Gascoyne leaving Toyota!?

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Mike Gascoyne has reportedly left the Toyota Formula One team as part of a major management reshuffle. Nobody at Toyota was immediately available to comment on the rumour.

Gascoyne along with Adrian Newey is one of the highest paid engineers in F1 and despite working for Cologne-based Toyota, Gascoyne never moved to Germany instead preferring to commute from his home and family in the UK.

Gascoyne joined Toyota in a big-money move from Renault. Stay tuned for more details.
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The word on the street on Tuesday was that there has been a major shake-up at Panasonic Toyota Racing with our sources saying that technical director (chassis) Mike Gascoyne has departed the team. We contacted Gascoyne to see if there was a story. He is saying nothing at all beyond "No comment" and by default one must assume that there is a problem because in normal circumstances Gascoyne would swat away such rumours. What is not clear is why this may have happened because the team was looking up with Ralf Schumacher's third place in Australia and there was no obvious sign of tension. The first three races have not been easy for Toyota and Gascoyne's driving ambition is not always guaranteed to go down well with people who are used to more corporate ways. Having said that, corporations tend to lumber along slowly and that rarely works in F1.

We expect that once the story begins to leak out there will have to be some kind of reaction from Toyota.
Wow, if these rumours are true it would be a huge shock. Although Toyota hasn’t really delivered the results this season, it is an extremely competitive environment and the car pace has been pretty good in Malaysia, and especially in Australia.

Now, to wait for confirmation… :nervous:
 
What the hell? Wasn't Toyota like all over his meatpipe before the start of the season?
 
If Toyota forced him out, that's very bad. This is a guy who was instrumental in turning Renault from a backmarker into a championship contender in just 4 years.
 
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The word from Cologne is that the departure of Mike Gascoyne, which is still to be officially confirmed, will see Pascal Vasselon move up from his current role as General Manager (Car Design and Development) to take on Gascoyne's role as technical director (chassis). This is interesting given that Vasselon is fundamentally a tyre engineer, having joined Toyota from Michelin.

The design team at the moment in Cologne consists of three groups: two deal with pure design and are headed by John Litjens and Mark Tatham and the third deals with longer-term design ideas and is headed by David Nielsen. The aerodynamics department is now under the control of Jason Somerville.

This is not expected to change a great deal.

What will be more interesting is what happens now to Gascoyne. It will be at least six months before he is working again and it is fairly clear that Mike has had enough of working abroad and will be looking for a job in Britain. That narrows down his options as most of the obvious jobs are taken and it is unlikely that he will want to get involved in some that might like to hire him. There may be possibilities with a new team once we know the 12 teams chosen for 2008 and it is also possible that a team such as Super Aguri Racing would want to hire Gascoyne, not only for his knowledge and experience, but also because it would be a kick in the teeth for Toyota from rival Honda.

In the interim, however, there are bound to be legal implications of the split which will be keeping the Toyota lawyers busy. In the case of Gascoyne this may be rather easier than in the case of Gustav Brunner as the Austrian is believed to have had a non-finite contract. Gascoyne's contract had a year or so to run.
Still not confirmation, but interesting none-the-less.
 
It makes no sense to me, and unless Toyota are canning their F1 project I can’t think of any reason to drop Gascoyne.
 
Yeah, I’m sorry but what’s the difference between “You’re no longer working and we’re not paying you” and “You’re no longer working and we’re not paying you”?
 
I could kinda understand this before the Australian GP but since R Schumacher got 3rd whats Toyota's grumble? Maybe even that's not good enough. Perhaps they saw that as a fluke.

I can't help feeling this is more a clash of personalities or work ethics than anything else. Toyota are supposed to be a fairly conservative outfit. I don't think Gascoyne is the conservative type (not if you're supposed to turn a team around and make them win). Whose to say what's been going on behind closed doors, regardless of results.
We'll hear what it's all about soon enough.
 
It would be incredibly funny if he goes and joins Honda now. Quite surprised about that though, Toyota seem to be coming back to their 05 pace.
 
Damn... How long before another team snaps him up then..
 
