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#109 Great Western Railway MINI Cooper S

Available in both Forza Horizon 5 and Forza Motorsport.

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willbsn13
https://www.windowscentral.com/gami...otorsport-players-deserve-answers-not-silence

Windows Central reporting on the Turn 10 radio silence now as well
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I wonder, at what point does silence start to damage the Forza Horizon brand by association (I don't think they care about the FM brand anymore, but they might still care about FH). I hope this keeps getting press in big sites like this, as I think that's our best chance of getting a response).

Imagine if they still havent said anything when they announce (assumed) FH6? I can imagine articles like this appearing the very next day or even the same day. They don't want people googling Forza and getting this instead of their FH6 article, surely?
 
Thank goodness. Forza Motorsport is not really dead, it's just that there's no new content (e.g. cars and tracks) other than returning tours.

But FOMO still persists, as the reward cars are only obtainable at least once. Once you sell them (even by accident), you cannot get them again even if you replay the tours.
 
GBalao888
Thank goodness. Forza Motorsport is not really dead, it's just that there's no new content (e.g. cars and tracks) other than returning tours.

But FOMO still persists, as the reward cars are only obtainable at least once. Once you sell them (even by accident), you cannot get them again even if you replay the tours.
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That's not FOMO anymore. "Deleting thing you can only get once" is just being an idiot, and you can be an idiot like that in many many games.
 
Beezer215
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Here's the link:
forza.net

Compete in the Track Toys Tour in Forza Motorsport

Play the Track Toys Tour today and look forward to the Ringer Tour in September.
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Good to see them acknowledging the situation and at least confirming continued support. My expectations are low and I would expect a new updated in September to simply add another few tours to come back. If we are lucky, they might add a new tour with a new car or 2 at some point. The last 2 updates have really improved the game a lot and I do enjoy me free play races thoroughly :)
 
Hasse 86
They say that T10 will continue to support FM, but all they shared here is that they'll continue to add previous tours back into the game. I think most people assumed continued support would include new content and there's no mention of that whatsoever.
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Did you think they were going to come out of the gates with 20 new cars and 5 new tracks after what just happened? Why don't we just take what we can get for now. I'm sure that some amount of content was being worked on before and while the downsize happened and it's going to probably have to find some new owners to be finished. At least this is positive.
 
Beezer215
Did you think they were going to come out of the gates with 20 new cars and 5 new tracks after what just happened? Why don't we just take what we can get for now. I'm sure that some amount of content was being worked on before and while the downsize happened and it's going to probably have to find some new owners to be finished. At least this is positive.
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Ofc I didn't think that would be the case 😉

I agree. This is at least a bit positive. Much better than radio silence. I'm just saying that all they shared is that they'll continue to add previous time-limited content back into FM and we've known that was happening since june.

But, like you said, there's probably some half-finished work in the pipeline that could possibly be added in the future, with a bit of luck.
 
Beezer215
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Here's the link:
forza.net

Compete in the Track Toys Tour in Forza Motorsport

Play the Track Toys Tour today and look forward to the Ringer Tour in September.
forza.net
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Well damn I went into reading this expecting a brief synopsis of what happened, how they will maneuver, a possible hint of anything NEW coming down the line, etc...nothing other than previous rewards and tours we already kind of knew were coming. I have a small bit of hope though as the months go by
 
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Nebuc72
That's not FOMO anymore. "Deleting thing you can only get once" is just being an idiot, and you can be an idiot like that in many many games.
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To be fair, a lot of games that have things you can get only once will prevent you from selling them or forbid you to sell them.
 
Is the part about continuing to support FH5 a hint at what's next?

For a current chart topper on PS5 surely it'd be guaranteed support.

Will we maybe see some kind of blend of the two in "the next Forza" as Phil Spencer worded it?

For me I'd have liked to have seen more tracks like Fuji Kaido added, but a more Horizon style game with handling more like Motorsport, perhaps better would maybe be a better choice for everyone looking for that?

It'd be nice if it was a 'Forza No Horizon' that went with what Flight Sim did five years ago and give us the world, but with roads if that could happen on the fly? Might be wishful thinking...
 
whannel
Is the part about continuing to support FH5 a hint at what's next?

For a current chart topper on PS5 surely it'd be guaranteed support.

Will we maybe see some kind of blend of the two in "the next Forza" as Phil Spencer worded it?

For me I'd have liked to have seen more tracks like Fuji Kaido added, but a more Horizon style game with handling more like Motorsport, perhaps better would maybe be a better choice for everyone looking for that?

