Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

[nukleabomb]

Seems like this is it.

Shinobi602 is supposed to be a reliable leaker.

 

[meganinja]

We can blame Phil all we want, but it's Satya who's forcing the headcount reductions, and each business group has to come up with the numbers to layoff.
It's a pretty terrible way to run a business, I went through 2 rounds (in the Office org) before I left on my own, but it's incredibly stressful living in a state of uncertainty around your employment, especially when these layoffs come up every 3-6months, with no end in sight, makes me glad I didn't get a transfer when I moved back home.

I do agree with you, its all Satya that is calling the shots, they are doing company wide-cuts beacuse Satya wants keep his AI pet project alive as much possible even if everyone considers failule, even if burns the entire company down

Seems like this is it.

a guy that doesnt work since 2016 isnt a reliable source, like i told, maybe they send all T10 update work to PG (if wasnt already)
also, as i told, we knew that we wont be getting a new FM until 2030s, the focus is in update this one we have now and until they say oherwise, the focus will continue so

until i see a forza net post saying otherwise i wont belive anything it is said online, beacue there has lots of doom and gloom about this game since its launch

 

[Forzilla]

They go from making 1 game ever 2 years to now just a support team for Forza Horizon? That is very depressing to see. I like Forza Horizon but I much prefer Motorsport.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

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[meganinja]

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por favor leia a thread antes de postar coisas repetidas...
(please read the thread before post repeat things...)

 

[sirjim73]

I do feel it will be important for T10 to release some kind of statement fairly quickly about the future of FM23, even if it just says "future updates are planned" (assuming they are - that's part of the difficulty right now, no one knows anything publicly).

I am sure they are busy dealing with the impact of the redundancies etc, and that of course takes time and priority, but the longer they leave it, the more these "FoRzA MoTorSpOrt Is DeAd" rumours will take hold.

If there is no statement from T10, people are inevitably going to assume the worst.

My instinct is that there will be a few new cars but nothing else new, for a while and then those will cease around end of 2025 when they start to build up to FH6. With the prior Tours being dripfed into the game permanently.

PS As they already announced a new "Forza" game for 2026, I think we can now assume it's definitely not going to be FM26?

 

[Nacho Libre]

I do feel it will be important for T10 to release some kind of statement fairly quickly about the future of FM23, even if it just says "future updates are planned" (assuming they are - that's part of the difficulty right now, no one knows anything publicly).

I am sure they are busy dealing with the impact of the redundancies etc, and that of course takes time and priority, but the longer they leave it, the more these "FoRzA MoTorSpOrt Is DeAd" rumours will take hold.

If there is no statement from T10, people are inevitably going to assume the worst.

My instinct is that there will be a few new cars but nothing else new, for a while and then those will cease around end of 2025 when they start to build up to FH6. With the prior Tours being dripfed into the game permanently.

PS As they already announced a new "Forza" game for 2026, I think we can now assume it's definitely not going to be FM26?

Well, if they really want a new Forza (ahem, Horizon) in 2026, their work would've immediately shifted to the development of such. However, that statement was vague at best (announcement? launch date?), so my expectation is that FH is a 2027 game, considering that this internal reorganization will cause delays.

 

[AttackDickie]

I wouldn't be surprised if Fujimi Kaido was only made possible due to PG troops taking over. After all, PG needs the new game engine for FH6, and probably had to fix a bunch of stuff to get it there.

"For the return of Fujimi Kaido in the modern era, we knew we wanted to bring it into the 21st century. Therefore, the team traveled to Hakone for a 10-day photoshoot." "We’ve created something the entire studio is incredibly proud of."

Designing A Legendary Track: The Artistry Behind Fujimi Kaido

Fujimi Kaido is a storied, fan favorite track in the Forza Motorsport community. Go behind the scenes and discover how we're bringing back these legendary Japanese mountain roads with a modern look and feel.

forza.net

 

[whannel]

How long does it take to make a new track? Or convert an existing one into a new update format, if say three or four people are working on that?

They said their engine was designed to be easy to modify although I'm not sure if they ever did, surely if a couple of other people work on that they could get it feeling every bit as good as other sims?

Imagine they can port cars over from Horizon with a few clicks.

Keep a few more improving the AI and I don't think I'd notice anyone missing, although I'd have concentrated on the handling and AI before launch if I was in charge.

Think AI already do some of the promo?

 

[meganinja]

I am sure they are busy dealing with the impact of the redundancies etc, and that of course takes time and priority, but the longer they leave it, the more these "FoRzA MoTorSpOrt Is DeAd" rumours will take hold.

