German GP 2005

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The German GP is one of my favourites. A couple of things of note this weekend:
  • Doornbos will be racing at Minardi replacing Friesacher
  • Kiesa has got the friday drive at Jordan, he raced for Minardi in 2003 when Justin Wilson moved to Jaguar
  • There is a 60% chance of rain on Sunday
  • There has been alot of testing recently, Williams new aero package seems promising from what I've read, so maybe they'll get back into the points
  • This track is traditionally very hard on rear tyres (remember back in 2003), and temps are expected to be very high if it's not raining, so maybe Renault will have some problems - they do say, however, that they've rectified the problem they had in Monaco
Should be a good weekend 👍

Bake
 
Starting early this week Blake!

I have no idea what will happen this weekend, if it rains then Shumi will be very strong as usual. I wish they would put Hockenheim back the way it was :(
 
i love the new hockenheim, i dont know how anyone cant like it.

Alonso all the way this weekend
 
they were ok, but you could say the same about the nordschleife.

i just think the new layout is amazing, much more competitive racing than in the old one.
 
Blake
[*]This track is traditionally very hard on rear tyres (remember back in 2003), and temps are expected to be very high if it's not raining, so maybe Renault will have some problems - they do say, however, that they've rectified the problem they had in Monaco[/list]
Bake
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No, Renault shouldn't have any problems with the German GP. Alonso had no problems the past two years. He scored 4th and 3rd the last two seasons there.

I say Alonso takes 1st, if Kimi runs low in the starting order again. JPM has been running hot lately, and he has a good record here. So, it will be yet another close race with Alonso being a for sure podium finisher. What is critical for Renault is Fisi. He really needs to come through for Renault and Alonso with JPM doing so well. Fisi could blow it for Renault, so I'll watch with great interest how he performs in pratice that is set to take place 6 hours from now.
 
I'm not sure about this weekend. I'll take a stab at it and say;

Kimi
JPM
Alonso
Button
MS

Should be a good weekend. The current track is NOTHING like the classic one through the woods...but still, not a bad circuit for modern GP racing.
 
THis race will be great, it'd be greater on the old track though, man those long straights were awesome.
 
Friday Practice 1

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 A. Wurz McLaren 1:14.277 21
2 R. Zonta Toyota 1:14.893 27
3 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:15.634 9
4 J. Button BAR 1:15.851 16
5 JP. Montoya McLaren 1:15.901 9
6 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:16.259 20
7 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1:16.280 17
8 V. Liuzzi Red Bull 1:16.733 26
9 T. Sato BAR 1:16.795 16
10 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:17.197 14
11 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:17.277 14
12 J. Trulli Toyota 1:17.341 14
13 C. Klien Red Bull 1:17.423 13
14 F. Massa Sauber 1:17.442 13
15 N. Heidfeld Williams 1:17.665 10
16 M. Webber Williams 1:17.689 10
17 J. Villeneuve Sauber 1:18.132 8
18 N. Karthikeyan Jordan 1:18.988 21
19 C. Albers Minardi 1:19.151 19
20 T. Monteiro Jordan 1:19.400 19
21 N. Kiesa Jordan 1:19.933 25
22 R. Doornbos Minardi 1:20.108 17
23 G. Fisichella Renault no time 2
24 F. Alonso Renault no time 2

Blake
 
Friday Practice 2

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 A. Wurz McLaren 1:13.973 37
2 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:14.576 20
3 F. Alonso Renault 1:15.560 34
4 JP. Montoya McLaren 1:15.772 18
5 R. Zonta Toyota 1:16.091 34
6 G. Fisichella Renault 1:16.146 28
7 F. Massa Sauber 1:16.161 24
8 V. Liuzzi Red Bull 1:16.297 38
9 J. Trulli Toyota 1:16.411 23
10 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:16.474 15
11 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:16.575 19
12 C. Klien Red Bull 1:16.658 14
13 J. Button BAR 1:16.752 26
14 M. Webber Williams 1:16.879 17
15 N. Heidfeld Williams 1:16.893 18
16 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1:16.913 17
17 J. Villeneuve Sauber 1:16.938 20
18 T. Sato BAR 1:16.992 27
19 N. Karthikeyan Jordan 1:17.506 25
20 C. Albers Minardi 1:17.830 17
21 R. Doornbos Minardi 1:17.978 28
22 T. Monteiro Jordan 1:18.227 28
23 N. Kiesa Jordan 1:19.484 19
24 D. Coulthard Red Bull no time 2

Blake
 
hmmmmmmmmm i think Raikkonen will have this one as long as the Merc dont give up on him again with a batlle for 2nd including the likes of Alonso, JPM, Schumi (if it rains), maybe Button if he puts in another good qualifying performance. For pole Raikkonen with a healthy amount of fuel too. McLaren all the way i think.... (still hoping for BAR though :D)
 
A Merc engine not give up...hahaha...ya and monkeys will fly out of my you know what...

