Gran Turismo 6 is very underrated. Why?

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Is Gran Turismo 6 underrated?

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I hear nobody talking about Gran Turismo 6 (or the franchise) anymore. I am the only one at my school who ever talks about Gran Turismo 6 (all others are hooked on COD Ghosts). Gran Turismo 6 has a higher average rating score than COD Ghosts, but why more talk? Because it's COD? That's just silly.

http://www.thetoptens.com/best-games-releasing-2013/

Just look at this. I do not see Gran Turismo 6 on the top 100. Forza 5 is 23, and Sonic Lost World (which I think is crap) is 46. But no Gran Turismo 6? Why? Can someone please explain this.

When Gran Turismo 3 released, everyone was talking about it. Now, nobody talks about the franchise. Please explain on this forum.
 
Voted no because it feels like a large update to GT5. They did some things very well in GT6, but failed to address/change/fix many other things.


Jerome
 
I voted yes since I love GT6, GT5 update your Arss.
I think the new physics are great, it has some awesome new cars and tracks and I like the new style graphics. It has a totally new User interface that works much faster and there are more Lobby setup options.
 
All Your Base
I hear nobody talking about Gran Turismo 6 (or the franchise) anymore. I am the only one at my school who ever talks about Gran Turismo 6 (all others are hooked on COD Ghosts). Gran Turismo 6 has a higher average rating score than COD Ghosts, but why more talk? Because it's COD? That's just silly.

http://www.thetoptens.com/best-games-releasing-2013/

Just look at this. I do not see Gran Turismo 6 on the top 100. Forza 5 is 23, and Sonic Lost World (which I think is crap) is 46. But no Gran Turismo 6? Why? Can someone please explain this.

When Gran Turismo 3 released, everyone was talking about it. Now, nobody talks about the franchise. Please explain on this forum.
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It's been the case for all my life! :( Some people just think racing games are silly...
 
This is because of FORZA FANS they thing they rule this gaming planet, which is not true, gt6 is so undrated and is my favourite game, forza is for kids.
 
I remember when GT5 came out, it was much better known, friends who didn't play the game or didn't even have a PS3 knew about it. They'd ask so you play racing games? Like what, oh GT I heard about that.

When GT6 came out, its not really underrated, as the scores do fit it and the general reviews are okay. It just seems that the timing for GT6 was wrong. It came out as a PS3 exclusive for one, and for two, it was released around the general hype and enthusiasm of a next gen console, that compounded with holidays, then even more compounded with the lack of media advertisement.

At the OP, the reason those games are ranked much higher than GT6 is not always the case of it being a much better game. Sometimes, its the advertisement and the establishment of the whole game franchise. Sonic and Call of Duty are extremely well established franchises with Cod going back many years, and Sonic having a special place in the heart of all 80s kids. What these franchises have done is simply a much more effective and broad media campaign, and the fact that they are globally known around the world, along with them porting it to many of the new consoles out there (PS4, XB1, WII U, 3DS to name a few). Everybody knows about the blue hedgehog and the word "Cod" but GT is near that level.

The mistake they made was the bad release date and the timing of it, you could say they were the victim of circumstance, but that combined with how many of the people who bought the game were satisfied, but not satisfied with it as a game, as a GT game it had what was needed, but in terms of it being a good game to appeal to all, not really. GT has been marketed as more exclusive in my opinion, seemingly looking as if it was for those with a certain niche of racing and such, marketed as a driving simulation. No doubt that will appeal, but games nowadays don't appeal to certain groups, like say a Halo game appealing to those who like FPS and violence, no, the appeal is more universal, trying to get as much sales as possible.

With the issue of Forza 5, thats because simply its on a next gen console, the hype is around it, all games get negative press, and some get positive press, but the thing is, its not the quality of the press, its the quantity of the press, and with Forza being on a next gen console thats constantly on the gaming and tech news, there is no wonder as to why its getting all this press. Some companies would rather get as much press, disregarding whether it is positive or negative, as opposed to a small amount of news being mostly positive.
 
