Gallardo Superleggera

[Poverty]

Taken from GermanCarFans

Lamborghini Gallardo "Superleggera" Geneva Sneak Preview: 10hp more, 100 kg less

530Hp, 1.330kg and 0-100km/h in 3,8 sec: that’s the Gallardo “Superleggera” is in a nutshell. Unlike our previous post on the Opel Agila, the “Superleggera” is a done deal; this souped-up lightweight Gallardo will make its appearance at the Geneva Show. We had been tipped about this one but we didn’t have any photos to go with it until now that is, thanks to a “paparazzi” at Supercar Forums who posted a scanned image of the car from Quattroruote magazine.

Source: CarScoop

 

[Tornado]

So, is there a legitimate chance that the car will not suck anymore now that it doesn't weigh 8 tons? I hope it is RWD.

 

[Jim Prower]

100 KG less? that's impressive!

 

[Philly]

It doesn't seem like that much of an improvement, but in that market you take anything you can get. I'm looking forward to a legitimate Gallardo.

 

[inferno]

10 more horsepower? why bother? give it 30 more hp and yeah.

The weight reduction on the other hand is a huge inprovement. But, i quite like awd lamborghinis. It's their biggest selling point, to me. So i hope it is still awd.

 

[YSSMAN]

* yawn *

Its the same thing we've seen time and time again.

Lamborghini Rep: Here we have the all-new Gallardo Superleggera. We added a few things and took a few things out, but you're getting 10 more horsepower for $40K more. So can I get you to make a down-payment?

Me: Wait, didn't you guys do two special edition models like this last year?

Lamborghini Rep: Uhhhh, no. They weren't special. They weren't the Superleggera...

Me: So whats so "super" about the Superleggera?

Lamborghini Rep: Well, you see...

Me: No, I don't see. You guys have never been able to match the F430, the 911 Turbo wiped the floor with you guys, and you're a joke over in Detroit against the Z06 and the SRT-10. And even then, you've got the Audi Gallardo, I mean R8, right on your tail as well...

Lamborghini Rep: Well, they aren't Lamborghinis now are they?

Me: No, but the Gallardo isn't either. Throw four rings in the grille and you got yourself an Audi. I think I'll save some money and buy a Z06 and a XKR...

 

[Philly]

Maybe you should write a comedy about car dealers!

 

[YSSMAN]

...That may be a good one for the Cars in General Threads...

Lamborghini Rep: So you're back again, huh?

Me: Who me?

Lamborghini Rep: Yeah, I knew you couldn't resist the Superleggera.

Me: Didn't I make it clear how much this car doesn't matter to me?

Lamborghini Rep: Yeah, but I can't take 'no' for an answer. I work for Audi you know... We're always right...

Me: Did you just say you worked for Audi?

Lamborghini Rep: Me? Ummm. Yes. I mean No. I mean...

Me: Ha! I gotcha!

Lamborghini Rep: Damn. You got me... Maybe I could interest you in a Murciélago?

Me: Whatever append to the Superleggera?

Lamborghini Rep: Oh that? We'll, they aren't special anymore. We're already on the next model, the Gallardo Super-Dee-Duper-SE-Black Edition.

Me: Who came up with that name?

Lamborghini Rep: Uhhh... I gotta go...

 

[Philly]

Better still!👍

I agree, though. Let's see just how long this lasts. Maybe we'll get that suder duper Silver edition limited Italian Red versoin coming up soon. oohhh. Can't wait.

 

[Tornado]

You guys have never been able to match the 360 Modena, the 911 Turbo wiped the floor with you guys, and you're a joke over in Detroit against the Z06 and the SRT-10.

Fixed.

 

[zoxxy]

Fixed.

Thank God!

 

[Eric.]

So, is there a legitimate chance that the car will not suck anymore now that it doesn't weigh 8 tons? I hope it is RWD.

I think they announced that all future Lambos will be AWD.

 

[Philly]

I think they announced that all future Lambos will be AWD.

But don't take that statement too far. I'm sure there will be a time in the sort of far away future that there will be a RWD lamborghini for sale.

 

[exigeracer]

Me: No, I don't see. You guys have never been able to match the F430, the 911 Turbo wiped the floor with you guys, and you're a joke over in Detroit against the Z06 and the SRT-10. ...

I think you're giving the Dodge too much credit. Other than the Lamborghini being a completely different car, I think that it is still better overall. Either way, your main argument is still correct.

Anyone remember this?

The 40th Anniversary Murcielago. Complete with carbond fibre stickers.

 

[McLaren]

I think you're giving the Dodge too much credit. Other than the Lamborghini being a completely different car, I think that it is still better overall. Either way, your main argument is still correct.

Anyone remember this?

The 40th Anniversary Murcielago. Complete with carbond fibre stickers.

So? That means the 60th Anniversary 612 isn't anything special either nor is the Corvette GS, Corvette Z06 Ron Fellows Edition, or Dodge Copperhead Vipers.

BTW YSSMAN, maybe you should try studying some time. If you did, you'd see the Gallardo is doing the same thing Lamborghini has been doing since the 70's.

