Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[OldandSlow]

Finished the demo just now.

Don’t think it does a great job of showcasing the game.
Too little focus on racing and too much focus on everything else.

I also don’t think the car or track selection is great.

Anyway - completing the demo gets you all 18 demo cars for free in the main game.

I have almost all the cars. Would those 18 Demo cars be in addition to my current lineup? Thanks.

 

[Lomic]

I have almost all the cars. Would those 18 Demo cars be in addition to my current lineup? Thanks.

Yes

 

[Nielsen]

Ok. I don't.

Nor do I, but new GT7 updates still show up in my YouTube feed. The algorithm must remember I’ve watched similar videos before.

 

[GlamFM]

I have almost all the cars. Would those 18 Demo cars be in addition to my current lineup? Thanks.

Yes. Value is roughly 2 million if you sell them all.

 

[Doncarlone]

I have almost all the cars. Would those 18 Demo cars be in addition to my current lineup? Thanks.

Great missed oportunity for a new car in gt7. No better way to entice people to play the demo, than adding a new car (not in gt7) as a reward in gt7 for completing the demo 100%.

 

[Fezzik]

Great missed oportunity for a new car in gt7. No better way to entice people to play the demo, than adding a new car (not in gt7) as a reward in gt7 for completing the demo 100%.

It already gives a load of new cars - for the people it's aimed at.

They probably didn't even consider people playing a demo of a game they already have - because that's just weird.

 

[Lomic]

No better way to entice people to play the demo, than adding a new car (not in gt7)

Because the demo is not for people who already own the game 😅

 

[Nielsen]

The car tickets from the trial are rare opportunities to collect zero mileage examples of select cars. Some people would think twice about selling them all. I’m not too bothered about the artificial mileage figures, but it’s something I would consider if I completed the trial myself.

 

[Scaff]

Because the demo is not for people who already own the game 😅

18 zero mileage cars for a few hours work, that can be sold for close to Cr2m, I think a lot of existing players will see that as 'for them'.

 

[Lomic]

18 zero mileage cars for a few hours work, that can be sold for close to Cr2m, I think a lot of existing players will see that as 'for them'.

Sure but PD did not make it for us.

And I am not sure how many think it is important to have 0 mileage cars 😅 outside of a small niche of weird folks like here.

 

[Fezzik]

Sure but PD did not make it for us.

And I am not sure how many think it is important to have 0 mileage cars 😅 outside of a small niche of weird folks like here.

The mileage thing I can understand - wanting to see exactly how much you’ve driven each car. In this scenario it’s PD who are weird with their fake mileage used car lot.

 

[Lomic]

wanting to see exactly how much you’ve driven each car

I am 200% on that, in GTS we had "distance driven".

But right now, for all the zero mileage cars I can win with the demo, I already have the same one with a certain initial mileage + the distance I've driven it, so in the end I'll never now either. Unless they put back "distance driven.

 

[syntex123]

no new championchips or endurance races.

A game franchise that has had a lot of that since the beginning (in one form or another) I find it odd they haven’t added more of that myself.

I think it does a good job explaining the basics. Though, it should also have an optional Safety Car leading players around a lap.

If GT7 had it, MFGT should too. GT7 doesn’t, so it wouldn’t make sense MFGT to have it. Would be nice though. 👍🏻

The content update trailers should be in plain sight for people who follow Playstation on platforms like YouTube.

It is though. But if you have many you follow in your feed it doesn’t necessarily show on top.

The mileage thing I can understand - wanting to see exactly how much you’ve driven each car. In this scenario it’s PD who are weird with their fake mileage used car lot.

Should be both. A car irl has mileage. Makes sense it does in GT. But irl you can also do a secondary(hell most cars have A and B trip counters + maybe one more. Mine has three, anyway) to show how much you have driven since you bought it.

 

[Doncarlone]

It already gives a load of new cars - for the people it's aimed at.

They probably didn't even consider people playing a demo of a game they already have - because that's just weird.

Thats why its a missed opportunity. You highlighted the biggest issue of this demo. Its for people outside of the gt. Should have also given the community something.
Imagine how the community would react if, in the place of that red countach that most of us already have, there was a surprise: a bugatti eb110. A lot would go nuts.

Because the demo is not for people who already own the game 😅

Why would the introduction of a new car change that?

 

[o000o]

There is in general 4-5 years between each release, and why would that be any different now. I dont see it release any later than late 2027 witch would be almost a 6 years gap.

And not expecting them to accomplish/add much within 4-5 years with how slow their progression is.

A game franchise that has had a lot of that since the beginning (in one form or another) I find it odd they haven’t added more of that myself.

It may not even be enough with how you'd be racing against crappy AI most of the time.

Thats why its a missed opportunity. You highlighted the biggest issue of this demo. Its for people outside of the gt. Should have also given the community something.

GT7 also seems to be about holding hands for GT newcomers in general.

 

[Meythia]

public venues to install arcade machines playing Sega Rally.

They are much more likely to attract a curious person who hasnt yet touched any arcare game than a Street Figher machine would have been. And that means they are much more likely to create a stronger customer base than a place with no Sega Rally machine.

 

[i386]

For a near 3 year old game in a kind of niche genre, those are frankly amazing numbers.

Sony will be happy if that's the measurement of success for a game.
Meanwhile I know that at least my my brother, two close friends and two colleagues own the game but didn't unlock the gt mode. That's 5 sales, but 0 players.

 

[Meythia]

That's 5 sales, but 0 players.

Looking at some trophies of other games, I dont think that is uncommon at all.
For a game with just initial purchase cost, that basically is the ideal customer: all payed and no further cost inflicted by the gamer.

