Got it. Why most PREMIUMs are regular cars

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I personally think we gave them so much grief to rush the game out that's all they could afford to put. Damn us!

They didnt rush the game out though? Not unless they wanted 8-10 years but wouldnt the new PS be out by then?
 
I was looking for a pricey car to add to my collection today. I realized that most of the premium cars are just plain old cars...big deal. Then it came to me. They used 2 sources for the cars, the employee parking lot, and whatever diecast cars were around the office. It makes perfect sense to me now. Why rent a car for a few days to model it when you can just ask to borrow "Bob from accounting"s M3 keys?

It's not that easy, and if they did use the employee parking lot (garage) at PD they would've modeled mostly bicycles. Most new premium cars are 2008 (the complete Super GT GT-500 series is in the game) with a few exceptions, then there is licensing and all the legal stuff. I'm pretty sure there will be many, many new cars in the form of DLC. Another thing is from all the standard car I know of not used in a previous GT is the Jaguar XFR.
 
Polyphony employees don't commute to work, they just sleep and live there. Really, they do.
 
Polyphony employees don't commute to work, they just sleep and live there. Really, they do.

thats pretty awesome.....for us. not sure about for them though
 
So the average PD employee drives a Mazda 787b stealth? Or a 908 HDi FAP? Or a Ferrari f2010? Yeah, I could go on forever.
This is what happens when people don't read. Somebody probably has die-cast models of those on their desk. I have a die-cast 787b myself. The car that was shown to have a die-cast bottom in the game was no easter-egg, it was just a scanned diecast car.
 
I remember the very first thing that attracted me to GT all those years ago... It was the Honda Civic SiR II.. It was the fact that you could race ordinary cars and modify them. THAT was the allure of Gran Turismo and still is. Funny how alot of people forget that.

I agree, and the biggest disappointment for me in GT5 is the lack of wheels for our poor standard EG6s!
 
Too much time. It takes an astronomical amount of time to detail cars to the degree GT5 has, let alone the physics, online, tracks, features, and more. 200 is way more than needed, just look at the original GT or GT3.
 
I personally think we gave them so much grief to rush the game out that's all they could afford to put. Damn us!

I thought we all learned from GT2, but noooooo. Rush rush rush, want now want now want now is what's messing up GT, as well as countless other games.

Personally, I'm disgusted with the games out today. I know there are "Diamonds in the Rough" out there, but I find it hard to find any of those diamonds in kitty litter boxes.
 
I thought we all learned from GT2, but noooooo. Rush rush rush, want now want now want now is what's messing up GT, as well as countless other games.

Personally, I'm disgusted with the games out today. I know there are "Diamonds in the Rough" out there, but I find it hard to find any of those diamonds in kitty litter boxes.

How many more years should we have given them? I mean the next generation of consoles are going to be coming out soon probably. Personally I think they had too much time and wasted it on stuff that didn't make it into the game while putting off the core then had to throw it together when someone finally brought the hammer down on them.
 
I like to read the descriptions on the cars I buy on occasion, especially the ones I like or are eye catching. Seems to me they select the "best" car from the series of cars they have. The Cappacino for example is a rare gem for its category in that it is powered pretty well compared to most of its own competition (k cars) and is even FR when everything else is majority FF or more rarely 4WD. While I might be wrong in quite a few situations, it seems that for the ones that I cared enough to read the most advanced cars in the series of that era or line of cars will be premium. The RX7 Spirit is mentioned in one of the descriptions paragraphs iirc, and while comparing stats, it makes sense that if I want an RX7 that looks like a bathurst, but looks nearly identical to the superior Spirit, I would want the Spirit instead. Same as the Nissan GTRs, the evos, and I am sure many many others. There is some reasoning to it, and I have been thinking hard about it, and I think they did a decent job on deciding what should and shouldnt be premium. (Of course I dont think the Prius deserves the treatment over cars that should have been remade premium in the first place. I dont see hybrid races happening...)

agree
 
Problem Is if there where cleaver we would have more premiums if they had compied and modified more cars. Like some of the r34 and the r8 lms why not just compy the normal r8 then modify it. These loads of cars like these like the rx8 lms car (standard) why didn't they just copy the rx8 premium and modify it.

The thing most people don't grasp about these multiple Skylines (and whatever else is that they have) is that the key difference to all these cars are the little details. Besides the minor performance changes, many of the Skyline models have different stitching, different options, etc.

