GR.3 Saturday

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    Hello and Welcome to ARL Gr.3 Saturday night thread. Gr.3 series is our main series that kicked off ARL back in Nov. 2018, we offer a variety of other series as well as a driving school for anyone who would like to practice or learn better race craft.

    A majority of us have raced in online lobbies that have been a free-for-all, everyone bumping, cutting other drivers off, dive-bombing, etc., we have entered those kind of rooms and in our experiences it really kills the fun of racing when that happens.

    The Gr.3 series runs in 3 month seasons with 2 drop weeks because most of us have young ones and we all know saturday nights are hectic for families. Races are 45 minutes long, no assist except ABS, full damage and tire/fuel multipliers to allow for 1 or 2 pit stops during the race.

    Below you will find all the necessary information for this series. We hope to see you on the grid soon!

    Gr3 Driver Hub (schedule, points, class, and all info for Gr3 series)
    ARL Drivers Etiquette 101
    As sim racing drivers sometimes we forget that this is a game and let our competitive nature take over to the point we ruin other drivers races, forget the rules from time to time or have a brief lapse of judgement. We all enjoy racing that is why we are here, with that being said we need to remember others are here for the same reasons. The ARL way has and will always be clean and fun first! When we practice/race we all need to remember we are representing ARL and all the hard work that has been put in to make this one of the best up and coming leagues on GT Sport. These guidelines are not meant to single out a driver but are here to ensure that while racing hard all drivers understand what's expected of them. ARL has built a reputation of being a fun, competitive, clean series the following rules and guidelines are here to help drivers remember and learn the correct form of driving etiquette.

    ARL JOBS

    BoD: the body of directors are here to insure this is a well managed league and take everyone's best interest to heart to also insure fun competitive and clean driving.
    Chief Stewards: @Herimopp89 & @Neutty are here to help with any grievances that a driver may have. They also have the FINAL say when carrying out penalties.
    Assistant Chief Steward: will assist the Chief Stewards in any decision making needed.
    Minor Stewards: are in charge of getting replays, pictures, or anything needed to assist the assistant or Chief Stewards when needed.
    Score/Data: as you all know @Nick Cannella is a wiz when it comes to data and scoring. He handles all scoring and data for each league. Along with confirmations for the races if there is any issues with these the BoD will help any way we can.
    *Remember none of these guys are getting paid for this we all do it so everyone can enjoy racing and having fun. All we ask in return is to help make the jobs easier drive respectively and enjoy racing with like minded guys/girls who like to sim race.