 

[PSN offapple]

Meanwhile I know that at least my my brother, two close friends and two colleagues own the game but didn't unlock the gt mode. That's 5 sales, but 0 players.

Looking at some trophies of other games, I dont think that is uncommon at all.
For a game with just initial purchase cost, that basically is the ideal customer: all payed and no further cost inflicted by the gamer.

Good for Polyphony that the main game doesn't use a free-to-play live service model in that case, since that relies on continued engagement rather than an upfront payment for success

 

[Seikenfreak]

Curious what the "..will allow you to obtain special cars." line is about when they give you the passport.

As is, I don't think I'll bother with it. I already have multiples of like every car in the demo. The value of selling them isn't worth the time. I could just do one Spa race and be good.

Oh well. Back to waiting on the trickle of patch content.

 

[Meythia]

Good for Polyphony that the main game doesn't use a free-to-play live service model in that case, since that relies on continued engagement rather than an upfront payment for success

I dont think it would change the success of the game too much.
Just wave a million credits each week and players stick to the game for no other reason but earning that reward ...

 

[Lomic]

Curious what the "..will allow you to obtain special cars." line is about when they give you the passport.

Moreover when you know that you don't get any special cars, just the ones you've obtained in the demo, and most of them are not special at all (if not all).

 

[Ande3200]

And not expecting them to accomplish/add much within 4-5 years with how slow their progression is.

It may not even be enough with how you'd be racing against crappy AI most of the time.

GT7 also seems to be about holding hands for GT newcomers in general.

They add about the same as other devs does for their titles within 4-5 years, not slower or faster than anyone else,

It has less cars than some of its competetion, but a lot of that have to do with pd putting more attention to detail than anyone on the market, that will have cost on the quantity,

And given pd has already hold back cars they could release a lot of new cars for the next game if it releases in 2027, they release like 30-35 cars on average for gt7 each year and they are cabable of making 60 cars per year,

They could make more than enough stuff for the next title to 2027, all depends on pd and Sony,

There is no reason to belive it will take longer than that for them to put out the next title,

A first reveal on the next title is proably not even to far off at this point.

 

[05XR8]

A game franchise that has had a lot of that since the beginning (in one form or another) I find it odd they haven’t added more of that myself.

If GT7 had it, MFGT should too. GT7 doesn’t, so it wouldn’t make sense MFGT to have it. Would be nice though. 👍🏻

It is though. But if you have many you follow in your feed it doesn’t necessarily show on top.

Should be both. A car irl has mileage. Makes sense it does in GT. But irl you can also do a secondary(hell most cars have A and B trip counters + maybe one more. Mine has three, anyway) to show how much you have driven since you bought it.

GT7 doesn’t have Practice. Yet, MFGT does. Kinda weird. I’d like Practice Mode back in GT. Enjoyed it in GT4. Custom Race doesn’t give me that option to shut the clock or laps off.

 

[syntex123]

It may not even be enough with how you'd be racing against crappy AI most of the time.

I don’t race against crappy AI. I race alone. It gets lonely in the lead +1 minute ahead of the "competition".

GT7 doesn’t have Practice. Yet, MFGT does. Kinda weird. I’d like Practice Mode back in GT. Enjoyed it in GT4. Custom Race doesn’t give me that option to shut the clock or laps off.

Good point; but practice vs leading safety car.. I think most people can do without practice mode as it looks like time trial without recording the time, and a leading safety car would make a lot of people moan: "why is it in the demo and not the full game. [insert angry emoji and a long rant here]

 

[CodeRedR51]

The change was weird, the rear became very loose, a heavy increase in lift oversteer, weird understeer and generally just awkward cars to drive.

The game has been weird for me too. I am struggling with snap oversteer when releasing the brakes or trying to trail brake. It's very discouraging.

 

[Seikenfreak]

GT7 doesn’t have Practice. Yet, MFGT does. Kinda weird. I’d like Practice Mode back in GT. Enjoyed it in GT4. Custom Race doesn’t give me that option to shut the clock or laps off.

I'm fine with Time Trial acting as the Practice mode, except I find the time leaderboard clumsy/annoying. I don't like that it saves a new entry for the same car every single time you do it. So I end up with a leaderboard that has like 10 entries of one car while I'm trying to tune it. And then when you try to go in and delete times, it's like slow/delayed and you have to pause for a moment between deleting them or the game doesn't actually do it etc.

Its just annoying. But I do like comparing times between my cars/tunes

 

[NTGSruler]

A first reveal on the next title is proably not even to far off at this popoint.

What do you mean not to far off? Wouldn't make sense to put out a demo for an almost 3 year old game to convince people to buy it, to then reveal/show the next game in the series.

Besides, Sony their policy regarding new games these days is being silent until they are sure a new game will release in about a year.
"If" GT8 would come somewhere 2027 we wont see something before 2026.

 

[Hoani Tuati]

I'm fine with Time Trial acting as the Practice mode, except I find the time leaderboard clumsy/annoying. I don't like that it saves a new entry for the same car every single time you do it. So I end up with a leaderboard that has like 10 entries of one car while I'm trying to tune it. And then when you try to go in and delete times, it's like slow/delayed and you have to pause for a moment between deleting them or the game doesn't actually do it etc.

Its just annoying. But I do like comparing times between my cars/tunes

You can SKIP it.

 

[B80]

Sure but PD did not make it for us.

And I am not sure how many think it is important to have 0 mileage cars 😅 outside of a small niche of weird folks like here.

Exactly. Each to their own of course, some may be curious, fancy a change of sorts... or zero mile cars.

Personally, I have zero interest in installing it. As none of the above applies, particularly as 'completing' the demo doesn't generate more credits than you can earn in full game.

And definitely not if completing it requires doing licence tests again