Anyways, before I read anymore of your pro-American posts that you've suddenly created, here's some info from Lamborghini Chicago's owner.

Introducing the Gallardo Superleggera.

3,000lbs. 154lbs lighter. Lighter than a F430 or GT3 Porsche.

530HP
0-60mph - 3.8 second
Top Speed - 315km/h

An extreme sport version of the Gallardo, elminating all superfluous materials. Propulsion system revised for the ECU and adaption of a new lightweigth exhaust system and a new throttle body in order to obtain more power and quicker throttle response.

New Rims, spoiler in carbon, wings in carbon, transparent bonnet in carbon, lightweight exhaust and pipes, modified lower grills, non-electric seats, door panels in carbon.

Exterior color options are Giallo Midas (pearl yellow), Arancio Borealis (Pearl Orange), Nero Noctis (Pearl Black)

Besides, if you don't like YSSMAN, why don't you go buy one of those worthless Ron Fellows Z06s.

 

[harrytuttle]

Regarding no rear-wheel-drive: Swing and a miss!

 

[exigeracer]

So? That means the 60th Anniversary 612 isn't anything special either nor is the Corvette GS, Corvette Z06 Ron Fellows Edition, or Dodge Copperhead Vipers.

So? You're paying twenty thousand dollars more for a different colour paint, powder coated wheels and carbon fibre trim. To finish up the rip off, they rub it in by making the carbon fibre fake. Have you seen it in person? It doesn't even come close to real. Tell me that is worth it.

Don't even try saying "if you have that money, twenty thousand dollars doesn't make a difference." Because it does. I know people who shop in that price bracket, they are always less wreckless with money than anyone else I know.

 

[1X83Z]

Is this, what, the fifteenth special edition Gallardo? I know of at least three already (SE, Nera, Momo) and there must be others.

 

[YSSMAN]

So? That means the 60th Anniversary 612 isn't anything special either nor is the Corvette GS, Corvette Z06 Ron Fellows Edition, or Dodge Copperhead Vipers.

BTW YSSMAN, maybe you should try studying some time. If you did, you'd see the Gallardo is doing the same thing Lamborghini has been doing since the 70's.

Anyways, before I read anymore of your pro-American posts that you've suddenly created, here's some info from Lamborghini Chicago's owner.

*pics*

Besides, if you don't like YSSMAN, why don't you go buy one of those worthless Ron Fellows Z06s.

Apparently we hit a nerve here, but I'm really not sure if I should apologize or not. I think there have been more than enough people here, including myself, who haven't been big fans of the Gallardo in general, and making a special model that really doesn't add much to the car overall certainly doesn't do much for me. Certainly I see your point about the other special-edition models, but I have yet to go ranting and raving about them as I usually just see them as a given model with special paint, maybe some fancy stitching on the seats, and some kind of number plate to commemorate it.

I'm really not looking to pick a fight here, as I really don't see it being worth one, but I guess I've learned not to pick on Lamborghini ever again... Although I probably will anyway...

 

[McLaren]

So? You're paying twenty thousand dollars more for a different colour paint, powder coated wheels and carbon fibre trim. To finish up the rip off, they rub it in by making the carbon fibre fake. Have you seen it in person? It doesn't even come close to real. Tell me that is worth it.

Don't even try saying "if you have that money, twenty thousand dollars doesn't make a difference." Because it does. I know people who shop in that price bracket, they are always less wreckless with money than anyone else I know.

That's fine. My point is if this is worthless, so is a Ron Fellows Z06 because you pay $10,000 more for a paintjob and nothing more. At least with this, you get a lot more performance. And I don't see how you can decide the carbon fibre is fake when you haven't seen it in person either.

Apparently we hit a nerve here, but I'm really not sure if I should apologize or not. I think there have been more than enough people here, including myself, who haven't been big fans of the Gallardo in general, and making a special model that really doesn't add much to the car overall certainly doesn't do much for me. Certainly I see your point about the other special-edition models, but I have yet to go ranting and raving about them as I usually just see them as a given model with special paint, maybe some fancy stitching on the seats, and some kind of number plate to commemorate it.

I'm really not looking to pick a fight here, as I really don't see it being worth one, but I guess I've learned not to pick on Lamborghini ever again... Although I probably will anyway...

I don't care if you pick on them. I care that you're trying to make it some big deal they've made another model of the Gallardo without realizing the fact this what Lamborghini has been doing for years.

There are only 6 Gallardo models offered in a 4 year period. 2 are no longer available.
There were 15 Diablo models offered in a 11 year period.
There have been 7 Murcielago models offered in a 6 year period. 2 are no longer made.

It's just what Lamborghini does and has been doing for the past 17 years. You can't knock them on one model you don't particular like without knocking the company's last 17 years.

 

[Jim Prower]

That's fine. My point is if this is worthless, so is a Ron Fellows Z06 because you pay $10,000 more for a paintjob and nothing more. At least with this, you get a lot more performance. And I don't see how you can decide the carbon fibre is fake when you haven't seen it in person either.

And, so far, you're the only one to mention that car.

