)
Spring: 2018 McLaren Senna (returning from FH5)

This isn't factoring in New-to-Forzas, but those tend to come in with the Car Pass anyway, and those will be anyone's guess. If German Automotive back in FH5 was any indication though, expect a lot of British cars.

 

[Kelpy D]

This seems like it should be supported by looking at the first couple Series of FH5:
Series 1 of FH5:
Four returning cars, one New-to-Horizon (This included the Zerouno, the McLaren F1 and the Tachyon so not really that bad of an update outside of making the AE86 a FOMO car for no good reason)

Series 1 of FH6:
24 returning cars, one New-to-Horizon, two New-to-Forza--though this is inflated by the massive number of FOMO cars in the playlist

Series 2 of FH5:
Seven returning cars, one New-to-Forza (A very stacked update IIRC--two returning Ferraris, three Lambos, including one New-to-Forza in the Aventador SVJ, the 8CTF, and... the two Peels.)

Series 2 of FH6:
One New-to-Horizon, one New-to-Forza, three returning cars

Series 3 of FH5:
One New-to-Horizon, seven returning cars (Outside of the Donkervoort and the Zenvo, I don't really remember this update setting the world on fire exactly. The New-to-Horizon being the Celica SSII didn't help matters, especially since it was the last car I needed to get to complete the collection once upon a time and I had a hell of a time getting it!)

Series 3 of FH6:
Three New-to-Forza, five returning cars (counting the Cosmo being made available in this Series)

Series 4 of FH5:
Three New-to-Forza, one returning car (Mostly loaded down with Chinese cars and a 996 911. I remember the NIO being interesting, but the Wuling and MG3 were unremarkable at best.)

Series 4 of FH6: (We are here)
One New-to-Horizon, two New-to-Forza, two returning

And for the hell of it:

Series 5 of FH5:
Three New-to-Forza, two returning (Perhaps the closest thing to a 'baseline' update I can think of. I can't really say much about it.)

It does seem like it makes sense, though Series 1 through 3 last game were made up of a lot of returning cars, with only three actually new cars coming in, while Series 4 opened up the faucet more. The Car Pass carried a lot of the New-to-Forzas in FH5 around this time too, though it actually did have one New-to-Horizon in it at this point while FH6 currently has two.

Honestly, only one Playlist update actually complemented the Car Pass well at this point, and that was Series 2 basically being loaded with great Italian cars, returning and otherwise.

Oh, and since I got curious, the first Automotive Excellence update of FH5 consisted mostly of expensive Autoshow cars and only three cars getting added outside of the Car Pass--one returning, the rest New-to-Forza. Maybe set expectations a little low for British Automotive, if history serves us.

From what I've noticed, under the perspective of a Free-to-play player, PGG's slowly upping their game when it comes to selecting which recycled cars, as I'd like to call it to add. I've come up with these categories that I use to determine the "quality of choice" when assessing recycled cars.

• New to Forza - These cars were never before seen in a Forza game, at all.
• New to Horizon - These cars are last seen in either FM23, FM7, FM6, FM5 and the 360-era Forza Motorsport games, but have never appeared over the past 2 Horizon games
• Unearthed from the Horizon Vault - These cars are last seen in either FH4, FH3, FH2 or FH1 (use it as "cars that were unearthed from the Horizon Vault")
• Average Recycle - These cars were already seen in FH5's endgame car list, or should have been in Day 1

So far, we had the following as New to Horizon cars in FH6:

• 1969 Datsun 2000 Spyder (Series 1 - Last seen in FM23)
• 1984 De Tomaso Pantera GT5 (Series 3 - Last seen in FM23)
• 2006 Dodge RAM SRT-10 (Series 2 - Last seen in FM4)
• 2022 Lamborghini Huracan Evo Spyder (Series 3 - Last seen in FM23)
• 2008 Mazda Furai (Series 1 - Last seen in FM23)
• 1993 Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau (Series 2 - Last seen in FM23)

Compared with FH5's amount of New to Horizon cars over its first three updates (only the DeLorean DMC-12), FH6 is a big spike in New to Horizon quantity.

The way I see their current formula, a typical playlist will include, in a minimum of 5:

• New to Forza Spotlight Car (the 80 point rewards)
• At least one New to Horizon car
• Whilst for the regular playlist cars, the possibilities include
  • At least one New to Forza/New to Horizon car
  • The possibility of a car that was unearthed from the Horizon Vault can occur, although rarely
  • The rest are average recycles

Car packs though might be a wild card. I can't imagine a British Automotive pack coming out on Series 5.

Take note, once both expansions come out, that's when PGG literally goes all out and adds way more New to Forza/New to Horizon cars. As soon as we got Horizon Midnights (after the Rally Adventure expansion), we got a playlist of all New to Forza cars.

 

[Digolgrin]

From what I've noticed, under the perspective of a Free-to-play player, PGG's slowly upping their game when it comes to selecting which recycled cars, as I'd like to call it to add. I've come up with these categories that I use to determine the "quality of choice" when assessing recycled cars.

• New to Forza - These cars were never before seen in a Forza game, at all.
• New to Horizon - These cars are last seen in either FM23, FM7, FM6, FM5 and the 360-era Forza Motorsport games, but have never appeared over the past 2 Horizon games
• Unearthed from the Horizon Vault - These cars are last seen in either FH4, FH3, FH2 or FH1 (use it as "cars that were unearthed from the Horizon Vault")
• Average Recycle - These cars were already seen in FH5's endgame car list, or should have been in Day 1

So far, we had the following as New to Horizon cars in FH6:

• 1969 Datsun 2000 Spyder (Series 1 - Last seen in FM23)
• 1984 De Tomaso Pantera GT5 (Series 3 - Last seen in FM23)
• 2006 Dodge RAM SRT-10 (Series 2 - Last seen in FM4)
• 2022 Lamborghini Huracan Evo Spyder (Series 3 - Last seen in FM23)
• 2008 Mazda Furai (Series 1 - Last seen in FM23)
• 1993 Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau (Series 2 - Last seen in FM23)

Compared with FH5's amount of New to Horizon cars over its first three updates (only the DeLorean DMC-12), FH6 is a big spike in New to Horizon quantity.

The way I see their current formula, a typical playlist will include, in a minimum of 5:

• New to Forza Spotlight Car (the 80 point rewards)
• At least one New to Horizon car
• Whilst for the regular playlist cars, the possibilities include
  • At least one New to Forza/New to Horizon car
  • The possibility of a car that was unearthed from the Horizon Vault can occur, although rarely
  • The rest are average recycles

Car packs though might be a wild card. I can't imagine a British Automotive pack coming out on Series 5.

Take note, once both expansions come out, that's when PGG literally goes all out and adds way more New to Forza/New to Horizon cars. As soon as we got Horizon Midnights (after the Rally Adventure expansion), we got a playlist of all New to Forza cars.

Ooooh, this analysis is amazing, thanks. I'll have to keep this in mind for the final prediction in September.

...that being said, why not count the Celica as New-to-Horizon? That thing last appeared in FM4.