FRL - WSC X - THE 12th LE MANS CLASSIC TO FILO & ANDIL; THE CHAMPIONSHIPS TO JAMMY & SNOWGT!Finished 

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@Furinkazen - This so call GT-P BoP change seem to me it's more success balance 👎
I agreed with @Andil there isn't any advance to any car and performace was quite balance (good job Lancer 👍).
Cars handlles differently in different tracks.
In my tests before season Jag was first, then Ford and Ferrari was last. There's no big difference but little. I did tests on 5 track (if I remember right). I choose Ferrari because of the motor sound (over Jag).
You have two fast&good drives in Ferrari and they know how to tune&drive the car and now you wanna put us down 👎
That's my whining:yuck:
 
jammy21
@Furinkazen - This so call GT-P BoP change seem to me it's more success balance 👎
I agreed with @Andil there isn't any advance to any car and performace was quite balance (good job Lancer 👍).
Cars handlles differently in different tracks.
In my tests before season Jag was first, then Ford and Ferrari was last. There's no big difference but little. I did tests on 5 track (if I remember right). I choose Ferrari because of the motor sound (over Jag).
You have two fast&good drives in Ferrari and they know how to tune&drive the car and now you wanna put us down 👎
That's my whining:yuck:
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Lancer is the person who has made this BoP change... I was informed before Brands that this would be happening. I've not had anything to do with the testing.
 
jammy21
@Furinkazen - This so call GT-P BoP change seem to me it's more success balance 👎
I agreed with @Andil there isn't any advance to any car and performace was quite balance (good job Lancer 👍).
Cars handlles differently in different tracks.
In my tests before season Jag was first, then Ford and Ferrari was last. There's no big difference but little. I did tests on 5 track (if I remember right). I choose Ferrari because of the motor sound (over Jag).
You have two fast&good drives in Ferrari and they know how to tune&drive the car and now you wanna put us down 👎
That's my whining:yuck:
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Have the same problem with the GT-O's except they have no change which is just ridiculous and I can't see it ever being done.
 
FlyingFox
Have the same problem with the GT-O's except they have no change which is just ridiculous and I can't see it ever being done.
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Because they are even...? Just because you had a bad weekend at Brands you feel need to complain... Carb and Ettick were on pace and fine...

EDIT: And don't give me "Cobra OP" when all the GT-O's were together on Indy loop after 2 hours and Rofls 250 GTO and HSV's Alpine were fighting for the win.
 
FlyingFox
3 Shelby's in the top 5?
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If you are getting so silly about that:

3x Shelby
1x Ferrari
1x Plymouth
3x Corvettes
1x Alpine

Plymouth was running in Top 4 when DC'd. One Corvette DC'd (Carb), One Corvette was just off pace all weekend (you), and another was on the pace until I had a run in with it at Paddock and then it ended up in contact with another car (@Ettick).

Also laws of numbers say the Shelbys and Corvettes were most likely. I can guarentee if @hsv and @gokartman78 were in Ferrari's you'd complaining Ferrari OP.

FlyingFox
After this week there won't be any Corvette's in the top 5
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Not that one I cannot figure out, I mean this week you'll be pleased to know just 2 Shelbys this week and 1 at HSR!



If anyone can't keep there car on the road, that isn't really my issue. But to start crying after 2 weeks of 15, because everyone finished a lap ahead, is ridiculous. N24 is next, be better to spend more time preparing for that.
 
Furinkazen
If anyone can't keep there car on the road, that isn't really my issue. But to start crying after 2 weeks of 15, because everyone finished a lap ahead, is ridiculous. N24 is next, be better to spend more time preparing for that.
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I did PM you about the Corvette's issues but you obviously did not look at it hence the above comment.

One day you'll get it.
 
FlyingFox
I did PM you about the Corvette's issues but you obviously did not look at it hence the above comment.

One day you'll get it.
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I forwarded to to @snowgt actually who sent me pretty much a full analysis of each car from tires to fuel use. BTW:

- Avg. Best 10 Laps:
Smuffy 1:34,628
Roflwaffle 1:34,774
Ettick 1:34,891

0.2 off best car, and only behind a Cobra and Ferrari...
 
Hey, the Alpine was the slowest car by a long way at both La Sarthe and Brands, but I almost won at one of them and only missed a podium in the other because I binned it once and messed my strategy up. All the cars look equal in my book - what some lose in one-lap pace, they make up for in stint lengths, and those that are quick over one lap naturally have tyre wear and stint length issues. I actually binned the Alpine just before my stop at Brands - and I had a poor first half of the race. There's nothing to suggest that any other car putting in a clean, trouble-free run wouldn't be able to topple a Cobra.
 
I cant really see the problem. At le mans carb caught, passed and then pulled away. I got lucky with the le mans win as rofle (who was over a second faster than both the cobra and corvette) was missing an carb dc'd.