Voted no (surprise? :dopey:), back in the days of GT1-3 the series was ahead of it's class and everyone was rightly talking about it because it was the best racing game out there + the graphics were groundbreaking.

Now PD got lazy and went into copy-paste mode because they don't have to prove anything anymore, and their loyal fanbase will purchase whatever they release, so it's only justice that people don't have the same awe for the franchise anymore and the scores aren't what they used to be.

George Jensen
This is because of FORZA FANS they thing they rule this gaming planet, which is not true, gt6 is so undrated and is my favourite game, forza is for kids.
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That is a very well thought out argument, couldn't have said it better 👍
 
All Your Base
I hear nobody talking about Gran Turismo 6 (or the franchise) anymore. I am the only one at my school who ever talks about Gran Turismo 6 (all others are hooked on COD Ghosts). Gran Turismo 6 has a higher average rating score than COD Ghosts, but why more talk? Because it's COD? That's just silly.

http://www.thetoptens.com/best-games-releasing-2013/

Just look at this. I do not see Gran Turismo 6 on the top 100. Forza 5 is 23, and Sonic Lost World (which I think is crap) is 46. But no Gran Turismo 6? Why? Can someone please explain this.

When Gran Turismo 3 released, everyone was talking about it. Now, nobody talks about the franchise. Please explain on this forum.
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I don't recall ever seeing any advertising on TV for GT6. I've seen several Forza 5 commercials and countless Call of Duty ads. I think that has a lot to do with it.
 
I believe racing games are underrated in general. In the rare case of racing games being discussed by people I know, the words "Need For Speed" frequently arise. Us sim racing fanatics are a rare breed. :indiff:
 
Voted yes. After all the bashing (graphics, Sound, damage aso) I was happy to see the Game has a depth and variety which exceed my expectations.
Play it for three days now and really enjoy every bit of it...
In the end of the Day its a Game about Racing and collecting cars. And Thats what you can do perfectly: Race and collect! Who Cares about shadows Ort popping trees.
 
All Your Base
When Gran Turismo 3 released, everyone was talking about it. Now, nobody talks about the franchise. Please explain on this forum.
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Gran Turismo was still riding the waves it made when it was first introduced as a series. GT1 was revolutionary, GT2 was a steady evolution, and GT3 was one of the first big-name games for the PS2.

I would suggest the reasons you feel noone talks about it now (excluding the popularity of FPS games) are:

Poor damage modelling
No livery editor
Poor sounds
Poor AI, lack of adjustability
Sterile track environments
PS2 assets

Sounds and poor damage modelling are probably the main ones that instantly turn off casual gamers. They might not know what racing is like but they sure know what a car sounds like, and what a wrecked car looks like.
 
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The clear reason why COD is so much more popular than the GT series is the sales. "COD: Ghosts" sold about 14 million units in just a few weeks while it took about three years for GT5 to sell 10 million units total. GT6 in comparison sold only a fifth of what GT5 sold at launch.

Oh, and FYI, I voted both "yes" and "no" because the OP allowed me to. :p
 
I voted no. GT is a game for car guys/girls, not a game for the masses. In my opinion, the reason why COD sells so much is because there is much more kids playing than adults, in general. A game like GT has a higher learning curve compared to FPS so people are deterred from it.
 
Gran Turismo and many other ''sims'' belong to a very small niche genre. GT and Forza are of course the most popular ones because of their graphics which often demonstrate what a system is capable of and because of their big car lists that make casuals and hardcore gamers alike identify with the games.
 
Because there's no big selling point to talk about.

Any title on PS4/X1 at least has fancy graphics to boost it's popularity, but GT6 is essentially just a fixed GT5. There's no new killer feature, at least not yet (hurry up, course maker). There's very little for your average Joe to look at and go "Wow, that's awesome!", especially if they've already seen GT5. You have to be either into Gran Turismo or into cars in a pretty big way to appreciate what GT6 does over GT5, and that narrows the audience down a lot.

