Getting Gold On X1 challange. Are we supposed to beleive Vettel done it without SR?

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Just did this tonight. C'mon, thats just not right, right? Something feels very out of place here.
The difficulty curve is like 100 times anything else in GT. Getting all gold on licences Is like childsplay compared to this, and even for a concept theory car, Its just too out of touch with reality.

After my first few attempts, I managed a bronze without too much difficulty and as ussual with skid recovery off , but I''m used to going for all golds, and I realised GOLD just seems WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too far out of reach.
So after moving on to the next one I decided this is way to insane and I turned on skid recovery since I figured thats what everyone would do just so i stop getting bronze.

Well After many attempts maybe 20-30, I STILL found it difficult, even with skid recovery, mainly becasue I could never finish a lap.
After all the scew ups I managed to complete a full 2 laps and I was very close to silver on susuka, just needed to go a little faster, but I realised even with skid recovery I see it as next to impossible to get GOLD. Nuburgb for me was the hardest.

I could see myself getting silver with Skid Recory on all of them after some solid attempts, but even that is a very diffcult task.

So hold on, are we expected to be getting gold without SKid Recovery!!:scared:
Sebastian Vettel is a pro driver and is represnted in the game and obviously real life that way, And I've always though of skid recovery for noobs or cassual players, so He wouldn't use skid recovery? Right?

But are we supposed to beleive his ghost lap time is him actually playing GT5 and doing those challanges with skid recovery off th same way we do??
If so I wonder how long it took him to get the Gold times, and if it was all done in one playing session I tip my hat to him Because this is damn hard.

So whats the best you guys think you can without dedicating way too much time to it?
Did they purposely make gold so unreachable to make it seem as daunting and skillfull as possible to make it cooler? Or is vettel really that good?

Me, The highest I see atm, only bronze without skid recovery. Highest silver with Skid recovery. Maybe there is a lot of room for imporvement but the pace and handling of the controls are just insanse you cant just do it at ease.

For tonight just I got the X1 and fleed.
 
damn I assumed that would be the case? What did he get then? Cos I certainly didnt catch him.

And if he didnt, who did? Surely PD tested they are reasnably attainable.

Do you get any extra reward for all gold? Not just money and XP, maybe like a X1, umm Race modded version lol?
 
...not only does he drive it, but he wins the most prestigious motorsport championship in a car without TCS.
 
Is there confirmation somewhere that these challenge (Loeb, Vettel, Gordan) are done by the respective driver? Or PD just have the permission to use their name for the challenge and use the "Gold time driver" for those time?
 
Why would Sebastian Vettel use Skid Recovery? If gamers like us can gold the event without it, there's no way a F1 world champion would use it as well. Now, if he used ABS = 0 or not, that I can't vouch for.

Heck, even the times I pulled in the X1 event weren't the best practical times I could have obtained. 2:09.795 at Suzuka is far from the theoretical best time my two best partials were, 1:05.233 and 1:04.034, which would have been a 2:09.267 lap.
 
Well I know in that one vid, Vettel got a lap time 1:04.xxx on the GP/F course with the X1. Pretty nuts. I don't modify any of the car settings for these tests and challenges. They're all doable and driving the X1 is extremely fun so I don't care that it's difficult. Actually, I'm glad that it is. I love a challenge.
 
Jay
Vettel didn't get gold on his runs/ghost.
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He's miles off gold

His real Nurburgring lap is 1'04.8xx as seen in the promotional video.

The game requires at minimum 2 consecutive 1'.03.9xx laps for gold.

You dont jave to beat him you have to crush him.

1 second at X1 speeds equals roughly 1.5 seconds at F1 speeds
 
Earth
He's miles off gold

His real Nurburgring lap is 1'04.8xx as seen in the promotional video.

The game requires at minimum 2 consecutive 1'.03.9xx laps for gold.

You dont jave to beat him you have to crush him.