If there is no statement from T10, people are inevitably going to assume the worst.

the last social media posts was on the day before the layoffs, the only thing since them was the scheduled update, intresting i saw on patch notes that this update was server-sided, so it means that there has people still working on the game at certain degree even after the layoffs and likely the silence is to avoid people mass posting asking for explanations

i think that we wont hear anything this week considering today is friday, but early next week we will hear what the future holds for us

PS As they already announced a new "Forza" game for 2026, I think we can now assume it's definitely not going to be FM26?

everyone knew that is going to be Horizon 6 beacuse it is the oldest of the 2 and was even suposed to come out this year

Well, if they really want a new Forza (ahem, Horizon) in 2026, their work would've immediately shifted to the development of such. However, that statement was vague at best (announcement? launch date?), so my expectation is that FH is a 2027 game

Phil said that FH6 would come next year as part of XBOX 25 celebrations
also, as people mentioned here, work likely has going on for a certain time already, i assume it started as soon they finshed the last FH5 DLC

How long does it take to make a new track? Or convert an existing one into a new update format, if say three or four people are working on that?

They said their engine was designed to be easy to modify although I'm not sure if they ever did, surely if a couple of other people work on that they could get it feeling every bit as good as other sims?

Imagine they can port cars over from Horizon with a few clicks.

before even the layoffs, we had PG staff helping with FM to a certain degree, remember, we had found FM-exclusive cars being leaked thru FH5 files

car scan is done by third parties usually and the teams only convert those to the game
the team that was doing FH5 updates, if they still are on PG, could easly pick up and add new cars as time goes by
but, i dont see new tracks anytime soon unless suddenly MS decides to hire again (that i think it is unlikely now considering that satya wants the opposite so he can finance its silly ai pet project...)

 

[Nacho Libre]

Phil said that FH6 would come next year as part of XBOX 25 celebrations

I'll never believe again anything that he says.

 

[Famine]

Phil said that FH6 would come next year as part of XBOX 25 celebrations

He said, twice, "the next Forza". We still don't know what that means.

 

[deththrasher]

He said, twice, "the next Forza". We still don't know what that means.

Well it sure as hell won't be a new Motorsport game

 

[Famine]

Well it sure as hell won't be a new Motorsport game

A point I made elsewhere. However "not Motorsport" != "Horizon".

 

[AttackDickie]

So not "My First Forza Motorsport" with Xbox trying their best to give an old game a new lease of life? 😭

 

[deththrasher]

A point I made elsewhere. However "not Motorsport" != "Horizon".

Forza Boat racing perhaps?

 

[Famine]

Forza Boat racing perhaps?

Who knows? That'd only be one mode of transport shy of The Crew, after all...

There has, of course, been a third Forza title before, and there's no reason why it couldn't be that or something new, without needing to go aquatic though.

Either way, he was no more specific than "the next Forza", and used that exact phrase twice...

 

[Nacho Libre]

So not "My First Forza Motorsport" with Xbox trying their best to give an old game a new lease of life? 😭

I see what you did there... But it will be Forznite, mark my words.

 

[deththrasher]

Who knows? That'd only be one mode of transport shy of The Crew, after all...

There has, of course, been a third Forza title before, and there's no reason why it couldn't be that or something new, without needing to go aquatic though.

Either way, he was no more specific than "the next Forza", and used that exact phrase twice...

It'll be Horizon 6, that's the bread and butter. MS won't take risks in creating a new spin off, they'll play it safe and give the fans what they want. Horizon 6 in Japan.

 

[ArronWestley]

It'll be Horizon 6, that's the bread and butter. MS won't take risks in creating a new spin off, they'll play it safe and give the fans what they want. Horizon 6 in Japan.

Can't wait for all the "Japanglish" lines and all the Japanese cars clearly not modelled from JDM scans.

 

[skazz]

Who knows? That'd only be one mode of transport shy of The Crew, after all...

There has, of course, been a third Forza title before, and there's no reason why it couldn't be that or something new, without needing to go aquatic though.

Either way, he was no more specific than "the next Forza", and used that exact phrase twice...

They haven't made a "Forza" title for mobile for a long time now... Forza Street was such a delightful pile of steaming garbage ...surprise... when it turned up.

You've got me worried that Microsoft will outsource the Forza Motorsport franchise to a 3rd party mobile dev team. Forza Motorsport for Mobile sounds just about right doesn't it?

 

[Famine]

It'll be Horizon 6, that's the bread and butter. MS won't take risks in creating a new spin off, they'll play it safe and give the fans what they want. Horizon 6 in Japan.

And again you're arguing the wrong thing with the wrong person.

I was pointing out - again - that Phil Spencer didn't say "FH6" as cited in the post I originally quoted. He said "the next Forza", both in the stream and later on in an interview.