I think Williams should pick him up. He and Pat would join forces to become the UBER GASHEAD!
 
^They should buy Frank Williams's share in the team and rename it "der uber GASHEAD"
 
The phrase that keeps being thrown around is “fundamental difference of opinion.” :rolleyes:
 
Well, Gascoyne's designs were always very heavy on aero grip with almost no exception made for mechanical (which did Alonso quite well in the '03 Hungarian GP), but with Toyota on these hard-to-warm-up Bridgestones, his work goes nowhere.
 
WTF?!


Without Gascoyne, those podiums from last year were impossible!
 
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Well, Gascoyne's designs were always very heavy on aero grip with almost no exception made for mechanical (which did Alonso quite well in the '03 Hungarian GP), but with Toyota on these hard-to-warm-up Bridgestones, his work goes nowhere.

I'm sure the new Michelin tire engineer taking his place will solve that problem. :rolleyes:
 
And it's official.

From a Honda supporter's view, that's awesome. :lol: But it's a shame to see him dissapear from the paddock.

Good luck to Toyota for the rest of the season...
 
Hm. F1's official site says he's gone.
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If this management change helps Toyota to win a race or two this or next season, then so be it.
 
Toyota suck they make boring cars and theyre F1 program is pointless. I hope they crash and burn because theyre F1 car has no soul. They arent competing in F1 for the good of the consumer at all.
 
Ah, but as goes Honda, so must go Toyota.
 
Poverty
I hope they crash and burn because theyre F1 car has no soul.

Now, that's not very nice.
 
Poverty
Toyota suck they make boring cars and theyre F1 program is pointless. I hope they crash and burn because theyre F1 car has no soul. They arent competing in F1 for the good of the consumer at all.

Are you PSICivic!??!!?!

No seriously, that's a statement you'd expect from him. They are a nice tight team, maybe a bit corporate but still they are a racing team none the less, just because they have 2 pretty bland drivers means they are hardly mentioned in the media.

The boring car's part is your opinion, but personally I've always liked the Supra and the Corolla isn't half bad either. ;)

Now your post was pretty pointless (The reason why it sounded like PSICivic's work) It has nothing to do with the current story of Gascoyne leaving the team. Hopefully the mods will look lightly on that fact....

Bee.
 
Bee
Are you PSICivic!??!!?!

No seriously, that's a statement you'd expect from him. They are a nice tight team, maybe a bit corporate but still they are a racing team none the less, just because they have 2 pretty bland drivers means they are hardly mentioned in the media.

The boring car's part is your opinion, but personally I've always liked the Supra and the Corolla isn't half bad either. ;)

Now your post was pretty pointless (The reason why it sounded like PSICivic's work) It has nothing to do with the current story of Gascoyne leaving the team. Hopefully the mods will look lightly on that fact....

Bee.


Is the highhorse demounted yet?

What performance car has toyota made since being in F1? Infact since they have been in F1 they have ceased production for a two of their sports cars.

The supra and celica GT-fours were great but those were concieved a long time ago before Toyota even thought about entering F1. The only thing F1 like now is a rumoured toyota supra replacement V10. But that seems to be headed for lexus. I dont know about you but BMW' cosworth audi and mercedes develop cars using technology they learnt from their race cars.

Toyota being in F1 is pointless and only part of marketing their brand on a world stage so far.

And I like trulli and its post was relevant to gasgoyne leaving as he obviously didnt like the lack of spirit which toyota replicates in their roadcars.


PS. I hope the toyota motor corp. boss pulls the plug on their F1 project to make way for a spirited team.
 
Poverty
Is the highhorse demounted yet?

What performance car has toyota made since being in F1? Infact since they have been in F1 they have ceased production for a two of their sports cars.

The supra and celica GT-fours were great but those were concieved a long time ago before Toyota even thought about entering F1. The only thing F1 like now is a rumoured toyota replacement V10. But that seems to be headed for lexus. I dont know about you but BMW' cosworth audi and mercedes develop cars using technology they learnt from their race cars.

Toyota being in F1 is pointless and only part of marketing their brand on a world stage so far.

