Getting Fallout 3 - PS3 vs. XBOX360

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So I'm completely blown away by this game, and I'm planning on getting a console purely because of this game. However, a PC is far too expensive to even consider, so it has come down to a 'Box360 or a PS3.

PS3 pros:
- known with the console and the controller
- all my consoles have been Sony's
- GT5

PS3 cons:
- worse Fallout 3 graphics than 'Box
- no downloable content
- price

'Box 360 pros:
- 3 planned packages for download this year
- cheap
- Fable 2

'Box 360 cons:
- no experience with the console
- never played with the controller before


Price for a PS3 here is 4,000 kroners, while the XBOX 360 is priced at 1,500. As you see, MUCH cheaper AND better graphics for the game. I loved Fable TLC on the PC, and I'd love to give it a go on the 360. I'll be missing out on GT5 though, but the date hasn't been confirmed yet for release. I also didn't like the PS3 players are not getting the 3 downloable packages for Fallout 3, which are rumoured to have a couple of hours more to play than the original version.

So, what do you guys think?
 
I think to make your decision you have to also take into account whats 'further down the road' for each console. Yes Fallout 3 is your current priority but what exclusives will each system have that you might be interested in the future? For example if your really looking foreward to GT5 then a PS3 would be a logicial choice and vice versa for a 360 title.

I think in terms of just Fallout 3 the 360 is probably the better choice because it does look slightly better than the PS3 version and it will have DLC. Im sure however that some of the guys who have bought Fallout 3 on PS3 can advise you better on how much of a difference there really is... its still an excellent game from what ive heard on both formats.

Going from an all Sony console history to Xbox shouldnt be a problem, ive seen enough mates jump ship to 360 in this generation! The controller could get a little getting used to but for pure gaming it shouldnt be any problem. The PS3 is more of an all purpose media device.

Personally ive always had Playstation's and it was a no brainer for me to buy a PS3 because I liked the extra things it did (blu ray etc) and I also liked the way it looked. :sly: At the time no exclusives took my fancy and I bought it purely on its technical merits.

At the end of the day you have to look at how much mileage you think your going to get out of Fallout 3 to justify purchasing one console over another.

I hope this helps somewhat 👍 :)

Robin.
 
Thanks for the excellent post Robin 👍

Like I stated in the pros and cons, future games are GT5 and Fable 2. I loved Fable: The Lost Chapters, and with the new features it's a lovely game. If GT5 keeps on going like GT4 (no major new features like weather changes, etc.) than I'm definitly going for Fable 2.

On Fallout mileage, I think it will take me a while to complete the game. I'm planning on getting the game, but I am not buying the game to let it take control over my homework. I'll only be playing when I've got nothing else to do. And with the new surround sound installation at home, I'll mostly be playing this game only in weekends when everyone is in bed, so I can enjoy the graphics AND the surround sound :) Also, I have a little brother and sister, so playing this game while they can watch it is a big no no...
 
Without this turning into another console war thread, the reason I bought a PS3 without considering X360 included:

- "free" Blu Ray player
- PSN is free, XBOX Live is not

If you're looking at it from a cost perspective, with online play included, PS3/PSN overcomes the initial purchase price disadvantage very quickly. I don't have the figures to hand, but it's under two years.
 
Well I bought the PS3 in the mind of, I just wanted GT5P at the time. However I've found many other games which I love since, infact many of them more than GT5P. As Giles mentioned the blu ray player is a great plus, even if you think you won't use it (which I did) I soon got myself a Blu-Ray Movie and watched it, it was simply phenomenal. I mean I've played the 360 for a bit, and to be honest wasn't that thrilled with it, the PS3 to me feels completely different. Sure it has a couple of downsides but none which have effected me that much. My only probelm was heat, but even still the 360 has that probelm too, and I resolved my probelm by making sure the fans at the front have plenty of room to suck air in. Since then I've never had a probelm with the PS3. Anyway, pick the console which has the most games you want on it, and perhaps research into some of the other games on PS3 too, there are more than just Gran Turismo on it.
 
Without this turning into another console war thread, the reason I bought a PS3 without considering X360 included:

- "free" Blu Ray player
- PSN is free, XBOX Live is not

If you're looking at it from a cost perspective, with online play included, PS3/PSN overcomes the initial purchase price disadvantage very quickly. I don't have the figures to hand, but it's under two years.

Wise to write that, I was afraid this might turn into a flame war...

On that, do you have to pay for Live when it's not in use? I cannot imagine paying for something if I don't use it (except for the Fallout expansion packages ofcourse)

Well I bought the PS3 in the mind of, I just wanted GT5P at the time. However I've found many other games which I love since, infact many of them more than GT5P. As Giles mentioned the blu ray player is a great plus, even if you think you won't use it (which I did) I soon got myself a Blu-Ray Movie and watched it, it was simply phenomenal. I mean I've played the 360 for a bit, and to be honest wasn't that thrilled with it, the PS3 to me feels completely different. Sure it has a couple of downsides but none which have effected me that much. My only probelm was heat, but even still the 360 has that probelm too, and I resolved my probelm by making sure the fans at the front have plenty of room to suck air in. Since then I've never had a probelm with the PS3. Anyway, pick the console which has the most games you want on it, and perhaps research into some of the other games on PS3 too, there are more than just Gran Turismo on it.