1 second at X1 speeds equals roughly 1.5 seconds at F1 speeds
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You're assuming that the lap in the promotional video was his best attempt. Which is quite a big assumption.
 
Earth
He's miles off gold

His real Nurburgring lap is 1'04.8xx as seen in the promotional video.

The game requires at minimum 2 consecutive 1'.03.9xx laps for gold.

You dont jave to beat him you have to crush him.

1 second at X1 speeds equals roughly 1.5 seconds at F1 speeds
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Actually, you can do the Nurburgring gold time with the first lap above 1:03.9xx, just not by much.

In my gold run, the first lap was 1:04.088 and the second lap was 1:03.800 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnwBZH9PxCw
 
although SV isn't the driver i'm "cheering" for in the F1 Championship, i wouldn't doubt he did these challenges for real without any of the driving aids. the guy isn't a world champion for nothing.

and i don't know about the others but i found the aids to be of little effect to the X1. mainly because the X1 already has tons of grips and rarely spins. the only time i spun in this car is when i touch the kerbs/grass/dirt while cornering and pushing hard. even mashing the throttle won't spin the damned car despite having 1500hp!
 
I tried for 2hrs last night and an hour here this morning. Nurburg is hardest to gold. I've got silver and I'm .147 sec too slow for gold! Errrrr
 
i saved some time going faster on the turns after the schumacher S, and the last chicane just before the last turn going to the finish line.

PS: you can actually cut the chicane with the movable white polyphony barriers.
 
Shaneman
I tried for 2hrs last night and an hour here this morning. Nurburg is hardest to gold. I've got silver and I'm .147 sec too slow for gold! Errrrr
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I think it varies from person to person. Nurburgring only took me two hours to gold, my first finished attempt at it left me only .2 sec away from gold. On the other hand, Suzuka took me over 5 hours to gold, over the span of two days.

Monza is pretty darn easy though.
 
Scratch that. Just got GOLD!! 2:07:957!! Gimme that carbon joint!
@novice. I was spinning out hitting the curb. The KEY is keeping the car on a flat surface unless cutting a corner hot.

Trac: off
Skid: on
Steer assist: off
Asm: off
Abs: 10!!!
 
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Abriael
You're assuming that the lap in the promotional video was his best attempt. Which is quite a big assumption.
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PD used that time to promote the car on numerous places and occasions, if he had done better they would have talked about the faster time. I doubt they had Vettel for more than a day to try the X1, he's a Formula one driver not a couch surfer, he doesn't have time to waste time on a game, even in the off season, I would be very surprised that he personnaly did those times, not that he can't but he didn't, I even doubt he drove around Suzuka and Monza.

By the way, gold is very doable with a steering wheel. I took my cockpit out yesterday to get the X1, after numerous fail attempt with a controller. I got gold in Monza, silver in Nurburing with .5 second over gold, and bronze on Suzuka within 1 second of silver, it took around 4 hours total. I'm not the best out there and getting gold or that close within an afternoon means it is very feasible. Consider yourself lucky you don't have to practice for a week on a simulator (GT5 in this case) to get every corner perfect.

If you look at the ghost replays, the ghost doesn't seem to be using skid recovery, but the car is thrown over some curbs whereas reality would spun the car, moreso the skid recovery doesn't do much difference with the X1 since it almost never loss grip. What disturb me the most is how the Formula Gran Turismo constantly overheats the soft racing tires under braking, acceleration and cornering under less Gs than what the X1 accomplish with a lot less overheating.
 
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AC13_JohnG
I'm amused that people are comparing themselves to the current formula one champion.
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I may be wrong here, but weren't people before saying that Vettel's skill is way above using Skid Recovery? I didn't see anyone comparing themselves to him.
 
LOL. People are using the time he got in the X1 promotional vid, and think that that is the fastest time Vettel could put out? You do remember that part of that whole spiel was that he was able to crush Schumachers fastest time in an F1 car by 14 seconds, and that it only took him a few tries to do it right?
 