    PRE-RACE
    • Drivers need to clear cache and even though this is not a must, it is highly recommended that drivers run a network test to insure drivers have a good solid connection.
    • If a driver is seen lagging, glitching, or teleporting we recommend someone who sees the driver having problems report what they are witnessing in the chat so we can get the situation handled properly before the race starts.
    • If you are one of the drivers that is experiencing this problem we will issue 1 restart, if the problem persists we will require you to go back clear cache, reset the router, run a network test. We will wait 10 minutes before starting the race so these requirements are met and you will start last on the grid. If the problem is still occuring the BoD will take note of the issue and award the driver last place points and ask you to exit the race. We know its not ideal but we can not postpone the race any longer for connection issues.
    • Once PSN implements the 16 person chat lobby all drivers in the lobby will need to be in the chat, no you don't have to have a mic or talk but this will help insure that drivers can communicate freely and should help cut down on any situation.
    QUALIFYING
    • Drivers are expected to form a single file line once room has been reset in a quick orderly manor.
    • Typically the faster drivers should be in the front followed by slower drivers to insure drivers don't get caught on the outlap or hotlap.
    • If for any reason you are caught while you are qualifying do NOT hold the other driver/drivers up. This is another reason faster drivers should be towards the front of qualifying.
    • If you wreck in qualifying and do not receive damage you may continue to qualify on one exception, you must and I repeat must wait till the last car has passed you to continue your qualifying lap.
    • If you wreck in qualifying and receive damage no matter how big or small your qualifying session is over. We ask that you please park your car out of the other drivers way and engage your hand brake.
    THE RACE
    As stated multiple times above drivers are expected to race with the highest regard to clean competitive racing. Below are some examples on what to do or not to do to help ensure we are representing ARL the way it was meant to be.
    Track Cutting: better known as all 4 wheels off, if a driver find him/herself abusing the track limits an IR can be filed. When racing and pushing hard sometimes you can push the car past its capability and run a corner wide or short depending on the corner, if this does occur you must keep at least 2 wheels on the rumble strips or inbounds on the white track limit line. If a driver fails to do so he or she must lift off the gas for a full second before continuing and give any advantage back if this occurs.
    Minor incidents: This is when a driver may accidentally cause another driver light damage (aero, suspension, etc.) but not enough to cause engine damage or damage to 2 or more parts of the vehicle. If this does occur the typical guideline is to give any places gained from the collision back to the driver who received the damage. Failure to do so can result in an IR.
    Flag Rules: We have a video in place to clear up flag rules but one thing it does not go over is blocking. If you are being lapped by a driver we ask that you hold your line and allow them to pass cleanly but not block them. There are multiple grey areas in this statement but if we feel that a driver is being purposely blocked there will be a IR filed and the Chief Steward will levy any penalties needed.
    Lapse of Judgement: hey it happens your racing the same track for 15 minutes, 30 minutes or 45 minutes something is bound to happen from time to time. I myself am guilty of this very thing but I hold myself to the same standards ARL is held to. If there is a lapse of judgement we ask that you don't risk ruining someone else's race because you spaced out. Example if i go off track i will not re-enter the track until it is 100% clear to do so and expect the same from any driver who finds themselves in that situation, if I miss my braking zone its better for me to use the run off areas to regain control and composure opposed to trying to make the corner spinning, taking a driver out, causing us both damage that could have been avoided.
    Divebomb: We have all been guilty of this one from time to time. A divebomb happens when a driver is trying to make a pass in the corner and has little to no regard for the driver they are passing and cause a collision. You have to be smart when passing a good rule of thumb and an ARL must is when a driver is overtaking another driver they must do so in a clean respective manor and it is their job to do so not the driver being passed.
    Blocking: This is another one of those grey areas but like before if the Chief Stewards feel it was a block an IR will be filed. Blocking is defined as more than one change of direction to defend a position, any driver moving back towards the racing line, having earlier defended his position off-line. The driver should leave at least 1 car width between his own car and the edge of the track on the approach to the corner.
    Conceding: This is a big one for me and ARL. If you find yourself in a position where you have knocked a driver off track the correct and respectable thing to do is wait for them to gain the position back not when another car passes but when the driver you have knocked off regained the position ahead of you. Not conceding your position when you've clearly knocked a driver off will not be tolerated and will result in a HEAVY IR or SUSPENSION. Conceding has to do with self respect just as much as it has to do with respecting other drivers no one should want to cheat their way to a podium or win that is not the ARL way.
    Retaliation: We all know what it is, we all know we have either done it or thought long and hard about it but it must not be executed in an ARL sanctioned race. It 100% will not be tolerated and is one of the biggest ARL no-no’s, retaliation will result in Suspension there is no way around it. I should not have to explain this any further but if needed private message me and we can discuss this further.
    Pit Exit: When exiting the pits always watch for drivers who are on the racing line , do not re-enter the racing line until you are back to full speed and it is clear to re-enter.
    A few other notes:
    • Contact between cars should be avoided at all cost
    • It is the job of the driver that is making the pass to pass clean and not interfere with the driver they are passing.
    • With the above being said the driver in front should not intentionally slow the driver gaining on them or do anything to hinder their race either.
    To add to the mentioned guidelines above race others how you would want to be raced. The BoD has put a lot of time and effort into making this league what it is and want to continue to see it grow this is where you guys come in and help. People notice who we are and what we are about i don't want to see that perspective change. We all hope that by following these guidelines it will help promote ARL and we continue to watch ARL grow and evolve.
    *These same rules apply to any ARL race including ones against other leagues.
    • Saturday night race lobby opens at 9:45 PM or earlier (central us time)
    • 3 month season
    • Car selections will be limited to only 4 selections of the same car (1 selection per driver only)
    • GR.3 Cars
    • BoP set
