Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

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I bought new PC and 1 month GPU.
Installed FH6 and it works perfectly with DualSenseX software.

But problem is FM23, there is conflict between keyboard and gamepad. I made a video:



Tried three additional drivers, but no improvement.
 
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zaxs
I bought new PC and 1 month GPU.
Installed FH6 and it works perfectly with DualSenseX software.

But problem is FM23, there is conflict between keyboard and gamepad. I made a video:



Tried three additional drivers, but no improvement.
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If you're using it wired, try using it wireless and see if it works correctly. I believe adaptive triggers and vibration won't work though.
 
Nikkolaz
If you're using it wired, try using it wireless and see if it works correctly. I believe adaptive triggers and vibration won't work though
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I'm using it wired all the way.

I solved it today by strict following these steps + installed official PS drivers:

 
whannel
XBOX have moved their player feedback from Reddit's r/xboxinsiders weekly requests voting post, over to the more permanent Feedback Portal on Microsoft's website under XBOX Player Voice within the past few weeks in a bid to show they will listen to gamers.

There's quite a number of pages of Forza Motorsport related posts already, mainly saying similar things so perhaps they'll merge them, but for now each can be upvoted to show support, commented on, and followed:


Examples include;

97 votes - Forza Motorsport Deserves Ongoing Support
"Please don’t abandon Forza Motorsport. The game still has so much potential. Keep releasing new events and tracks, continue improving the gameplay, and focus on meaningful bug fixes. Forza Motorsport is a fantastic franchise loved by many players, and it deserves continued support and development."

77 votes - Forza Motorsport franchise
"Recenty, Turn 10 Stuidos suffered layoffs which as resulted in them becoming a support studio going forward for Playground Games on the Forza Horizon franchise. This is fine but shouldn't result in Forza Motorsport being shelved. Please reinvest resources back into Turn 10 Studios, so they can continue to developing more installments of Forza Motorsport in the future. With the release of Forza Horizon 6, the next Forza game should be Forza Motorsport as this has been the case since 2012 when the first Forza Horizon was first introduced. The Forza Motorsport IP doesn't deserve to be shelved, please support it"

66 votes - Forza Motorsport support
"Return of Forza Motorsport support!"

The main requests overall are for EXCLUSIVES, Make Online Multiplayer Free To Access and for a focus on more Backwards Compatible titles which are the main popular ones that show up first, but with a bit of searching or using the filers at the side loads of other ideas and causes can be found to show your support - hopefully together we can all spread the word about Motorsport support.

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Left feedback on multiple threads and upvoted them - then got blocked! What gives??
 
Lol I'm sure 100 votes will make a difference, you know you're screwed when you have less fans than people working on the game
 
When I first played the game back in 2023, it wasn't long before I uninstalled it because of the woefully bad state it was in at launch. Decided to give it a second go-around when hearing of how much the game has improved since then. It's in a much better place now than what it was back then. I've actually been having fun getting back into it.

But now I'm also gravely disappointed because of Microsoft's decision to pull the plug on the game just when the game was starting to come around. I feel like there was so much left on the table with this one.
 
They didn't pull the plug on the game, it's just on the sidelines for a while. Hopefully when Horizon is in a good state they'll start trinkling in a few updates to Motorsport.
 
I really hope so, but the moves Microsoft has made with the layoffs and whatnot does not instill much confidence. That whole statement reads like they're keeping the game on life support until they no longer want to keep the servers up.

If that does indeed become the end of Motorsport, then that's a bloody shame. Keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't and my gut feeling is wrong.
 
Need to see what I can do to spice things up a little for the game. Recently, I've been setting up my own endurance races. It was so nice getting to race on Silverstone again, same with Sebring.

Completed some tours on the side too.
 
This game is three years old and based on Microsoft's history, has one year and a couple of months before delisting Oct. 10, 2027. And that's all, folks.
 
GTvsForza
They didn't pull the plug on the game, it's just on the sidelines for a while. Hopefully when Horizon is in a good state they'll start trinkling in a few updates to Motorsport.
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It will need to be done by PG then because Turn 10 has 5 (FIVE) employees:
www.turn10studios.com

Team | Turn 10 Studios

The official website of Turn 10 Studios, the creators of the Forza Racing franchise
www.turn10studios.com

There is NOTHING to evidence that anything will happen to FM23 except for eventual delisting and, later on, going offline.

The buried statement tucked away in the article last year made no indication of ANY further work to be done.