Bluntified
GT is a game for car guys/girls, not a game for the masses.
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Once upon a time it wasn't. Once upon a time it was more or less a staple of any Playstation game library. Funny how times change, eh?
 
The sad part is that it's the only "simulator" on PlayStation, yet, PS fanboys that defend their exclusives with a passion never bother with Gran Turismo, only the specific GT fanboys try to do so.
 
it's not underrated, IMO GT is living in the past.

IMO back in the PS1 and early PS2 days , GT was among the best racing/sim games you could play, up to GT3 the game was on par with the best. Then others games started to come out and do some little things better than GT, they were not games about everything like GT, but about specific disciplines, like rally specific games, PC sims came out that made GT obsolete (even Enthusia in PS2 is a far better sim than GT4 with DFGT), driving games came out that where better than GT (IMO TDU unlimited is a better DRIVING game than GT4, GT5 & GT6, even Euro truck simulator 2 is a better driving game than GT), sounds are among the worse in the genre, real racing is non existent in GT (GRID 1, RACE07, etc are better racing games than GT5 IMO). So IMO GT does a lot of things but compared to other games, that have evolved since PS1 & PS2, it doesn't do anything particularly good, except being the same good old GT.

So what we have now with GT6 is the same good old GT that may please the diehard fans, but doesn't impress anybody else. It's flaws, like sounds, career, AI, etc. that were not big issues back then are now too evident. I for example like SIMs, as a SIM GT5 and now GT6 are far behind what PC sims are achieving, those games (Assetto Corsa, iRacing, rFactor, etc) may not have the content like GT has but as SIMs they are unquestionable superior to GT. I tried GT6 but i didn't buy it because IMO it's the same good old GT5 with some improvements but with the same now too evident flaws.
 
Personally I think it's a huge improvement over GT5, but then again I'm a big fan of the series and racing games in general, so my opinions aren't exactly indicative of the general public.

I imagine there are a few reasons it's not terribly popular:

  • No TV advertising
  • GT5 was a big disappointment to a lot of people so they're skipping GT6
  • The PS4 is all the rage so PS3 games get less attention
  • To most average gamers, if you played GT5 you've pretty much played GT6. Incremental improvements don't bring in new fans.
  • Probably a general decline in interest in racing sim's, at least on consoles. Call of Duty kids slide off the track a few times, say "this sucks" and go back to their shooters.
 
PepeMickey
The sad part is that it's the only "simulator" on PlayStation, yet, PS fanboys that defend their exclusives with a passion never bother with Gran Turismo, only the specific GT fanboys try to do so.
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That's because nobody gives a crap about racing games anymore, not as much as they used to. Nothing sad about what you said.
 
Because sim racing is more of a hobby than a game if you reallly get involved and get proper gear.

Cod ghosts is garbage anyways and the worst cod.
 
ShiftingGears
Gran Turismo was still riding the waves it made when it was first introduced as a series. GT1 was revolutionary, GT2 was a steady evolution, and GT3 was one of the first big-name games for the PS2.

I would suggest the reasons you feel noone talks about it now (excluding the popularity of FPS games) are:

Poor damage modelling
No livery editor
Poor sounds
Poor AI, lack of adjustability
Sterile track environments
PS2 assets

Sounds and poor damage modelling are probably the main ones that instantly turn off casual gamers. They might not know what racing is like but they sure know what a car sounds like, and what ai wrecked car looks like.
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ShiftingGears
Gran Turismo was still riding the waves it made when it was first introduced as a series. GT1 was revolutionary, GT2 was a steady evolution, and GT3 was one of the first big-name games for the PS2.

