Going Faster Without More Power

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Just a little thread to show you can go FASTER without more power on the track.

I did not do it over any particular amount of laps, only until it proved my mods actually made the car faster around the track.

The settings were as follows:

No driving aids
Manual transmission
And using a Logitec DFP

Track - Tsukuba Circuit

No real reason for choosing this track, except for it seems to be popular in Japan and on the Best Motoring Video's! :dopey:

Car - Honda NSX-R

Bit of a change from turbo charged cars and I think its all round performance, especially its cornering speed is great, even in stock form.

Test 1 - Stock Car Performance

OK, in stock form I ran a 1'01.542 lap. Not sure how this compares to other players and cars in stock form, but this is the time we will work from.

Test 2 - Racing Brakes And Sports/Soft Tyre Upgrades

I found that I could brake later into corners where needed and follow the racing line more closely with less understeer.

After a few laps, I set a time of 1'00.592

Test 3 - Fully Customisable Suspension

Not sure if applying this setup automatically lowers the car or not, but the vehicle felt more rigid around corners and there was far less understeer.

After this modification I set a lap time of 1'00.370. I then decided to try lowering the car by 10mm to see if this improved the handling, thus the laptime at all.
I immediately felt improved car handling, but only improved on 0.96 of a second, setting a lap time of 1'00.274

Not a massive improvement, but maybe I'm getting tired now? :crazy:

Test 4 - Weight Reduction

This was a stage 1 weight reduction, which is the removal of the back seats, but I believe the NSX-R doesnt have any, so we'll pretend we fitted some carbon fibre bucket seats and binned the air con! :)

There was a weight loss from 1270kg to 1155kg. This should improve cornering speeds and overall accelaration and from racing with my ghost, the car did pickup faster, however, I did not manage to beat my previous best of 1'00.274, but I believe If I had kept trying I would of!

So there we have it, you can go faster, without more power!

Later, I will try other modification, such as more weight reduction, lowering the ride height further and downforce etc.

I am going on holiday tomorrow for a week, so more tests then!
 
Nice w/u. Pitty you added the tires and racing brakes at the same time. Other members have obtained some pretty solid data which appears to proove that the racing brakes do absolutly nothing. I personally agree with their conclutions, but more data is never a bad thing :D.
 
It's kinda... well... obvious that tuning a by upgrading suspension, tires, weight, rigidity, etc. makes it faster around a track.

Only somebody who knows NOTHING about racing would doubt it. :dunce:
 
luftrofl
It's kinda... well... obvious that tuning a by upgrading suspension, tires, weight, rigidity, etc. makes it faster around a track.

Only somebody who knows NOTHING about racing would doubt it. :dunce:
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yes but fair play to him for trying. possibly a better test would have included installing just one upgrade at a time to try to work out the most efficient upgrades. then also maybe a laptime/credit improvement chart.
 
There was someone a while back who refused to believe there was such a thing as "drafting". If memory serves, the entire community was floored. We had no responce. So people not believing that you can "go faster" without adding horse power are more prevelant than you might imagine.

It's not about how much power you have - it's about how you deliver that power to the ground.
 
Emohawk
Nice w/u. Pitty you added the tires and racing brakes at the same time. Other members have obtained some pretty solid data which appears to proove that the racing brakes do absolutly nothing. I personally agree with their conclutions, but more data is never a bad thing :D.
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speed_freak
someone should test a car with stock brakes and racing brakes because i think they dont do ****.
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Emohawk, I quite agree that its a bit unusual to test two upgrades together, paticularly as the other two tests were carried out with only one upgraded added.

Still its good to see some new members getting to grips with testing in GT4.

I was one of the people that Emohawk mentioned who hase carried out tests compairing stock brakes to racing brakes (the other being Fido69) and we both concluded that racing brakes seem to provide no mesurable advantage.

Fido69's Racing brake test

Scaff's Racing Brake test

Now Fido69 and my finding are consistent with the real world in that bigger brakes and better pads will not reduce your stopping distance if your current brakes are up to the job. Uprated brakes give you less brake fade (which is not modelledin GT4) and better modulation and feel (which may account for the interesting effect I had in my test).

Why bigger discs don't stop you quicker


I'm quite sure that the gains you got in the first test came from the upgraded tyres you fitted. These will reduce stopping distances, improve cornering, etc.

A lot of this has been discussed in the GT4 & Brakes thread, its quite big at 20+ pages. However the first post does contain a guide and set of links to allte best bits and a lot of links to real world information on braking and other subjects (quite a bit on tyres and brake balance).

Regards

Scaff
 
GeeUK
Track - Tsukuba Circuit

No real reason for choosing this track, except for it seems to be popular in Japan and on the Best Motoring Video's! :dopey:
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The reason it is used on Best Motoring is because they own it... in otherwords, the owner of the track also produces those videos. So they use the track for free.
 

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