And the cobra won at potentially its best track (brands).
 
hsv
Hey, the Alpine was the slowest car by a long way at both La Sarthe and Brands, but I almost won at one of them and only missed a podium in the other because I binned it once and messed my strategy up. All the cars look equal in my book - what some lose in one-lap pace, they make up for in stint lengths, and those that are quick over one lap naturally have tyre wear and stint length issues. I actually binned the Alpine just before my stop at Brands - and I had a poor first half of the race. There's nothing to suggest that any other car putting in a clean, trouble-free run wouldn't be able to topple a Cobra.
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Ironically it's the reverse issue in GT-P, the Ferrari has that much better tyre management that the Ford is needed to be a bit faster over a Lap than the others. It's the opposite philosophy of Toca speaking, 1-lap pace isn't everything here.
 
So change has done base on Sarthe 2005? That's not the good track to compare BoP...
Your series - your rules.
Furinkazen
Lancer is the person who has made this BoP change... I was informed before Brands that this would be happening. I've not had anything to do with the testing.
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jammy21
So change has done base on Sarthe 2005? That's not the good track to compare BoP...
Your series - your rules.
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I was informed before Brands that BoP would be reviewed post Brands. Next BoP review will be at the next gap week. Also of note, if I see anything I take a significant dislike to I will adjust it as needed. I actually though Lancer had made a typo in the specs until he sent it again.

Personally I don't think it will be that big a difference. Next couple weeks will be interesting. N24 is anyone's guess. HSR is Ford for top end speed (if what happens BoP wise for my predictions come true), but it's tyres will wear a little more. Ferrari will have the full on grip and acceleration and get up to speed quicker. Of course N24 has weather which is anybodies game as well.
 
Furinkazen
The Ferrari has that much better tyre management that the Ford is needed to be a bit faster over a Lap than the others.
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I don't really "care" as I'm not here next Sunday to race, but thought I'd pick up on this again.

Numerically the Ferrari has better tyre management, i.e. it will run to 7 on all tyres while Fords might be on 6 all round.

However we saw pretty clearly that on pace it made no difference - in fact the Fords were quicker by that stage of the race!

So making Fords quicker over a stint makes no sense to me. I built up a 6-7sec lead over you (Furi) at BHGP, and by the end of my stint that gap was down to 2-3 seconds, and I hadn't made any mistakes or taken any damage. So what advantage is there? If I'd carried on and done a 2-stopper instead of 3-stopper, I'm certain you'd have caught me.
 
Andil
I don't really "care" as I'm not here next Sunday to race, but thought I'd pick up on this again.

Numerically the Ferrari has better tyre management, i.e. it will run to 7 on all tyres while Fords might be on 6 all round.

However we saw pretty clearly that on pace it made no difference - in fact the Fords were quicker by that stage of the race!

So making Fords quicker over a stint makes no sense to me. I built up a 6-7sec lead over you (Furi) at BHGP, and by the end of my stint that gap was down to 2-3 seconds, and I hadn't made any mistakes or taken any damage. So what advantage is there? If I'd carried on and done a 2-stopper instead of 3-stopper, I'm certain you'd have caught me.
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End of the day, only one way to find out though isn't there? If anythings a mistake or skews it, we find out on the track. Also you back for HSR?
 
jammy21
I agreed with @Andil there isn't any advance to any car and performace was quite balance (good job Lancer 👍).
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If the Ford wore its tires on par with the other cars it would've been perfect, honestly.
jammy21
In my tests before season Jag was first, then Ford and Ferrari was last. There's no big difference but little. I did tests on 5 track (if I remember right). I choose Ferrari because of the motor sound (over Jag).
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Mind sending me the setups you used? I get the complete opposite results when I test.
jammy21
You have two fast&good drives in Ferrari and they know how to tune&drive the car and now you wanna put us down 👎
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How do you think me and @raceorama123432 felt last season?
Furinkazen
I was informed before Brands that this would be happening.
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You were informed before Brands that I would be doing further testing after Brands.
 
Furinkazen
Penalise someone for doing well, right...
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What like they do in BTCC and no one complains about THAT!! If that's the case then yes BUT as stated above it evens the field out.

Alex you're becoming more and more impossible to reason with. You just can't see the big picture.
 
FlyingFox
No BHP BoP
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Didn't we have this idea a while back elsewhere? Also totally track dependant, if it's a track with long straights you may as well not bother. If it's a twisty circuit it's moot point. There's a reason no-one does this idea.

Also I am not hearing complaints from any other GT-O drivers, GUYS, GUYS??


Also worth noting... this isn't first time you've complained, but this is first time you've legitimately got no reason. I actually lost track of why... just because you were last and messed up the set up doesn't mean everyone else should suffer. No 1 GT-O has dominated either.
 
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