Turn 10 are, in my opinion, existing until the FH6 port to PS5 is complete and then will be wound down shortly thereafter.

PG's team are occupied working on FH6 are FH6 DLC and are not likely to be reallocated to a "dead" game not making what MS consider to be sufficient earnings.
 
sirjim73
It will need to be done by PG then because Turn 10 has 5 (FIVE) employees:
www.turn10studios.com

Team | Turn 10 Studios

The official website of Turn 10 Studios, the creators of the Forza Racing franchise
www.turn10studios.com

There is NOTHING to evidence that anything will happen to FM23 except for eventual delisting and, later on, going offline.

The buried statement tucked away in the article last year made no indication of ANY further work to be done.

Turn 10 are, in my opinion, existing until the FH6 port to PS5 is complete and then will be wound down shortly thereafter.

PG's team are occupied working on FH6 are FH6 DLC and are not likely to be reallocated to a "dead" game not making what MS consider to be sufficient earnings.
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Heck, if FM23 goes offline... who knows what kinda mods could be made for it?
;)
 
sirjim73
It will need to be done by PG then because Turn 10 has 5 (FIVE) employees:
www.turn10studios.com

Team | Turn 10 Studios

The official website of Turn 10 Studios, the creators of the Forza Racing franchise
www.turn10studios.com

There is NOTHING to evidence that anything will happen to FM23 except for eventual delisting and, later on, going offline.

The buried statement tucked away in the article last year made no indication of ANY further work to be done.

Turn 10 are, in my opinion, existing until the FH6 port to PS5 is complete and then will be wound down shortly thereafter.

PG's team are occupied working on FH6 are FH6 DLC and are not likely to be reallocated to a "dead" game not making what MS consider to be sufficient earnings.
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The writing was on the wall when Microsoft laid off half of the staff and consolidated whatever remained of the team into Playground Games to work on Horizon. That was the moment you knew where this was headed.

Horizon will be the only Forza game going forward, I'm afraid. The sad reality is companies like Microsoft value profit margins over the little things that matter most. Games nowadays cost millions/billions of dollars to make, and you know companies like Microsoft want to recoup those losses. They want to see to it that their projects can grow & be profitable. If it doesn't meet those expectations....well, it gets canned. We've seen it with Anthem, I'm sure it's happened to other games, and now we're seeing it with Motorsport.

Ultimately, the blame falls on the shoulders of Microsoft. Shady business practices such as hiring devs on an 18-month cycle, the alleged decision to scrap the game mid-development and force the team to recycle old content despite promises of delivering something "built from the ground up", and then desperately trying whatever they could to sweep just how bad of a state the game was at launch under the rug rather than own up to it. It's no wonder that this game was doomed before it got a chance to get on the runway.

I'll give the devs who actually put in the work to improve the game credit, they're the ones who deserve respect. They did everything they could to salvage this game for us. Granted, it was never going to be able to live up to the hype marketed around it. The damage was already done, but the fact of the matter is, the work they put into this resulted in a game that feels so much better than it did initially. Did it still need work? Absolutely, but with enough time & effort, there's no doubt in my mind it would've gotten better as more content was added and further improvements were made to the overall player experience.

But unfortunately, that's not going to happen because the corporate suits running the bean counters have deemed Motorsport to be a failure not worth keeping around. To them, Horizon is the franchise's money-maker. Corporate greed killed this series.
 
sirjim73
It will need to be done by PG then because Turn 10 has 5 (FIVE) employees:
www.turn10studios.com

Team | Turn 10 Studios

The official website of Turn 10 Studios, the creators of the Forza Racing franchise
www.turn10studios.com

There is NOTHING to evidence that anything will happen to FM23 except for eventual delisting and, later on, going offline.

The buried statement tucked away in the article last year made no indication of ANY further work to be done.

Turn 10 are, in my opinion, existing until the FH6 port to PS5 is complete and then will be wound down shortly thereafter.

PG's team are occupied working on FH6 are FH6 DLC and are not likely to be reallocated to a "dead" game not making what MS consider to be sufficient earnings.
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According to this site, the Turn 10 team consists of a...

Media Lead
Media licensing manager
Accessibility Development Lead
Principal Producer
Publishing Producer


I see no holes in this stacked studio. I am surprised they haven't remade all the games in Forza's entire catalog, with a team this large.