By the by, that carbon on the Murc is likely fake, because it's part of a previous metal (?) body panel.

a lot of people don't like Lambourghini because they're too flashy, and that tends to get in the way of the true performance. That's why so many like the Miura and original (pre-flares) Countach: they were among Lambourghini's purest sports cars.

 

[Speedster502]

Hmmm let mke think carefully If I like this car........ Now it isnt really diffrent to the rest of the lambos but there again it is a Lambo. Decided
<<<< Look over at my avatar I think the decision is clear.
The normal Gallardo was awesome and the sound was wicked now this is going to be even more cooler. I know Lambo are creating "Special Editions" all the time but it is cool though.
Just thought of something wasnt there supposed to be a Murcie RGT for the road a few years ago well here you go here it is......one probelm it is a Gallardo

 

[Tornado]

That means the 60th Anniversary 612

It isn't. We already established that.

nor is the Corvette GS

Wrong. The Corvette had performace and suspension upgrades. The Lamborghini had fake carbon fiber.

Corvette Z06 Ron Fellows Edition

Wrong. It also has aerodynamic modifications. The Lamborghini had fake carbon fibre.

Dodge Copperhead Vipers

Wrong. The Copperhead had 50 BHP and 50 lb. ft. more. The Lamborghini had fake carbon fiber.

Anyways, before I read anymore of your pro-American posts that you've suddenly created, here's some info from Lamborghini Chicago's owner.

So, instead of reading YSSMAN's "Pro-American" posts (that are supported by a Brit, mind you), we can read your "Pro-Audighini" posts? Your posts in this thread have made you sound like Poverty with a different badge, and I'm disappointed.

Besides, if you don't like YSSMAN, why don't you go buy one of those worthless Ron Fellows Z06s.

Better than the still fundamentally flawed Audi Gallardo's.

And I don't see how you can decide the carbon fibre is fake when you haven't seen it in person either.

Looking at the pic posted alone tells you that that carbon fiber is more fake than the aluminum trim in the Chevy SSR. If you honestly think that is real, I fell sorry for you, because I've never heard of a manafacturer that halfway paints large body panels and then sells the car like that. Nor have I ever heard of one that completely reskins the car's cockpit in carbon fiber for only $20,000.​

There are only 6 Gallardo models offered in a 4 year period. 2 are no longer available.
There were 15 Diablo models offered in a 11 year period.
There have been 7 Murcielago models offered in a 6 year period. 2 are no longer made.

Mathematically, that works out so that after 11 years there will be 17 Gallardo's; instead of that 15 to 11 year Diablo (even though there was actually only 12 variations of the Diablo), and 13 Murcielago's in 11 years. So, what is your point?

 

[Poverty]

Wwhat exactly is wrong with a gallardo?

 

[Tornado]

The steering is numb and uncommunicative. The clutch and shifter travel is poor. It glides along the pavement more than connects with it. The car is resistant to get near its limits. It is too heavy. Things of that nature. They were more-or-less able to be overlooked when compared against the Ferrari 360 Modena. When compared to the F430 or Porsche 911 Turbo, they are nigh unforgivable.

 

[Poverty]

I hear that the numb and uncommunitive steering was fixed in later versions of the gallardo. Infact in more recent comparos the gallardo has been beating its rivals every now and again.

 

[3-Wheel Drive]

I know a lot of people harp on the Gallardo for being an Audi R8 in another skin. Am I the only one who doesn't care? I've liked the Gallardo since it came out, and this one is no different. I like the Lambo look, even if it isn't technically a Lamborghini. And so what if they make lots of expensive special additions? Lots of companies have special additions that are more expensive than the upgrades justify. If you don't feel the extra features aren't worth the money, just buy the regular model (it's not like many of us could even dream of affording these cars anyway)! If someone thinks fake carbon fiber and 10 extra horses is worth the extra cash, well, it's their money.

 

[///M-Spec]

I think some of you guys might be a little hard this car. In terms of concept, the Superleggera is the same as a Challenge Stradale or a 911 GT3 RS.

If it is indeed lighter than 3,000 lbs, that alone would be headline worthy-- it would weigh less than any current 911 or Corvette. Less than a GT3 RS, less than a Z06. However, the 360 Stradale would still be a whopping 400 lbs. lighter. Who knows what an F430 CS will bring to the table.

Concept to execution is a different matter. But I think it's worth keeping an open mind. Consider that most lightweight specials... the NSX-R, M3 CSL... and the aforementioned Z06, 911 RS and 360 CS end up being very special cars, there's room to hope.


M

 

[Tornado]

Something isn't right with these numbers.
The Gallardo manual weighs 1520kg, or 3,351lbs. If the Gallardo lost 154 pounds, than it would weigh about 3197 lbs, or about 1450 kg. It has to weigh under 1361kg to weigh less than 3000 pounds. Therefore, to get under the 3000 pound limit it would have to lose 159 kg, which is in fact about 350 pounds.
So, either the press release posted by Poverty is wrong (possible, as the Gallardo woudl have to lose 190 kg to get to 1330, not 100), or the press release posted by *McLaren* is wrong (also possible, as they would need to drop about 350 pounds to get to 3000 pounds). Possibly both.

 

[Poverty]

According to RS sportscars website the gallardo weighs 1420kg