It'd be nice if it was a 'Forza No Horizon' that went with what Flight Sim did five years ago and give us the world, but with roads if that could happen on the fly? Might be wishful thinking...
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I have a few car mods for Flight Sim. It works for the most part, but the terrain isn't meant for ground travel in some places. Have to slew around undrivable spots.
 
Nebuc72
That's not FOMO anymore. "Deleting thing you can only get once" is just being an idiot, and you can be an idiot like that in many many games.
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It's still FOMO regardless, and it punishes these idiots who delete them. Put it this way: you had your chance, but you threw it away, and there's no turning back.
 
Tired Tyres
Why would you ever delete a car from FM?
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A smaller garage makes it easier to choose cars in a time-limited scenario (like a lobby etc.).

I tend to keep a minimal garage, 1 car for every Class/Division I drive in. Get to know one car really well in order to be as fast as possible online.

In Forza Motorsport 7, the bigger your garage the higher your chances of the game crashing due to memory leak. It was a big thing early on as the garage would load the full Forzavista model and livery for every car you went to on the screen.
 
I really thinks that's the end unfortunately. As an insider, I can't sign in on forza website (error 404). As everyone else, absolutely no one from turn 10 Speaks to us...
 
I saw this video on Youtube last night. Quite a nice watch if you're a sim-racing nerd like me and like video essays. Hoki reflects on how FM is having issues finding it's place, ever since Forza Horizons inception.

For me, who plays on a wheel, the physics always feels a bit too dumbed down in FH, which always makes me return to FM. But I understand that the difference in feel between FM and FH isn't that big if you're a controller player.

Many of the fun challenges that used to be present in Motorsport games of old are now only present in the Horizon games. Motorsport is stuck in limbo, not being hardcore enough to please the sim-diehards and not charming and "fun" enough to appeal to casual racers.

At the same time GT7, despite all its flaws, still shows us that there is a niche for semi-serious track racers on console.

Anyway, Hoki expands more on these thoughts in the video. Give it a watch if you find this topic interesting 😊

 
Personally I feel that Horizon captured the whole driving around in tuned-up road cars side of Forza, giving it an open world and slightly more accessible physics was a great match. For me, having lost that side of the series Motorsport needed to be a bit more gutsy about the focus on motorsport, and I was disappointed when FM7 tried to mash together upgrades and motorsport into some horror show where a 1930s Bugatti had wide slicks and big power forced upon it to compete with cars it shouldn't be competing with.

I only started FM8 just before the addition of the Champion's Cup, but the Builder's Cup as it stands now is at least a better attempt at motorsports-ifying the upgrade system, with a limited budget that grows through the series. It lets itself down though by applying that upgrade system to the rest of the game too, and by performance-balancing the AI so upgrades aren't even needed to compete. The Champion's Cup is much more like I pictured the post-Horizon future of Motorsport to be, using the strength of the car list to give a long list of racecar-specific events with no arcadey upgrades. If they'd launched with that to begin with and focused on dethroning Grid 2019 and Grid Legends, for me at least it would have been a stronger product. It certainly would still be controversial to drop the road cars, but it's always felt inevitable to stop it feeling like a Horizon variant.
 
willbsn13
https://www.windowscentral.com/gami...otorsport-players-deserve-answers-not-silence

Windows Central reporting on the Turn 10 radio silence now as well
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Beezer215
View attachment 1470776

Here's the link:
forza.net

Compete in the Track Toys Tour in Forza Motorsport

Play the Track Toys Tour today and look forward to the Ringer Tour in September.
forza.net
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So, it took bad publicity for them to give enough of a crap to say they'll be continuing to add past FOMO events. Sigh. It's something. Not all that reassuring, but they've said something.
 
Dopplegagger
So, it took bad publicity for them to give enough of a crap to say they'll be continuing to add past FOMO events. Sigh. It's something. Not all that reassuring, but they've said something.
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They more or less have to return the remaining FOMO events as various cars are unobtainable currently. The thing I am not liking is their trying to spin this as something they are "adding" to the game. These tours were added and then removed. The only thing that is "new" in all this, is that they are now permanent WHICH THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

It was THEIR decision to make all the new tours FOMO.

They are just fixing a problem THEY made in the first place. I don't believe we should lose sight of that.

However, of course I'm still pleased to see them come back permanently.

But I do not see anything else coming other than these reinstated tours, personally.

One Tour per month means they can stretch this all out until about February 2028 before they run out of tours to readd.

Also, someone noted on the official forum that the statement refers to "continuing to support FM23 AND FH5". We know that just means recycling content for FH5. It's entirely plausible to infer that it means the same for FM23.
 

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