Microsoft Just Quietly Announced "the Next Forza" Game for 2026

Featured image courtesy of turk1993 Fans hoping to catch a first glimpse of Forza Horizon 6 were ultimately left disappointed in today's Xbox Games Showcase, but there was a nugget of Forza franchise news as "the next Forza" was confirmed for 2026. The game debuts came and went without so much

www.gtplanet.net

 

[deththrasher]

And again you're arguing the wrong thing with the wrong person.

I was pointing out - again - that Phil Spencer didn't say "FH6" as cited in the post I originally quoted. He said "the next Forza", both in the stream and later on in an interview.

Microsoft Just Quietly Announced "the Next Forza" Game for 2026

Featured image courtesy of turk1993 Fans hoping to catch a first glimpse of Forza Horizon 6 were ultimately left disappointed in today's Xbox Games Showcase, but there was a nugget of Forza franchise news as "the next Forza" was confirmed for 2026. The game debuts came and went without so much

www.gtplanet.net

But we all know what it will be lol. I think you just like arguing with people

 

[Johnny Caisse]

But we all know what it will be lol. I think you just like arguing with people

I wonder if Famine is more in the know than us. Oh well I'm not gonna push.

 

[Famine]

But we all know what it will be lol. I think you just like arguing with people

Again, you're arguing the toss in response to an accurate correction, over something that wasn't said.

What it will be, might be, won't be, we "know" (suspect) it will be isn't relevant. What's relevant is that Phil Spencer said, twice, "the next Forza" and not "FH6".

Look it up if you don't believe me. And when you've done that, stop pretending I've said anything different.

 

[meganinja]

So good and bad news from windows central


the good is that it looks that maaaaaaaybe updates can continue, the bad news is that no new forza motorsport game planned (but we all knew that) and it looks that T10 was streamlined with PG indeed

Windows Central's own sources, who remained anonymous due to lack of authorization to speak on the matter publicly, have said that there's currently no definitive "cancellation" of the series. It's understood it could return some day, but that Turn 10 for now will indeed focus on Forza Horizon.

Forza Motorsport's future doesn't look good following the grim week at Xbox — Turn 10 layoffs reportedly had a massive impact on any future for the franchise

Turn 10, the makers of Forza Motorsport, will be shifting to a support role for the Horizon series, which remains on track.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[ArronWestley]

So good and bad news from windows central


the good is that it looks that maaaaaaaybe updates can continue, the bad news is that no new forza motorsport game planned (but we all knew that) and it looks that T10 was streamlined with PG indeed

Forza Motorsport's future doesn't look good following the grim week at Xbox — Turn 10 layoffs reportedly had a massive impact on any future for the franchise

Turn 10, the makers of Forza Motorsport, will be shifting to a support role for the Horizon series, which remains on track.

www.windowscentral.com

These "sources" from WC are just PR talk, the studio was trimmed to the point it can't really walk on its own legs. They said there's no "definitive cancellation" because, as with all Microsoft-owned IPs, it can always come back in some form but, as seen with Perfect Dark (the supposed "AAAA" game to fight Sony with, I remember all the Xbox fanboy talk from back then, as I bled green at the time), there's zero guarantee it'll ever come back.

IMO, for now, with regards to Forza Motorsport, this is it. Like I said in the other thread, I was expecting this to eventually happen since 2018 and I had the feeling it would have happened even if FM didn't have its issues at release. FH ate through its userbase and FM became redundant in Microsoft's portfolio.

 

[meganinja]

These "sources" from WC are just PR talk

i dont think its just PR talk, i know they usually do sometimes, but i feel it is not the case
IMO is more trustful than a guy that isnt working on the studio for aruound 10 years throwing suppositions

 

[GTvsForza]

Hopefully we'll get an official post from Forza on Monday about what's next...

 

[Beezer215]

These "sources" from WC are just PR talk, the studio was trimmed to the point it can't really walk on its own legs. They said there's no "definitive cancellation" because, as with all Microsoft-owned IPs, it can always come back in some form but, as seen with Perfect Dark (the supposed "AAAA" game to fight Sony with, I remember all the Xbox fanboy talk from back then, as I bled green at the time), there's zero guarantee it'll ever come back.

IMO, for now, with regards to Forza Motorsport, this is it. Like I said in the other thread, I was expecting this to eventually happen since 2018 and I had the feeling it would have happened even if FM didn't have its issues at release. FH ate through its userbase and FM became redundant in Microsoft's portfolio.

And there's absolutely nothing to substantiate your claim here. The studio of Turn 10 still has more employees than Reiza and they're doing fine with AMS2. The studio still has more employees than Straight4 and they're making Project Motor Racing. The studio still has more employees than Kunos and they're making Assetto Corsa Evo.
Who are you that we should believe such sensationalized claims?