    • Fuel and Tire vary from track to track to optimize more time on track
    • Two tire compounds will be regulated for race weeks in the following combinations: RH-RM, RM-RS,RS-RSS each track and compound use can be found on the schedule
    • Race damage will be on heavy (meaning if you damage your car to the point it flashes red on the indicator you will need to pit to fix damage)
    • 45 minute race (until GT Sport fixes timed races we will be driving laps that equal or get as close as we can to a 45 minute race)
    • False start check
    • Tuning and aids will be turned off with the acceptation of ABS
    • Brake ballast will be the only tuning allowed
    • Liveries are up to the drivers but must include racing number and be posted in main thread before race night
    • Races will be determined by a random selection for the season using excel to randomly select the races.
    • There will be a WILDCARD race at the mid-way point of the season and the final race. Wildcard race will be 2x points.
    • Good racecraft is a MUST
    we will be separating the drivers by 3 classifications. We will have 1 Bronze class, 1 Silver class, and 1 Gold class. This in no way was put in place to discourage drivers. This will allow drivers to compete against drivers who are around the same skill level as them. Drivers will progress out of the bronze class and into the silver class based on their individual seasons performance. New drivers to this series will have a 2 week evaluation period before they are placed in a class. In regards to teams, we have put in place a rule to only allow one bronze and one silver driver per team to eliminate super teams. Drivers will race against each other the same way we always have in mixed lobbies.
    Team championship has worked out very well so far and something ARL wants to see grow. With the recent introduction to drivers class we have made a few small changes to the Team Championship.
    Teams no longer have to run the same color or sponsor although we do encourage drivers to do that it is not mandatory.
    Teams have now been bumped to allowing 3 drivers per team with the highest 2 being scored in that weeks points.
    We have abandoned the rule of having 1 bronze and 1 silver but with that being said when getting a team together you must have at least 1 member in a separate class to eliminate super teams (we are not the NBA lol).
    9:45 – 10:00 (central) Room opens for Free Practice
    10:00 – 10:10 (central) Qualifying
    10:10 - 10:20 (central) break before race starts
    10:20-11:30 (central) 45 min race. (the extra time is for disconnect, stuck on grid, late arrivals)
    Qualifying for Season 5 is going to be a 10 minute open run qualifying session. This is really a simple change and one that came from the survey and im glad to see open qualifying back in ARL.
    A. Qualifying will consist of 1 10 minute session
    B. Drivers can pit at any point but must remain on the same compound of tire they are starting the race with
    If i'm starting the race on RH I must qualify with the same tire compound, but can pit for fresh RH at any point in qualifying
    C. Obviously we are probably all gonna receive damage at some point pits will also be open for repairs during qualifying.
    D. Once you are happy with your lap for qualifying pull off the track and wait for qualifying to end. Please do not bother the drivers still setting laps. If you return to the pits and wait for the race to start your qualifying lap will not be set and you will start from the rear.
    E. Once you have entered the track for qualifying you have locked in your tire selection to start the race.
    F. For season 6 the tires used for qualifying are the same tires we will be using in the race and once you set a fastest lap on a compound you have locked in your choice to start the race.
    This is something we hope will set us apart from any other race series. This idea was brought up by a current driver and has been a major hit. For Season 6 we will have 3 wildcard races. Also the same as last season wildcard picks will be at random and any driver who is full-time will be eligible for the wildcard lottery pick.
    ARL WILDCARD RACE Rules and Regulations:
    The following guidelines will be implemented ASAP to bring some structure and regulation concerning the ARL Wildcard Races.
    1. Wildcard Races are an exclusive event for ARL members.
    2. Lobbies will be mixed, based off of a random draw, and the grid set as mentioned below..
    3. Grid will be based off participation and points in a reverse grid.
    4. Grid will be based off of total points for the season least in points to most in points for all full-time drivers and most in points to least in points for part-time drivers
    5. Confirmation for this race is a MUST to insure we get started on time and have no last minute changes to the scoresheet and grid order.
    6. Race will start at 10 central this season make sure your in the lobby as early as possible.
    7. all ARL Gr.3 lobby settings apply to the wildcard
    A. Driver must select a car class from GR.X GR.1, GR.2, GR.3, GR.4 or N200 and up for the group to run
    B. Car must be equal to or less than 1,000,000 credits
    C. Track selection is the same as stated in ARL (everything is open except Nurburgring 24H, Nurburgring Nordschleife, & dirt tracks)
    D. Wildcard must be picked no later than 10:30 P.M. (central time) on the Tuesday of wildcard race weekend. If a combo has not been picked by that time the choice will then move to the next driver on the list
    E. Try to be as specific as you can when making your choice. (Example: full name of car, full name of track, time of day, conditions).
    F. Reverse grid (last full-time driver in total points is on pole - leader in total points last on grid of full-time drivers)
    G. Regular scoring will be used this season. No more double points.
    H. No qualifying just an extended practice till race starts
    I. All drivers need to be in room no later than 9:45 central for grid sorting purposes.
    J. If there is an instance we need more than 1 room we will divide using excel to randomly select drivers to rooms (only way I see it being fair to everyone)
    K. Races will last 1 hour.
    We are continuing to try something new for Season 6 with restarts. No one wants to be in a major wreck on the first lap in the first turn so we are going to implement a restart procedure to hopefully ease some of madness lol. Now with that being said if its not a major pile up consisting of 3 or more cars there is no guarantee there will be a restart. If you are involved in a pile up that warrants a restart you must type “RESTART” in the chat so we can see it and it must be done before your complete sector 1.
    ARL is a clean league and we have a very well put together IR system for you guys. Season 3 we hope with the few minor changes that have been made will make it easier on all the drivers to submit an IR if they feel inclined to do so. The penalty system for this league will be based on points deducted. For any driver who commits a penalty depending on the severity of the penalty will have points deducted off of their season points. If the penalty is so severe that may mean suspended for the season/suspended indefinitely. These rules and points deductions will be included in all ARL sanctioned races, and are expected to be followed. If a driver receives a grid penalty or suspension they will be suspended from all ARL events until penalty is served.