I never watch movies on any console. We have a lot of TV channels, and at least twice a week there's a good movie on telly. Also, if I'd have to buy each Blu-Ray movie I'd like to have, I think the price disadvantage will become even greater. I can't be bothered about the Blu-Ray stuff really.
 
On that, do you have to pay for Live when it's not in use? I cannot imagine paying for something if I don't use it (except for the Fallout expansion packages ofcourse)

Xbox Live is a subscription service, not pay-for-play or anything like that.

I never watch movies on any console. We have a lot of TV channels, and at least twice a week there's a good movie on telly. Also, if I'd have to buy each Blu-Ray movie I'd like to have, I think the price disadvantage will become even greater. I can't be bothered about the Blu-Ray stuff really.

You've clearly never seen a Blu-ray before. Do you own an HDTV? Do you have a surround sound system?

If technology is not really your bag (considering how you feel about blu-rays), then i would probably go for the 360 in your case. The PS3 has a lot of features you might never use.

Oh and FWIW, i think Fallout looks substantially better on the PS3. Somewhere in the Fallout 3 thread there is a collection of pictures that show that. But, it's clearly a matter of opinion. So don't make graphics your only purchasing point. They're not totally different on either system.
 
Wise to write that, I was afraid this might turn into a flame war...

On that, do you have to pay for Live when it's not in use? I cannot imagine paying for something if I don't use it (except for the Fallout expansion packages ofcourse)



I never watch movies on any console. We have a lot of TV channels, and at least twice a week there's a good movie on telly. Also, if I'd have to buy each Blu-Ray movie I'd like to have, I think the price disadvantage will become even greater. I can't be bothered about the Blu-Ray stuff really.

Blu Ray is worth it, especially if you have good gear. I went from a mid-range DVD player to a PS3 (which would be considered a downgrade by A/V enthusiasts, and the quality is massively improved in both picture and audio.
 
I have to agree that if you have an HDTV and a surround sound system that blu ray is worth it even with just a 720P tv. Movies on TV are compressesed, the source is often questionable and the sound often isn't even surround sound and sometimes when it is a surround sound signal it was converted from dolby pro-logic. The PS3 is a very good dvd and blu-ray player. My upscaling dvd player doesn't even get used anymore.

It sounds like the games you want are evenly spaced between the two systems so that won't help you decide unless you really want one that is only available on one system (e.g. GT5).

I suggest that you take a close look at the prices and the extras that you are going to want before deciding. For me, blu-ray, wireless, a hard drive, hdmi, online were all important to some extent. This made the PS3 a much better value than the equivalent 360. your choice may be different.

I don't buy the blu-ray price disadvantage. First, you could rent blu-rays. Two, nothing is forcing you to buy them.
 
I don't buy the blu-ray price disadvantage. First, you could rent blu-rays.

Not in my town. Blu-ray is not being fully taken into use here, and renting is mostly VCC and DVD. So, no Blu-Ray.

Two, nothing is forcing you to buy them.

Then what is the point of getting a Blu-Ray player in the first place?


On that, the TV is a 32" Panasonic Viera. Though it's actually an LCD-TV, it's HD-ready, supporting up to 1080p HD format. I'm not really into TV's, but I do care for sound. The surround sound system of Sony we've got right now kicks ass, so that does not need any change.
 
About the 'worse' graphics for the PS3 version of Fallout 3: check the Fallout 3 topic for some links to other reviews. Even though the Xbox 360 version has better anti-aliasing, the textures and normal maps ('depth' in textures) appear to be better on PS3. I have played both and really, the differences are very small. I most certainly wouldn't base my choice for buying a console based on that. :)

I would just look at what exclusives you really want to play, now and in the future, and let that be the decisive factor. All the other games you can play on any of the two.
 
Like NLx said, I would choose what exclusive PS3 games you think you want: then if there are alot of them then get the PS3. Then look at the 360's exclusive games, if you want lots of those then go for the 360.

I own both consoles and in my opinion I'd go for the PS3. But the 360 is very good, too.
 
I think you will be very happy with the 360. Plus xboxlive is only $4.00 a month. If you do get a 360 make sure you get one with at least a 20gb hard drive.
The PS3 is also a good system and I am sure the graphics wont be very noticible between the 2 systems. However if you cant fully utilize the Bluray then you are missing one of the really good features of the PS3.
 
not a spoiler, but i played and beat fallout 3 for ps3. AWESOME game. And the graphics were pretty good. I was expecting them to be a little better on a next generation console HD, but the gameplay/story well makes up for the lack of graphics. I really loved the exploring of the wasteland. But the END was not what i was expecting. and kind of let me down. That does suck the ps3 doesn't have the download content. As far as ONLINE gaming goes xbox360 BLOWS playstation network out of the water. I would GLADLY pay 50.00USD a year for the type xbox live experience on ps3. There's just no comparison.