From Wiki:
Like the R33, the new R34 GT-R V-Spec (Victory Specification) models come equipped with the ATTESA E-TS Pro system and an Active LSD at the rear, while standard GT-R models come with the non-Pro system and a conventional mechanical differential. The V-spec model also had firmer suspension and lower ground clearance, thanks to front and side splitters, as well as a rear carbon fiber air diffuser, designed to keep air flowing smoothly under the car.

Another special model of the R34 GT-R is the M-spec. It was similar to the V-spec, but had special "Ripple control" dampers, revised suspension set up, stiffer rear sway bar and a leather interior with heated front seats. The 'M' on the M-Spec stood for Mizuno who is the chief engineer of Nissan.

At the time of the R34's release, like the R32 and R33, Nissan released an R34 N1 model. The R34 GT-R N1 was equipped similar to the R32 and R33 N1 models — a homologation special. It was sold without ABS, air conditioning, audio equipment, rear wiper, or trunk lining. The new R34 N1 was also given the new R34 N1 engine. Only 45 R34 N1 models were produced from the factory, 12 of which were used by Nismo for Super Taikyu racing. The rest were sold to various customers, mostly racing teams and tuning garages.

The V-Spec versions was also imported into the UK, a number of modifications was carried out to the car, these were 3 additional oil coolers, revised ECU map, full Connelly leather interior, underbody diffusers, stiffer suspension, active rear limited slip differential, extra display feature on the in car display.

In August 2000, Nissan released the V-Spec II, replacing the V-Spec. The V-Spec II has increased stiffness in the suspension (even stiffer than the original V-spec) and had larger rear brake rotors. It also comes equipped with a carbon fiber hood equipped with a NACA duct, which is lighter than the aluminum that all other GT-R hoods are made from. Also different on the V-Spec II was an iridium center console and aluminum pedals. The seats were upholstered with black cloth rather than the gray cloth used on previous R34 GT-R models, and the amber turn lenses were replaced with white versions. With the exception of the carbon fiber bonnet, the standard trim level GT-R also received these updates.

In February 2002 Nissan released a final production model of the R34 GT-R called the Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nür and the Skyline GT-R M-spec Nür. The Nür was named after the famous German Nürburgring racetrack, where the Skyline was developed. In total 1000 R34 GT-R Nür(s) were made, 750 were V-Spec II Nürs' and 250 M-Spec Nürs'. The Nür model featured an improved RB26DETT based on the N1 racing engine. The standard turbochargers were upgraded to larger versions with a slight increase in boost and the ceramic blades were replaced with steel versions. This has increased lag, but to compensate the turbo's durability was improved while being able to handle a bigger boost increase. This allowed tuners to increase the boost safely with standard turbos up to 450 hp at the crank. The V-spec II Nür is based on the regular V-spec II model, and the M-spec Nür was based on the regular M-spec model. Other than the addition of the Nür engine, the Nür models also included a different color of stitching on the interior trim, as well as a speedometer reading up to 300 km/h (186 mph). Due to then-current Japanese law the car was advertised as having 276 hp but it actually had over 330 hp when it left factory.

What I've underlined are the little exterior & interior details that we know Kaz. would do his best to include, esp. now that he has interior views to showcase the "minor" differences between the model.
 
I think Mercedes, Nissan, Honda, Mazda and Toyota gave them some millions, just to make alot everyday cars premium. Don`t forget, the majority of GT5 owners are young people who will certainly buy a new car one day (maybe even their first one). Furthermore, all outdated cars are standards in GT5, that means they look bad and have no cockpit view (and sound very strange too).
This is probably one of the best ways to sell new cars to young people.



They already copy-pasted the R8 V10.

Uhhhh no, just plain false. Ky has stated he takes no money from car companies to appear, he does it purely for the love of cars can you not see that just in the introduction alone, or the 300,000 polygon count cars that are higher than an entire car+track+enviroment on other similar games. He loves cars plain and simple.

And people can blah on about Porsche not being there etc and others, but again its plain and simple if another game has the license to that manufacturer there's nothing he can do about it.
 
I remember the very first thing that attracted me to GT all those years ago... It was the Honda Civic SiR II.. It was the fact that you could race ordinary cars and modify them. THAT was the allure of Gran Turismo and still is. Funny how alot of people forget that.

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Maybe PS4 and GT6 is closer than we all know and they are just keeping us entertained!




We can dream at least.LOL
 
Gran Turismo isn't about race cars and LMP's. It's about the regular cars and the stand-out ones. Face it a Fiat 500 is more famous than a Pescarolo. That's why Polyphony chose to remodel that instead. Go have a race online first off in some race cars and then in some Suzuki swifts and see what's more fun.
 
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