    *at this time this is being restructured thank you for your patience
    At the start of the season all drivers will be set to full-time status. In order to keep full-time status a driver must complete 65% of the races since there first race of the season. Special exceptions can be made if the directors determine so. Something like driver losing connection or most of us have young ones and sometimes life happens and like previously stated should always come first, I don’t think it’s right to remove a fulltime driver’s status giving those reasons.
    We as a group have got to implement confirmation before the race into a routine to avoid mass confusion going into the race. Race confirmation will end at 7 pm (central) Saturday night prior to race. Drivers who fail to confirm after the 7 pm cutoff will only be allowed in the lobbies if there is room for them, any driver who did not confirm and still races will start the race last on the grid and forfeit qualifying. Auto-confirming is strongly suggested and makes the job a lot easier when it comes to getting lobbies set up for the race night. If you are on auto-confirm then your automatically on the grid for race night and only need to post in the thread about races you don't plan on attending.

    *exceptions can be made to this rule if we have prior knowledge and the BoD agrees to waive this but I would not expect it to be on very many occasions as this would be considered a “special circumstance”
    If for any reason a driver decides not to confirm their race intentions for 3 weeks in a row and don’t show up to race they will now forfeit their rights to points earned and car selected. The reason we are putting this into place is we have seen a few drivers race 1 week and never show back up and we feel it’s unfair to the weekly drivers to hold a car and not race. Hopefully with this rule it will encourage more drivers to confirm their status and race more often.

    *exceptions can be made to this rule if we have prior knowledge and the BoD agrees to waive this but I would not expect it to be on very many occasions as this would be considered a “special circumstance”
    We have noticed that a few drivers have changed cars while the season is in session, we do not like to allow changes but can understand that on certain occasions the BoD may rule that a driver can change the car but it does carry a stiff penalty.
    A. Car does not already have 4 drivers assigned to the car the driver wants to change to.
    B. All points up to the change will be forfeited and driver will start back at 0 points.
    With the recent update on GT Sport there have been many instances a driver getting stuck on the grid (including myself). Hopefully this will not be a problem going forward but until GT Sport fixes this problem we will need to adapt a rule for being stuck or disconnecting. The rule we are putting in place for the time being is that if a driver gets stuck on the grid we will restart if the problem persists we will ask the driver to clear cache and restart PS4 then rejoin the lobby, if the same driver is still having issues we will ask that driver to leave for the night and issue last place points to the driver/drivers for that race. It really sucks being stuck on the grid and I want everyone to race each week but at the same time we can’t restart more than twice for the same driver it’s not fair to the others and I’ve noticed that’s when we go from starting at 10:30 and having issues to starting at 11 or later it really hampers the east coast guys.
    *Also the BoD has got together and hopefully figured out a way to prevent being stuck on the grid for season 4 hopefully it works out.

