German Cars All the Way

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my porsche is....was (damnit) powered by part VW and part porsche. oh and its 100HP will destroy anything <8- ( anyways the ford GT is really a amazing car and im glad i live in michigan the homeland. actually a couple of owners take their ford GTs to gingerman which is like 30 minutes away. yeah i agree with the squidd. its not about the name. its about the driving. keep it simple. no a.b.s.,no automatic, no power steering, no rear view mirror, no A/C, and of course no power windows.
 
Look up this word in the dictionary: parity. GT is not an own-fest of nationalities. It's not an own-fest of types of car, either. Kazunori Yamauchi once stated that Gran Turismo is "an encyclopedia of cars." So what does that mean? It means that many manufacturers will be represented in a game where a casual or seasoned car veteran will be able to access cars that interest the person. And if it's not in the GT game, the person will be at home with alternatives.

And you see? This is why I'm pretty neutral with cars. I try to be as neutral as possible because I don't want to be such a patriot to a nationality of car. GT4 will have a good number of parity among cars. If you like German cars, that's good. But if you're going to go around hating on other cars like we don't know what the hell classifies as a "cool car," you're just being severely closed-minded about cars. Kazunori Yamauchi didn't put in all these cars so you can beat a nationality of cars. He put them in for racing, because the game is about racing and having fun doing it. Someone said, "I don't see the point of this thread." Basically, I don't either. I'm being a nice guy because I don't like sounding off on people online. But you need to reconsider on the German car deal. We understand you love them, but you didn't have to go to this level, you dig?

Anyhow, if this thread gets locked, I'm sure there will be substantial and credible reason for it. I'm done, next?
 
the Interceptor
I don't know how long you've been reading the statements and discussions about GT4, but this has been discussed a million times already, which won't change the facts:

Polyphony doesn't have a license for Porsche or Ferrari, so they won't be included in the game. I'd really love to see them, but I'm afraid this won't happen.

Cheers,
the Interceptor
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I've been hanging around in the forums for a while now, here are the facts from what I gathered:

1. KY has stated that Ferrari ande Porsche will not be in GT4 due to licensing issues

2. Ferrari and Porsche pics are shown in GT4: Prologue.

3. GT4 delayed until after November 2004 (the month in which EA license was set to expire)

Number 2. and 3. can be interpreted in two ways:

1. Pure coincedence, for the November month and Ferrari and Porsche pics are just taken as part of an outing, nothing related to actual developing.

2. Too much of a coincedence, why would PD put Ferrari and Porsche pics in GT4? Why show it when they can't put it (maybe they're sadists). Why delay until after November?

So I'm being optimistic
 
I'm sorry, we're up to Page 4 of this thread and I still can't see the point, even after I've read and re-read it in a fruitless attempt to find out what it's all about.
 
Shloogorgh
I've been hanging around in the forums for a while now, here are the facts from what I gathered:

1. KY has stated that Ferrari ande Porsche will not be in GT4 due to licensing issues

2. Ferrari and Porsche pics are shown in GT4: Prologue.

3. GT4 delayed until after November 2004 (the month in which EA license was set to expire)

Number 2. and 3. can be interpreted in two ways:

1. Pure coincedence, for the November month and Ferrari and Porsche pics are just taken as part of an outing, nothing related to actual developing.

2. Too much of a coincedence, why would PD put Ferrari and Porsche pics in GT4? Why show it when they can't put it (maybe they're sadists). Why delay until after November?

So I'm being optimistic
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Either way it will result in people on both sides of the argument (either coming out of the woodwork or re-iterating their already publicly expressed opinion) saying...

"I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

But PD has definitely shown a classic case of mixed messages...
 
hellnback
Maybe someone should start a "German Cars Not In GT4" thread... it's about as useful as this one...
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With a post like that, it's pretty obvious that your shoe size is a bigger number than your IQ! If you find a topic to 'boring' or 'useless'..do US ALL A FAVOR and hit your browsers back button and go read a topic that would be worthy of such a response as the one above!

Thank you!
 
SimRaceDriver: The first post of the thread was simply a cut'n'paste jobs of The359's car list, announcing that these were German cars in the game. It's not earth shattering news now is it.

Shall we start a thread for each country??? Or maybe start a thread of the nature of "Cars manufactured in Antarctica not in GT4 because of PD/KY conspiracy!!!"

The only thing more annoying than threads repeated, is threads that should have never been started.
 
If this game can afford to have two types of E46 M3s (I'm not complaining about that), they should also include the E36 and most importantly the E30 M3 Evo III, the one that started the whole thing. In actuality the first M car was the M1, which should also have its place in this game.

Also it would be really nice to have the 80s mark I VW Golf GTi, which i might add lays waste to the newest mark IV GTi R32. It's about the oldies with some car makers.

The S2000 is a remarkable machine, except for one little problem (to a competitive driver). The four banger just doesnt deliver enough torque until 5k or 6k rpm, even then torque peaks at just over 120 lbs/ft. Not enough to hang with the Z3 M roadster/coupe or the perfectly balanced Boxster S. Otherwise a good quality top down car at the top of its class.

cris
 
I'm just gonna say this.

Saying that Mini and those are German b/c they're owned by a German manu. is almost like saying McLaren is German b/c they are powered by BMW.


This thread might as will be closed.
 
also would be fun to have:

BMW M3 (E30) + EVOsport - amazing revolutionary cars! (korpi and E30Evosport are damn right!)

BMW 850i - just gota have that! (we did in GT2!!!!!!!)

BMW M1 - would be so sweet

BMW Z3 M3 - why not have the convertible roadster if we're gonna have the coupe (the coupe is nice but it sure looks like a shoe)

BMW 6 series (old and new versions) - no comments about those

and maybe even a convertible (E36) 3 series!!!! --> why not?

The car (E36 BMW 3 series 92-99) is one of the best sellers of all times!!!!!!!!!The model existed w/ almost no change for almost 9 years!!!!! why not have more than one version of it????? + I'm sure PD would want people to identify with the game... having the E36 takes care of a huge crowd...leaving it out, in my opinion, would have to be the result of a faulty marketing research ... sorry, just my 2 cents...










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I do have to agree with you on that.

The M1 and M1 Race Cars are legends. 👍
Z8 is good too. I've been hoping for it to be in.
 
McLaren F1GTR
I'm just gonna say this.

Saying that Mini and those are German b/c they're owned by a German manu. is almost like saying McLaren is German b/c they are powered by BMW.


This thread might as will be closed.
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Hey, change your avatar to a McLaren, not a Ferrari :grumpy: ..... :sly:
 
phonypoly
And...BTW, why can't BMW make an M50, that way we'll have an.... "Ass-ault Vehicle"...? :sly:
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Whatchu mean by M50? Because, co-incidentally there was an engine BMW made between 1991 and 1995 and it had an iron block..........


What do you mean by M50?
 
Just b/c my name's McLaren doesn't mean it has to be a McLaren.

I'm racer, and I live to race and drive ALL Supercars
 
i'm excited about all the BMWs they got new and old BMWs i'm very interested to see how they are going to be. deep down inside i'm a BMW fan, gotta love the M3!
 
nightcreature84
i'm excited about all the BMWs they got new and old BMWs i'm very interested to see how they are going to be. deep down inside i'm a BMW fan, gotta love the M3!
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So you're glad that the
M3
M3 CSL
M3 GTR
M3 GTR Race Car

are in?

Duh. Of course you are, and so am I.
 

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