Genesis Coupe Thread

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MidFieldMaven
My gf had a Mitsubishi Eclipse GT Spyder V6 and just changing out the spark plugs was a huge PITA that I never had the misfortune of experiencing in any 4cyl. I stand by my opinion that 6+ cylinders are not as mechanic-friendly as 4cyl's. Fewer cylinders = less time and money spent on maintenance/repair.
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Of course changing plugs on a transverse-mounted V engine will be difficult. It doesn't matter the cylinder count.

Want easy? How about this:
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MidFieldMaven
My gf had a Mitsubishi Eclipse GT Spyder V6 and just changing out the spark plugs was a huge PITA that I never had the misfortune of experiencing in any 4cyl. I stand by my opinion that 6+ cylinders are not as mechanic-friendly as 4cyl's. Fewer cylinders = less time and money spent on maintenance/repair.
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Of course, It's your opinion, but I'll have to honestly say (to me) that that isn't always the case. It is with stuff like cylinder heads and spark plugs in terms of money, but yeah.

Also, transverse V6 engines are bound to be a PITA to change out the spark plugs, considering that I had to deal with that on the family van (Honda Odyssey). Longitudinal is where it's at for V engines.
 
Omnis
Actually, it doesn't. Especially not that 2.0T, the only engine Hyundai used that doesn't share parts with anything else.
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Except with Chrysler and Mitsubishi, since it was largely based on the 4B11 from the Evolution X.
 
Yeah I'm not sure making it more upscale is a good decision.
 
R1600Turbo
Yeah I'm not sure making it more upscale is a good decision.
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If it were to make it a Genesis branded car, it could go against the A5, 4 series, etc. It might be a good decision if the price is right.

However, they should offer a less luxurious version for those who don't care for the extra luxuries and want more driving pleasure.
 
It makes sense when taking Kia into consideration. From my understanding, Kia is primed to be the sportier option of the two (the Pro_C'eed GT is a fine warm hatch from everything I've read across the pond). If Hyundai is striking the heartland, then Genesis models can go after the premium sector.

I'm not sure it's a recipe for sales success — I can't see it succeeding against the Germans — but maybe it could fight off the Lexus and Infiniti coupes. The current car's spot in the market is a difficult one: there's the aging 370Z, and the Chamarostang.
 
SlipZtrEm
It makes sense when taking Kia into consideration. From my understanding, Kia is primed to be the sportier option of the two (the Pro_C'eed GT is a fine warm hatch from everything I've read across the pond). If Hyundai is striking the heartland, then Genesis models can go after the premium sector.
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Funny as the few Kias I have driven personally (2012 Optima, Sorento, and passenger in the 2016 Optima in a test drive) aren't as sporty as you would think they would be. They got some pep in terms of engine response and ready to romp (4 cylinders that is), but the steering and dynamics of the car still need some work. I've also drove a godsister's 2015 Hyundai Sonata (base model) and while it's actual quiet and muted at speed, steering and dynamics are still behind my 90s sport Toyota sedan with a L badge (when it's fixed). Granted, these are everyday cars not known for sport, but they are just fine to drive on a day to day basis.
 
Akira Ishi
I've also drove a godsister's 2015 Hyundai Sonata (base model) and while it's actual quiet and muted at speed, steering and dynamics are still behind my 90s sport Toyota sedan with a L badge (when it's fixed). Granted, these are everyday cars not known for sport, but they are just fine to drive on a day to day basis.
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My sister owns a 2013 Sonata, and I used it as my own car for a month, (she lives in NYC, so there's no driving there,) and I thought it was great for what it was built for, which was more city driving than sporty driving.
 
Chrisw265
My sister owns a 2013 Sonata, and I used it as my own car for a month, (she lives in NYC, so there's no driving there,) and I thought it was great for what it was built for, which was more city driving than sporty driving.
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I didn't get to drive a 2013 version. However, the 2015 Sonata probably wouldn't feel that much different from a 2013 version other than a nicer interior.
 
If they don't use the N moniker on the Genesis, they could use that chassis to make a Coupe in the current mold. The N Coupe?
 
I was saddened two years ago when they axed the 2.0T

That's the one I want in GT7. The 2013-2014 model with 275 hp/tq.