    ARL League information:
    Website: www.ARLsimracing.com
    Email: americanrleague@gmail.com
    Twitter: @ARLracing214
    Discord: https://discord.gg/vPQW4Ke
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/AmericaRacingLeague/
    PSN Community: Gran Turismo Sport - ARL

    Youtube channels:
    TexasJDC https://youtube.com/user/MrTmw636
    Herimopp89
    https://youtube.com/channel/UCoyQl4LriqKZawdjBbkqWz
    Nog3861
    https://youtube.com/channel/UCnef3zaFdTG-7zJkueDKfiw
    ARL Channel:https://youtube.com/channel/UCaVCwivveljVwUb37jYBXIw
    @Neutty on twitch: Neuttyy

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    ARL Schedule of Events, Series and Races: (All times listed are Eastern)

    Monday’s 9:30pm: GR2 Monthly Series.
    GR2 cars across driver selected tracks over a 12 month season.

    Tuesday’s 9:30pm: ARL Endurance Series.
    A new and improved format will be forthcoming.

    Wednesday’s 10:00pm: ARL GR4 Sprint Series.
    Running GR4 cars over the course of 8 weeks. New format featuring heat races and finale.

    Thursday’s 9:00PM: ARL Practice Night.

    Friday’s: Open night but numerous ARL activities could be occuring. Driver school, one off events, COD and or Madden matchups!

    Saturday’s 11:30pm: ARL GR3 Series.
    The ARL showcase event. Multiple lobbies, multiple driver classes, over the course of a 12 week season

    Sunday’s: Open
     
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  4. DesertPenguin

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    I am interested but I may be late sometimes. There's the IRS SuperBug Series that's Saturdays at 9pm EST (8pm CST) and this will start at 11 EST. If things stay on time I think it will be close but I can do both and stay up late.
     
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    I'm interested. I'll pick my car a little later, so I can be certain about what I want to race. I assume they'll be locked in for the season?
     
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    Yes sir, I'm glad you decided to join!
     
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    @TexasJDC might run in this depending on when I get done with the superbugs the desert penguin was talking about...
     
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    No problem at all man
     
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    Put me down for the shaguar lol
     
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    You got it man thanks for joining
     
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    @TexasJDC I plan on using the Aston Martin but will let you know if that changes. If it does it will be the Merc AMG
     
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    I will put it down
     
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    Ryan23Kirk23 porche 911 rsr
     
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    I did a quick test and it looks like three pit stops based on fuel only lasting ~7 laps. Sounds about right?
     
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    Yeah that's what iv tested it out to be

    At catalunya
     
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    Sounds like a bit much for just 40 minutes. I may have to reconsider.
     
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    No problem man just let me know thanks for giving it a run.
     
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    I want to join. Put me down for the Nissan GTR
     
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    Quit voting for catalunya people please
     
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    Lol come on @Herimopp89 probably only chance I have at keeping up with ya and even that's a long shot
     
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    Right!? I hate that track already...:cheers::D
     
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    Honestly I just cant.find a rhythm there at all it isnt that I hate the track.


    Not excatly hate but there are much better choices lol
     
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    I know how ya feel that's how I feel at Fuji
     
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    Im interested. Ill take the Renault RS01 GT3
     
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    Thank you for joining list will be updated with your choice
     
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    Just 2 questions for you guys to get some input on what you would like to do. Jw brought up a interesting point and a way to police it last night while I was doing some laps trying to see if there would be any kinks in the race Saturday and has me thinking what would be better.

    1. Should we consider the first race a pre-season race Saturday or just start out with it being the first race of the season?

    2. What's everyone's opinion on qualifing tires should we be able to start a race on different tires than we qualify on or should we use the same tires we qualify on to start the race?

    @Jw_wk1010 @Herimopp89 @DesertPenguin @Nick Cannella @SleezyBigSlim @WanganGhost @Ryan Kirk @ElevenSeven
     
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    Me personally I think we shouldn't be able to switch tires