Got a good tune for that car?

[KnuckleDuster]

How many of you have allready been asked this question?

Well i have a lot, and i allways share my settings with no problem whatsoever because all my cars have settings done by me.
I´m not a "GT5 King", but i´m proper fast, so when i host or join a room and put a good lap in quali or win a race, comes from someone the question that is tittle for this thread.

Thing is people don´t seem to get that settings suit driver not the car.

Obviously when you have no ideia on how to setup a car, getting the settings from someone who does, is good but for a starting point from where u fine tune it.
If it wasnt like this why would a racing team with same car/motorcycle for 2/3 drivers do test/practice track days? They would set it up with test driver and racing engineer and give it to pilots as all done, fit all style with no need to tweak anything.

When i share my settings one of two things happen:
1-"Thanks a lot for the setup mate, only put one lap and i´m allready faster"
2-"Thanks a lot but got even worse than with the one i had"
wich i think proves what i´m saying.

The way you drive affects the way you set your car, beeing a mith having a magic setup💡. Example:
1-do u feed in the throttle or you use throtle more like an on/off switch?
2-do you carry your branking into the corner or only brake in straight line?
3-do you use throtle to help your car do the corner or you off throtle and only steering?
4-you gentle on your steer or sudden move type?
etc,etc...

Same setting can never work with those differences in driving style.

Take care all and good races.

 

[boshuter]

One piece of advice.... "spell check". The computer will do it for you, no need for you to try to learn it on your own.

 

[KnuckleDuster]

One piece of advice.... "spell check". The computer will do it for you, no need for you to try to learn it on your own.

Thanks for the advice, and sorry for the errors if that many...probably you couldn´t even understand the message...
I´m portuguese so english not my native tongue, bet you master portuguese and wouldn´t get one bad word/sentence when writing in portuguese...well my bad for beeing ignorant

And by the way boshuter, your reply brought loads of added value to this thread. 👍

 

[grubymike]

Thanks for the advice, and sorry for the errors if that many...probably you couldn´t even understand the message...
I´m portuguese so english not my native tongue, bet you master portuguese and wouldn´t get one bad word/sentence when writing in portuguese...well my bad for beeing ignorant

I LIKE!
regards

 

[Divinus]

A lot,

I understand totally what you are saying. There are a lot of variables, beside the car, to use as an input to your tunning, being the driver one of them. The track, and tires used should be used as well.

However, the input produced by the driver variable is very unique as it will define the personality of the car, it will give it the finesse, or you can just call it fine tune. This variable is the most subjective and follows the user taste/choice method (hihi).

Analyzing the thread tittle: Well i think you can answer with a tuning base for car with at least the tires, the track or both variables defined. Although it's not correct to give absolut numbers, because of the fine tuning argument used, with wich i agree) you can allways give some indications:

Example:
SLS
Racing Soft

Indications: You need to increase spring rate and other stuff to make your body/suspension more rigid. You also should increase your camber for a value between 0.5 and 3.5 or something. This because you will get more grip from the tires. You should also lower your height.

Anyways in most cases people want the whole data and not some indications, so waht you have written is absolutly true.

Divinus

 

[uncle_hayley_j]

I get asked every time I go for a muck about on the Top Gear Track (my favourite pass time if honest, despite how uncivilised it seems to be ), I tune every 'favourite' car I have, and as they come and go, I've probably got 200 fully fine-tuned cars, and my style differs from car-to-car, for example;

Mustang Mach 1 - Throttle is on-off switch, due to it being a nice sideways acting car and the sound is awesome, plus it looks cool with a plume of smoke a mile behind.
Honda Civic Type R '08 - Throttle is feathered, although it can be used one and off, but it does pull wide.
Mercedes C63 AMG - Definitely feather the throttle, that thing whips sideways with any bad throttle modulation.

Most people tend to be on-off with the throttle who ask for tunes, because they don't know how to tune cars so need others to do it for them, and they don't really know how to drive properly (this isn't general, I know there's people who can race without knowing much about what springs do and such), so it's kind of annoying when you tell them the tune, and they complain because the thing goes in circles despite the fact the thing has 800bhp >_>

 

[thechosenwonton]

Yeah - some folks also don't realize that a 700hp car on sport hards and no downforce requires more than a "tune" to drive quickly. It ain't magic. I practice.

 

[RockRoadKid]

I have to agree, also. When the Expert Challenges came up, I tried to take a shortcut and tried a "guaranteed" Fiat 500 tune from this site and it completely failed me. No offense meant to the member who posted it, I'm sure it worked as advertised for him, but I ended up going back to the drawing board and doing it for myself (like I should have done in the first place). Getting a tune from someone else should be considered "advice" or a starting point and nothing more. As it's been said on this thread already, what works for one, doesn't necessarily work for another. Not to say that I haven't had some success with tunes taken from this site, (big thanks to all those members who post their tunes 👍) as well as ones given to me in online rooms, but to expect miracles just isn't realistic. As thechosenwonton just said; PRACTICE!

 

[PAPPACLART]

Good points. I used to go and search for Tunes on GTP, and I think only one or 2 have worked well for me. I use a pad, and I guess like everyone I have my own unique style of driving. There are some set ups that can drastically improve a car for all, but getting that extra 3/10ths out of a car on a track; the level of tweaking needs to be quite extreme and unique to ones driving style. Using a pad with High powered MR cars takes some getting used to if you want to be fast. I have to fettle allot, and come up with some quite funky set ups, but they work for me.