Never cared much for the V6.
 
SlipZtrEm
I'm not sure it's a recipe for sales success — I can't see it succeeding against the Germans — but maybe it could fight off the Lexus and Infiniti coupes. The current car's spot in the market is a difficult one: there's the aging 370Z, and the Chamarostang.
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Taking on the Lexus RC isn't too tough a situation given its weird Frankenstein like construction. It isn't bad as a luxury coupe, and given Hyundai's track record, it is any easy benchmark to meet. The Q50 (60?) might be a little more difficult given its exceptional styling and turbo V6, but Infiniti has a hell of a time deciding what it is, now. In my mind, it would have to be an in between option for a loaded Mustang or Camaro, and the S5 or 435i.

Hyundai still has a lot to prove when it comes to chassis design and development before we get too hung up on sporting potential and luxury goodies. For every effort where they might get the steering feel right, the ride will be terrible, or there will be grip, but too much body roll, and so on and so on.

At this point I'd be more excited about a Kia rear-drive coupe than the Hyundai. They've had a much better track record of at least making interesting cars as of late, and given the same bones as a new Genesis, could be a very interesting option on the lower end of the sporty coupe bracket.
 
Condersidering my first two cars were Genesis Coupes (a used 2011 2.0t manual and a new 2015 3.8 automatic) this saddens me.

So what about that 3.3 L twin turbo they were showing off a bit of?
 
bremics
Condersidering my first two cars were Genesis Coupes (a used 2011 2.0t manual and a new 2015 3.8 automatic) this saddens me.

So what about that 3.3 L twin turbo they were showing off a bit of?
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Might be used in the G80/G70 on certain trim levels, and or apart of an N spec car.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
Of course changing plugs on a transverse-mounted V engine will be difficult. It doesn't matter the cylinder count.

Want easy? How about this:
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Not willing to trade ease of plugs, which need changed like once every 10 years, for difficulty of everything else.
 
Akira Ishi
Funny as the few Kias I have driven personally (2012 Optima, Sorento, and passenger in the 2016 Optima in a test drive) aren't as sporty as you would think they would be.
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That'll improve from here on out with Biermann (ex-BMW M) in charge of their chassis development now.

I've driven the old Optima and driven the new one - the new one is a big step up. Better geometry, better steering, better tyres. Not exactly a BMW-style sport sedan but a huge improvement on before.

I "own" a Proceed GT like @SlipZtrEm mentioned, and it's actually pretty damn good. If that's the sort of car they're capable of pre-Biermann, I'm quite looking forward to seeing what they'll do now. Quite high hopes for the Optima GT, for instance.

The group is very much pitching Kia as the sportier of the Kia/Hyundai pair though. The only exception is Hyundai's 'N' division, which will sit above even Kia's GT models.
 
-> Since the GenCoupe is no more after this year. Hyundai could bring back the Tiburon as a 3-door (instead of a 4-door) hatch by using each driver-side panels on each side!!

From This:
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To This:
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^ Or might as well go all-out as a send-off:
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-> I'm aware that Kia is currently testing RWD GT mules all over the world, but what happened to the Stinger?

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In my opinion, except for the fact that it doesn't do power oversteer, the Veloster is much more fun to drive. Handier size, better steering feel and a well-sorted suspension.

MidFieldMaven
I was saddened two years ago when they axed the 2.0T

That's the one I want in GT7. The 2013-2014 model with 275 hp/tq.

Never cared much for the V6.
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The V6 is a much better car to drive.

Neither has particularly stellar steering, and the rear suspension, even after the upgrade and improvement, is still a bit too soft and bouncy... but the V6 has a more linear power delivery, better throttle response and a throaty and rev-happy engine.

The 2.0T is still loads of fun, and possibly easier to tune... but after doing a few drift events with it, I still can't come to grips with the throttle delay when you're doing clutch-kick drifts and trying to change directions.
 
I would totally forgive Hyundai for killing the Genesis if they actually released an actual affordable mid-engined sports car.

The cheapest (and only) new mid-engined sports car I can in my city is a Porsche Boxster S for $94k.

If I could go to my Hyundai dealer and get one for around $45k?
 
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