:-)

My fingers are crossed for Kimi and JPM...I love Trulli but I hope they get ahead of him too!
 
Well McLaren are looking very strong and I expect a 1-2. I think that would be there first since 1999 wouldn't it?

Kimi
JPM
Alonso
Button

Blake
 
Saturday Practice 1

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:15.684 10
2 JP. Montoya McLaren 1:15.753 5
3 F. Alonso Renault 1:16.477 14
4 C. Klien Red Bull 1:16.698 0
5 F. Massa Sauber 1:16.799 7
6 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:16.926 16
7 M. Webber Williams 1:16.961 7
8 J. Trulli Toyota 1:17.053 7
9 G. Fisichella Renault 1:17.061 14
10 T. Sato BAR 1:17.331 5
11 J. Button BAR 1:17.397 8
12 J. Villeneuve Sauber 1:17.408 11
13 N. Heidfeld Williams 1:17.536 8
14 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1:17.599 10
15 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:17.617 9
16 N. Karthikeyan Jordan 1:18.102 12
17 C. Albers Minardi 1:18.217 17
18 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:18.229 8
19 R. Doornbos Minardi 1:19.083 17
20 T. Monteiro Jordan 1:19.103 14

Blake
 
I am certainly not a M. Schumacher fan and love to see him lose for a change but I wonder what is wrong with him and Ferrari this season.
 
Saturday practice 2[/b]

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:14.128 11
2 JP. Montoya McLaren 1:14.449 16
3 F. Alonso Renault 1:14.758 12
4 G. Fisichella Renault 1:14.958 15
5 J. Button BAR 1:15.072 15
6 M. Webber Williams 1:15.111 10
7 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:15.253 12
8 N. Heidfeld Williams 1:15.255 10
9 C. Klien Red Bull 1:15.388 14
10 J. Trulli Toyota 1:15.417 14
11 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:15.491 13
12 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:15.585 18
13 T. Sato BAR 1:15.699 18
14 F. Massa Sauber 1:15.781 12
15 J. Villeneuve Sauber 1:16.037 13
16 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1:16.072 11
17 C. Albers Minardi 1:16.674 14
18 R. Doornbos Minardi 1:16.912 14
19 N. Karthikeyan Jordan 1:17.210 16
20 T. Monteiro Jordan 1:17.966 11

Blake
 
Qualifying

Pos. Driver Team Time
1 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:14.320
2 J. Button BAR 1:14.759
3 F. Alonso Renault 1:14.904
4 G. Fisichella Renault 1:14.927
5 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:15.006
6 M. Webber Williams 1:15.070
7 N. Heidfeld Williams 1:15.403
8 T. Sato BAR 1:15.501
9 J. Trulli Toyota 1:15.532
10 C. Klien Red Bull 1:15.635
11 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:15.679
12 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:15.689
13 F. Massa Sauber 1:16.009
14 J. Villeneuve Sauber 1:16.012
15 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1:16.230
16 C. Albers Minardi 1:17.519
17 R. Doornbos Minardi 1:18.313
18 T. Monteiro Jordan 1:18.599
19 JP. Montoya McLaren no time
20 N. Karthikeyan Jordan no time

Blake
 
Raikonnen is on pole, no surprise there but JPM losing the McLaren on the last corner.... harsh. Nice lap by Button though to get ahead of the Renaults
 
Gee, I wonder if Button is qualifying light again? :rolleyes:

Good show by the Renaults. I hope Fisi does well this time.

1st. Kimi
2nd. Alonso
3rd. Fisi
4th. Shumacher
5th Button
6th JPM
7th. Webber
8th. Heidfeld
 
Hmmmmm heres my prediction:
1st: Kimi
2nd: Alonso
3rd: Button
4th: M Schumacher
5th: Webber
6th: Hiefeld
7th: Trulli
8th: Montoya

Knowing Fisi's luck some german will come over to him in the pits and offer him a nice cool pint of kronenburg.... and then another.... and another....
 
Bee
Hmmmmm heres my prediction:
1st: Kimi
2nd: Alonso
3rd: Button
4th: M Schumacher
5th: Webber
6th: Hiefeld
7th: Trulli
8th: Montoya

Knowing Fisi's luck some german will come over to him in the pits and offer him a nice cool pint of kronenburg.... and then another.... and another....
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I would not be surprised if he fell asleep at the wheel during the start of the race, myself.
 
He might even bring some lucky charms that will increase the weight of his car, the added weight leading to faster tyre wear and so has a tyre failure. Poor Fisi....
 
That Op. Lock of Kimi's was beautiful! Almost like her was driving an RR Porsche...

JPM - This is why we love the guy. He is go for it all the time. On that ragged edge. Sometimes it works. other times it doesn't. Sucks to be him but in some ways it helps Kimi as all he needs to worry about is Alonso now.

JPM, MS and all others are out of the title hunt, whether they admit it or not.

Though this does help Renault's constructor hopes.
 

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