And boshuter, don't be so ignorant. I am an English guy living in Italy, and I am trying to learn Italian. I can barely speak it let alone write. It’s very difficult to learn another language. This forum is full of smart ass people with smart ass comments. I could write a sentence in Italian now, I would likely make a ton of mistakes, even if I did use a spell checker, how would I know it was correct? Portuguese is a Latin language like Italian, Spanish and French, Verbs/grammar is totally different, Not like you can use Google translate, as it only generally works for smaller sentences.

Its quite destroying when you may be trying really hard to write something in another language and then a smart ass comment chimes in!! When I try to speak in Italian, I am always self-conscious that somebody may laugh at me. Do yourself a favour, and write your next response in Portuguese?

PS

I actually joined a few motorcycle forums in Italy, I tried to write in Italian, it was awful, but everybody was encouraging me, and helping me out. I guess that they were happy to see me making the effort. Why are we native English speakers so arrogant!!

 

[uncle_hayley_j]

I actually joined a few motorcycle forums in Italy, I tried to write in Italian, it was awful, but everybody was encouraging me, and helping me out. I guess that they were happy to see me making the effort. Why are we native English speakers so arrogant!!

Because everyone should learn to speak English from birth, clearly. It does seem that we English speaking folk (who's first language is English) are pretty ignorant of how different our language is to others, how complex our language is and also seem to be only one's fussing over spelling and grammer, is it really that bad if someone doesn't spell something correctly or misses some grammar? I'm guessing if you picked up the spelling of grammar first time, you need to re-evaluate your priorities >_>

I say to heck with it, if you're willing to try and learn a language and are willing to communicate in it to the best of your ability then hat's off to you, it's more than most English speaking people would do >_>

Back on topic, someone just plagued me for an hour to give them my tune for my Pug 908 for the seasonals, they tried it and then complained when they couldn't keep it on track, even at just under 400bhp >_>

 

[yoman297]

Try the GT5 Quick tune, search it, it should be on the first couple of pages.

Honestly, I tried the RKM Honda NSX 3rd Anniversary tune, and I couldn't drive it on Cote d'Azur. Don't care who the tuner is, it's just a matter of trial and error when it comes to tuning for me...

 

[RockRoadKid]

Because everyone should learn to speak English from birth, clearly. It does seem that we English speaking folk (who's first language is English) are pretty ignorant of how different our language is to others, how complex our language is and also seem to be only one's fussing over spelling and grammer, is it really that bad if someone doesn't spell something correctly or misses some grammar? I'm guessing if you picked up the spelling of grammar first time, you need to re-evaluate your priorities >_>

I say to heck with it, if you're willing to try and learn a language and are willing to communicate in it to the best of your ability then hat's off to you, it's more than most English speaking people would do >_>

Back on topic, someone just plagued me for an hour to give them my tune for my Pug 908 for the seasonals, they tried it and then complained when they couldn't keep it on track, even at just under 400bhp >_>

Two things:

1) The funny thing is, a lot of people for whom English is the primary language can't write in it or, in some cases, speak it worth a crap.

2) (On topic) Don't you just love it when someone hassles you for a tune then has the nerve to complain that it doesn't work for them as well as it works for you?

Hell of a world we live in, huh?

 

[HippieGiraffe]

Try the GT5 Quick tune, search it, it should be on the first couple of pages.

Honestly, I tried the RKM Honda NSX 3rd Anniversary tune, and I couldn't drive it on Cote d'Azur. Don't care who the tuner is, it's just a matter of trial and error when it comes to tuning for me...

Ditto. The last month or so I haven't even been bothered to look up tunes. I simply rock the stocker and improve on it from there. Gives me a better idea of any increase in speed and/or drop in time. Not to mention that is how everyone should be tuning.

Actually, I would prefer what F1:CE had. If anyone here played (or still does) should know what I'm on about. Anyway, you show up to a race and while running the first couple of practice rounds, your team dials in the car. You get a list of specific areas to tweak (downforce, camber/caster, suspension, etc) and the "team engineers" will keep changing those settings until you find one you like. Complete the list (it covered 8 areas, I believe) and you have a track-ready monster. This system was great considering the cornacopia of track types, and as a result the circuit-specific setups were an added benefit. I'm sure something like this can be squeezed into the GT5 Practice mode.

 

[VillageBC]

I use other peoples tunes because I don't have the time, or inclination really to tune my own. Though I did tune my own 135i from scratch, I think I managed to get it nearly as good as stock when I was done.

If the stock car doesn't cut it, someone elses tune is where I'll start. If it's better, great... If not I'll try another. Even tunes that don't suit my style tend to be better anyway. =)

 

[KnuckleDuster]

Guys thanks for seeing my point either on the thread, and on the english issue.
Good to know some of you have the sensibility to realize some people, like me, join this forum they post trying to bring some added value and blend in.
What i got more mad about is he could said exact same thing about my english but on PM, not here on public beeing smart ass trying to what? Make me look bad?
Shame he even carrys GTP on his name.