Jokes aside, this slaps of Spin-off. Too bad the website leads you into a Bio, and the only way back is to return to the "Team" page, via the menu. Back button be damned!
 
GTvsForza
I'm just hopeful. Motorsport has been my favorite racer second to GT. I don't know what I would do if they're never coming back.
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Same here, they've been my second go-to for track style racing. I don't have the luxury of keeping up with PC gaming, so I don't get to fully enjoy the other titles and the others that are around unfortunately don't quite hit the same for me, nor do they offer a roster of vehicles on the same level as GT & Forza.

I am also concerned on how this is going to affect GT in the long-term. Both of these series in the past have complimented well off of one another. Having alternatives on the table is what drives innovation. With Motorsport out of the picture, GT doesn't really have anyone that's on the same level as them as far as track racing on console goes. Lack of competition breeds complacency, and that's what I'm worried may happen to GT, as it has with many companies who have gained an iron grip on a particular industry.
 
Well, the new job cuts recently announced at Xbox just sealed FM's fate. Forza Horizon brings the bacon home, not the franchise that birthed it, and we the players ultimately decided that, together with their own compounded mistakes.

Apart from playing GT7 (now more occasionally than regularly) my other hopes lie on PC with ACE, and maybe Automobilista 2 when their career mode goes live.

I really hope that its Japanese assets of Fujimi Kaido and Hakone can be rescued and used in FH6.
 
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Blaming the game’s failure in the marketplace completely on the highly unpopular progression system is reductive. There’s a lot more to it than just that. But the progression system was touted as a feature of the game, and people actively hated it.

It’s like Chris Esaki didn’t have it playtested outside of the Turn 10 devs. As released, it would take three hours of grinding to unlock all the aftermarket parts for just one car. People have lives. They have jobs or go to school. They have family and friends. They have interests outside the house, like going to the beach or going for a hike or seeing a movie.

As beautiful and enjoyable as the racing was, the game required you to dedicate your life to it, and players said “Nope.”
 
Populuxe
Blaming the game’s failure in the marketplace completely on the highly unpopular progression system is reductive. There’s a lot more to it than just that. But the progression system was touted as a feature of the game, and people actively hated it.

It’s like Chris Esaki didn’t have it playtested outside of the Turn 10 devs. As released, it would take three hours of grinding to unlock all the aftermarket parts for just one car. People have lives. They have jobs or go to school. They have family and friends. They have interests outside the house, like going to the beach or going for a hike or seeing a movie.

As beautiful and enjoyable as the racing was, the game required you to dedicate your life to it, and players said “Nope.”
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I'm thankful they at least had the sense to acknowledge how flawed the progression system was and did away with it. I get what they were trying to go for. I mean, the NFS Underground games had a progression system that unlocked parts as you progressed through career mode. It worked in those games because not only did you have something to work towards as you were working your way up in the world, but once you unlocked them, you were free to purchase them. It made sense.

But in Motorsport, you were required to level up each individual car in order to unlock parts. There was no tie-in to career mode whatsoever that made any sense. Hell, career mode didn't even have what you'd call progression in a traditional sense. There was no story for you to play through, there were no organized leagues for you to dip your toes in. It was just a bunch of tours thrown together, and in every single one where you had to acquire a new car to participate, you were starting with a bone stock car.

There was no real sense of achievment. It felt more like you were starting back at square one. That was one major factor that turned me off during my first playthrough.
 
Nacho Libre
Well, the new job cuts recently announced at Xbox just sealed FM's fate. Forza Horizon brings the bacon home, not the franchise that birthed it, and we the players ultimately decided that, together with their own compounded mistakes.

Apart from playing GT7 (now more occasionally than regularly) my other hopes lie on PC with ACE, and maybe Automobilista 2 when their career mode goes live.

I really hope that its Japanese assets of Fujimi Kaido and Hakone can be rescued and used in FH6.
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I'm so mad they destroyed FM and gave everything to FH.
Forza Motorsport is their main brand alongside with Gears and Halo.
But Sharma knows better
 
zaxs
I'm so mad they destroyed FM and gave everything to FH.
Forza Motorsport is their main brand alongside with Gears and Halo.
But Sharma knows better
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Horizon has been the main brand for a long time now. Motorsport is/was the niche spinoff.
Open worlds are the thing now, much like digital over physical. The userbase has spoken.
 
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Forgive me for asking this, but don't Amish people hate modern technology? From what I've seen, they prefer to do things manually.
 
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