I also purchased the ps3 solely for MGS4 and ofcourse the #1 reason GT5. You could get the xbox360 and by the time GT5 comes out, put away money each month go get the PS3.

IMO as far as GAMING goes, xbox360 is the better console, as far as multi-media the ps3 is great AND it's a blu-ray player. Most of the multi-platform games end up looking better on the xbox360. Maybe because the ps3 versions are ports of the xbox360 games? Good luck deciding, i can't see you going wrong with either decision. :)👍
 
To me the difference in graphics are irrelevant. I'm playing it on PS3 and they are good regardless of not being as good as other versions. The PS3 benefits out weight better graphics that wont be noticed when you're blasting away with the V.A.T.S. system.
 
I think a 360 is a better choice given your situation, but if you get it take CB69's advice and get one with a 20GB drive or more.

Don't you only have to pay a fee if you play online multiplayer? Since FO3 DLC isn't multiplayer, you'll only have to pay for the DLC. I think.

The 360 controller is fine, it feels more comfortable in my hands than a DS3, I just don't like the the D-Pad and ABXY buttons. The 360 controller also makes my hands sweat :odd:
 
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Thanks for responding guys 👍

As for the hard drive, I took a look at the Box that was so cheap only to find out it was an Arcade console with 256 Mb hard drive. So I went back and looked at the 60 Gb hard drive version, and it was only a 100 bucks more expensive!

Since I'm not going to use the console as a multi-media platform (I'm sticking with my DVD player, no need to throw it in the dust when it's still brandnew), the Box pretty much has a current advantage in personal preference. Now I'm only deciding between titles for each consoles. Loving Fable 2, loving FO3, loving Killzone 2, probably, and hopefully loving GT5, but we'll see. I'm waiting a bit more to see what's planned for each console, and will then make a decision 👍
 
Like NLx said, I would choose what exclusive PS3 games you think you want: then if there are alot of them then get the PS3. Then look at the 360's exclusive games, if you want lots of those then go for the 360.

I own both consoles and in my opinion I'd go for the PS3. But the 360 is very good, too.


I too own both, and recently gave the PS3 recommendation to my brother in law, since he wants the Blu-Ray. However if you are not going to use it the 360 may be you best bet, plus you should have enough time to save and buy PS3 before GT5 comes out.
 
The only thing I can add to this is that I see you are wanting to get DLC. I am assuming that means you will have the console online.

If you need the console to be able to access wireless Internet that is another $100 add-on to the 360. In the US that puts it at the same price as the PS3.

If that doesn't factor in, or still doesn't change the pricing situation for you, then I say go for the 360 as the added expense of the PS3 is for features you don't seem likely use.

Also, while Live is $50 a year, that is only if you want to play online. With the games you are looking at I don't think that will be something you will be doing.

And then, as others have said, start saving up for a PS3. Hopefully by the time you have enough money for it saved up GT5 will be out and you will have easy access to Blu-Rays.
 
Is not that I don't have the money for either of them, but I one of those guys who hate spending money :lol:

I'm not an online player though, it's purely the 3 packages for FO3 on the Box that are macking me doubting. If the PS3 users would also get those expansion packages, the choice would've been a long time ago...
 
Well yeah more gameplay obviously, but what specifically? More story mode missions, or just more side quests? And what are you supposed to do if you finished the game already? Is the DLC completely seperate from the story?

What would be really sweet is if there were some missions in the past, before and during the time that the bombs fell. But that seems like too much. Especially for Xbox-exclusive content.
 
Also, while Live is $50 a year, that is only if you want to play online. With the games you are looking at I don't think that will be something you will be doing.

Definitely agree that for back of the envelope calculations $50 per year is a good figure to use, but for the OP I'd like to point out that in reality a Live Gold Membership (at least the 1st year) can be had for less than that. IE Amazon currently has a 13 month Gold card listed for $38.99. Last week it was even cheaper, like $29.99 if memory serves, although $11 of savings over a year isn't that big of a deal but just for completions sake I wanted to note it.
 
Now all I'm wondering is why this is in the PlayStation 3 section and not Gaming In General.

No offense intended to the thread starter, this is just clearly not a PS3 discussion any more then it is a 360 discussion.
 
What exactly are going to be in those FO3 DLC packages, anyway?

I head that the first expansion package will offer five hours of extra gameplay, and new areas. I do not remember though if it's the main quest or the side quests that take you through these new areas.

On that, this thread can be closed now, no need for any more posts. It's just a matter of making up my mind now :)
 
No need for closure, other people might be wondering how Fallout compares on the 2 consoles. I've had a nice little read through myself.
 
One more thing, a lot of PS3-specific graphical issues that you may have read about online have since been patched. So it may not be entirely accurate for someone reading a review of the game when it came out. However, game reviewers shouldn't need to revise the review or score after a patch, so Bethesda kind of brought it on themselves.

I wonder how games like the newest SOCOM would score now it's had several huge patches...
 
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