And I like trulli and its post was relevant to gasgoyne leaving as he obviously didnt like the lack of spirit which toyota replicates in their roadcars.

I still don't see any revelance between your post and Gascoyne leaving. Gascoyne was not even mentioned in your post.

It's just a personal stab at the brand that is not really needed.

I'm not trying to say get you into trouble with the mods, it was just a post that I believed was unappropiate. If you wish to continue this talk, I'm just a pm away 👍 Because this is getting incredibly off topic.
 
Poverty
Is the highhorse demounted yet?

What performance car has toyota made since being in F1? Infact since they have been in F1 they have ceased production for a two of their sports cars.

The supra and celica GT-fours were great but those were concieved a long time ago before Toyota even thought about entering F1. The only thing F1 like now is a rumoured toyota supra replacement V10. But that seems to be headed for lexus. I dont know about you but BMW' cosworth audi and mercedes develop cars using technology they learnt from their race cars.

Toyota being in F1 is pointless and only part of marketing their brand on a world stage so far.

And I like trulli and its post was relevant to gasgoyne leaving as he obviously didnt like the lack of spirit which toyota replicates in their roadcars.


PS. I hope the toyota motor corp. boss pulls the plug on their F1 project to make way for a spirited team.

What the hell are you talking about? Toyota only joined F1 in 2002, they've done pretty well considering how new they are.

Also, being in F1 isn't completely related to road cars. Carbon brakes, V10 engines and loads of downforce isn't really necessary on a Toyota Corolla. It's everyday cars like these that have made Toyota the biggest and most successful automotive car make in the world. Not million dollar supercars where F1 technology may be more appropriate.

However, Toyota is now building a V10 supercar under the Lexus badge, but you don't like that either?
 
Casio
What the hell are you talking about? Toyota only joined F1 in 2002, they've done pretty well considering how new they are.

Also, being in F1 isn't completely related to road cars. Carbon brakes, V10 engines and loads of downforce isn't really necessary on a Toyota Corolla. It's everyday cars like these that have made Toyota the biggest and most successful automotive car make in the world. Not million dollar supercars where F1 technology may be more appropriate.

However, Toyota is now building a V10 supercar under the Lexus badge, but you don't like that either?


4 years in F1 with one of the biggest budgets and its still a back runner. Serves them right for being such a souless, max profit company. The company doesnt even have any halo cars.

Do toyotas sell in europe? No not really. And Ive mentioned all the reasons why.
 
Poverty
4 years in F1 with one of the biggest budgets and its still a back runner. Serves them right for being such a souless, max profit company. The company doesnt even have any halo cars.

Do toyotas sell in europe? No not really. And Ive mentioned all the reasons why.

Oddly enough [SIZE=-1]Toyota is the only major car manufacturer that has increased sales and marketshare in Europe every year for the last 8 years. (Near current Market share 5.5%)

What does Europe have to do with anything anyway? Are you saying everybody in Europe drives F1 inspired performance cars?

In Australia, Toyota has had the most sales/market share for the last 10 years. In the US Toyota is rapidly gaining on GM and Ford ([/SIZE]Toyota's Camry has been the top-selling car in the U.S. for several years), and in Japan 40% of all new cars registered in 2004 were Toyota's (That's a lot)

They're hardly a back runner either. Last year they got 6 podiums, and scored points in all the real races, bar one. And a couple of pole positions.
 
Toyota's new Camry replacement model the Aurion is being advertised on TV. The message from the ad is "No longer are family cars inspired by touring car technology, but Formula 1".

To be honest I'm not a fan of Toyota either. The only car I've liked from the manufacturer is the GT-Four as well. But I do want to see them compete at the highest level of motorsport. The team is very very close and this shakeup will affect the team quite badly. From what I hear Gascoyne didn't fit in very well. He refused to learn German or accept other ideas and concentrate on his own.

The Japanese manufacturer lured him with not only a big pay check but complete freedom to design the car, the German side weren't happy with the word "Complete Freedom to design".

Either way I want to see the best manufacturers compete to showcase their abilities to build a car within a set of guidelines piloted by the best 22 or so drivers. That's what it boils down too.
 
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