I would suggest the reasons you feel noone talks about it now (excluding the popularity of FPS games) are:

Poor damage modelling
No livery editor
Poor sounds
Poor AI, lack of adjustability
Sterile track environments
PS2 assets

Sounds and poor damage modelling are probably the main ones that instantly turn off casual gamers. They might not know what racing is like but they sure know what a car sounds like, and what a wrecked car looks like.
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No those are all reasons why hardcore fans will complain and Forza fans, but the fanbase will complain about anything. GT's fanbase is almost as ridiculous as the Sonic fanbase. Sonic fans complained about Sonic having green eyes... GREEN EYES!!! You couldn't talk about it without them moaning about it but casual gamers? They didn't care. Just like they don't care or even know about the issues you posted. They just buy racing games to race if a casual fan complains it will be about how hard it is to drive compared to NFS. The GT fanbase that's already there pretty much will buy it anyway and if not now, down the road just like they always have.

Classic
That's because nobody gives a crap about racing games anymore, not as much as they used to. Nothing sad about what you said.
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Sadly this is true. Also people in general aren't into cars much like they were in the 90s and before. For most young adults now days it's just a way to get from point a to b, not about how fun it is to drive or whatnot.
 
I dunno, this entire console generation is giving me a bad impression.
 
All Your Base
I hear nobody talking about Gran Turismo 6 (or the franchise) anymore. I am the only one at my school who ever talks about Gran Turismo 6 (all others are hooked on COD Ghosts). Gran Turismo 6 has a higher average rating score than COD Ghosts, but why more talk? Because it's COD? That's just silly.

http://www.thetoptens.com/best-games-releasing-2013/

Just look at this. I do not see Gran Turismo 6 on the top 100. Forza 5 is 23, and Sonic Lost World (which I think is crap) is 46. But no Gran Turismo 6? Why? Can someone please explain this.

When Gran Turismo 3 released, everyone was talking about it. Now, nobody talks about the franchise. Please explain on this forum.
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Honestly, when I look at that list, I don't think "Why is GT6 not on it"....I think "Thank God GT6 is not on that list". Why? Because that list is, quite frankly, a joke! Just looking through some of the entries makes me laugh:

Number 35.......Need For Speed Shift 3? Really? There's some time travelling going on there and it would be Shift 3 as they dropped the NFS part with Shift 2.

Number 46: NFS:MW......that game was released in 2012 so don't see how it can be in a "Best of 2013" list (though I can excuse it to some extent as it was released on some ports in '13)

Number 55: GTA V? Ermmm.....isn't that the same game as the number one spot: GTA 5? Oh....

I'm sorry but I can't continue through that list without having consumed at least 1 bottle of wine and smoked some less than legal substances!! GT6 may indeed be under-rated but, please use a legitimate and vaguely serious site to supplement your argument. I apologise if I have come across as a bit harsh and, I apologise if you thought I was having a go at you personally....I wasn't, just the site you linked is, honestly, laughable. As for why GT6 is under-rated on sites such as that, perhaps it is because those that bought GT6 are too busy playing and enjoying the game to post on sites like that and they prefer to post on serious, legitimate sites?
 
nursemorph
Number 35.......Need For Speed Shift 3? Really? There's some time travelling going on there and it would be Shift 3 as they dropped the NFS part with Shift 2.
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Er, there's no such game as Shift 3. After Shift 2 SMS told EA to go play with themselves and set up shop to make Project CARS. Which is not Shift 3, before someone drags that out.

Unknown?
No those are all reasons why hardcore fans will complain and Forza fans, but the fanbase will complain about anything. GT's fanbase is almost as ridiculous as the Sonic fanbase. Sonic fans complained about Sonic having green eyes... GREEN EYES!!! You couldn't talk about it without them moaning about it but casual gamers? They didn't care. Just like they don't care or even know about the issues you posted. They just buy racing games to race if a casual fan complains it will be about how hard it is to drive compared to NFS. The GT fanbase that's already there pretty much will buy it anyway and if not now, down the road just like they always have.
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You're suggesting that casual fans won't notice the terrible AI, the lack of damage and liveries, the average sounds, and the PS2 models?

I'd think they'd be the first people to notice. It's only the hardcore who are willing to explain away that stuff in terms of what else the game provides.
 
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