Does anyone else feel like the X1 steering is strange or unpredictable? I'm using a DFGT, and I swear sometimes I'll take a curve by turning the wheel (say) 30 degrees... and then I'll come up to another turn that looks the same, turn the wheel (what feels like) the same, and the car just flies off the road in the direction I turned! Even if I was going a different speed, assuming that I had full grip on both corners, an equal turn of the steering wheel should result in the same degree of cornering, correct? It almost seems like some kind of "steering acceleration" is in effect, the way mouse acceleration works.

So far I have one bronze. :(

Edit: Are people with golds braking while still giving it some gas? I've seen that mentioned before, and from watching the examples in the game it looks like Vettel does it too, but I don't know how to program my brain for that.
 
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Apollo, my advice would be to watch a YouTube video of a gold run. It's very intense but the drivers remain chill!
 
Apollo33
Does anyone else feel like the X1 steering is strange or unpredictable? I'm using a DFGT, and I swear sometimes I'll take a curve by turning the wheel (say) 30 degrees... and then I'll come up to another turn that looks the same, turn the wheel (what feels like) the same, and the car just flies off the road in the direction I turned! Even if I was going a different speed, assuming that I had full grip on both corners, an equal turn of the steering wheel should result in the same degree of cornering, correct? It almost seems like some kind of "steering acceleration" is in effect, the way mouse acceleration works.

So far I have one bronze. :(

Edit: Are people with golds braking while still giving it some gas? I've seen that mentioned before, and from watching the examples in the game it looks like Vettel does it too, but I don't know how to program my brain for that.
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Actually, I always accelerated after applying the brakes, never both at the same time. This allows you to "throw" the X1 around the corners, since it has massive grip, without losing the line nor the speed.

Also one of the fundamentals to control the X1 is sensible acceleration. Keeping your acceleration at 50-75% during most corners will allow you to perform minute line corrections that can be fundamental to get the better exit speed out of the apex.

As for the steering itself, it's something you've got to get used. The massive grip of the X1 means that even tiny speed changes in the order of 10-20 km/h could mean a huge increase of steering to the inside/outside of the corner. Try to keep your speed steady inside the corners until you get used to the feeling of the car. I also drive with a DFGT, and with a FFB of 10 which allows me to get a more "precise" feeling of when i'm pushing too hard or being too lenient with my steering.
 
Really, it is a big differande driving in games and in real life, games have no real physical laws. Very good drivers in real life would suck at console game though.
 
Apollo33
Does anyone else feel like the X1 steering is strange or unpredictable? I'm using a DFGT, and I swear sometimes I'll take a curve by turning the wheel (say) 30 degrees... and then I'll come up to another turn that looks the same, turn the wheel (what feels like) the same, and the car just flies off the road in the direction I turned! Even if I was going a different speed, assuming that I had full grip on both corners, an equal turn of the steering wheel should result in the same degree of cornering, correct? It almost seems like some kind of "steering acceleration" is in effect, the way mouse acceleration works.

So far I have one bronze. :(

Edit: Are people with golds braking while still giving it some gas? I've seen that mentioned before, and from watching the examples in the game it looks like Vettel does it too, but I don't know how to program my brain for that.
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you said it, it's actually the difference in speed and or if you go over the dirt/kerbs/grass. the latter is a bit self-explanatory, the X1 justrelies heavily on aerodynamics and the vacuum-ala-Chaparral2J. so if anything breaks the efficiency of those two, the loss of traction is quick and sudden. try staying in the track and don't cut kerbs and corners, it's actually faster. using late apex-ing for better exit speed is also useful.

and for the former, if you haven't noticed, the X1 is actually easier to drive the faster it goes. that's because of grip due to aerodynamics.
 
The x1 was waste of resources, its only a model based on theoretical facts. Those cars arent worth anything to me.
 

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