Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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I already have 7 emails ready to go twoards two big youtubers who cover this kind of crap and five journos who have raised hell and high water over predatory monetization. I will refraim from sending these if it seems the adjustments were im good faith and not an across the board nerf.
I have also emailed Digital Foundry about the graphics downgrade , PD expects it can wow reveiwers and first impresion consumers and then cut the graphics once all.the positive press is out .. And to make this worse is the FPS are WORSE now.
Sony can go pedal it's garbage elsewhere.
You better get your emails ready, bud. Because they've really done dirty with the rewards and it ain't pretty.
 
If they have technical difficulties, which sounds like it given it was prolonged, it would be suicide to give a time when it will be back up, as depending on the issue or how long it takes to figure it out, the time span can be vastly different.
But this is why we’ve all said that mandatory internet connection is a horrible idea, especially for a single player game. The ‘Sport’ and ‘Lobby’ sections of the game should be affected by this, nothing else.
 
Sony have already been quite clear that if Sophy comes to GT 7 it will not be in the form of AI opponents.
From gt article: "Yamauchi-san explained. “As a teacher that will teach driving to players, a student that will learn sportsmanship from players, and as a friend to race with." - last part - if friend to race with is not ai opponent then what is it ?
 
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From gt article: "Yamauchi-san explained. “As a teacher that will teach driving to players, a student that will learn sportsmanship from players, and as a friend to race with." - last part - if friend to race with is not ai opponent then what is it ?
A “friend” to race with is an AI opponent, yes, but not several AI opponents. Is 1v1 racing what you’re looking for?
 
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It's significant in its own context, they never said it was going to replace the game AI. Everyone just drew their own conclusions to set themselves up for disappointment. Especially as they showed a slide indicating how it would likely be implemented into GT7, and racing AI wasn't one of them.
I know about the context I'm just saying the announcement is just useless and a waste of time. It's just like if they make big announcement for Sunday Cup or something, but ofc they don't because it's just one of the events in the game and so does this meaningless AI. I'm also telling before that hoping for anything would just set for disappointment (for anything tbh) but that's "so negative" apparently.
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From gt article: "Yamauchi-san explained. “As a teacher that will teach driving to players, a student that will learn sportsmanship from players, and as a friend to race with." - last part - if friend to race with is not ai opponent then what is it ?
The AI opponents are your arch enemies that you had to win from, had to be taken down by using any means necessary, though within the available rules (there are no mind games that can be done outside races though). Befriending them just weakens your chance to win, which is the purpose of actual racing or competition. Everyone is your enemy.
 
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But this is why we’ve all said that mandatory internet connection is a horrible idea, especially for a single player game. The ‘Sport’ and ‘Lobby’ sections of the game should be affected by this, nothing else.
To be honest I rather have this than modded hybrid cars online as in the past in GT5/6
 
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From gt article: "Yamauchi-san explained. “As a teacher that will teach driving to players, a student that will learn sportsmanship from players, and as a friend to race with." - last part - if friend to race with is not ai opponent then what is it ?
Team mate or a new B-Spec bob are the two most reasonable and common takes on that, with the later being the most likely.

The wording is quite clear it's race 'with' not 'against'.
 
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You rather have this? This being not being able to play at all.

What does that have to do with single player anyway?
Yes. If they made singleplayer available offline, this would just open up the modding possibility again.
 
Team mate or a new B-Spec bob are the two most reasonable and common takes on that, with the later being the most likely.

The wording is quite clear it's race 'with' not 'against'.
It's not reasonable take. It's only a possibility, not that it'd happen. PD never made their actual ideas and plans happen other than recycling the same content over and over again (the cars and tracks, and GT7 had no new tracks at launch), and also including fixing the game or such. There won't be no new features to add in GT7, too much of a work to do.
 
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No why do they need to specifically say in the notes what it's been adjusted to, just wait till the servers are back online before jumping to conclusions
Because good patch notes are detailed and explicit. The best patch notes also contain some explanation to the users of why changes where made where it's not immediately obvious. For example, a quick couple of paragraphs explaining what they're balancing the race rewards around and why it wasn't that way to begin with seems like a decent use of quarter of an hour of some developer's time.

Technically they don't have to do patch notes at all, but it's good customer relations and is usually decent marketing as well. Comprehensive patch notes get disseminated and discussed more widely because there's more there to talk about.
Yes. If they made singleplayer available offline, this would just open up the modding possibility again.
Oh no! Won't someone think of the children?! They'd all be in there having sinful, sinful fun! Disgusting!
 
The last time this forum assume something about new things coming to GT7, a couple of them have been proven wrong. Remember when people thought the Tweet about the Sony AI collaboration has nothing to do with GT7? or how about that time that people said GT7 physics looks to be the same as GT Sport by only looking at gameplay videos?

I think its best to wait for the AI update to come rather than interpreting a very vague statement that Kaz said about Sophy role in GT7.
 
How do you know that’s not just another one of PD’s ******** excuses though? How does everyone else manage to do it?
Did they ever publically acknowledge that? I don't recall seeing so.
I don't know how other games handle this, but many games have SP and MP strictly separated. Not a possibility here if you want to be able to use your own cars online
 
The last time this forum assume something about new things coming to GT7, a couple of them have been proven wrong. Remember when people thought the Tweet about the Sony AI collaboration has nothing to do with GT7? or how about that time that people said GT7 physics looks to be the same as GT Sport by only looking at gameplay videos?

I think its best to wait for the AI update to come rather than interpreting a very vague statement that Kaz said about Sophy role in GT7.
If the Sony AI collaboration is used in tiny insignificant part of the game, then yes those have nothing to do with GT7 technically. It's useless. And there are still many legitimate complaints about GT7's physics, like suspension physics problems. So no they're not fixed or not enough. They never lived up to the real driving simulator they're spouting with, look at games like ACC.

Assuming the worst about anything regarding PD should be the norm.
 
If the Sony AI collaboration is used in tiny insignificant part of the game, then yes those have nothing to do with GT7 technically. It's useless.
Technically it does. just the fact that Kaz said it will be coming to GT7 does mean theres a relationship with it, whether its useless or not.

And there are still many legitimate complaints about GT7's physics, like suspension physics problems. So no they're not fixed or not enough. They never lived up to the real driving simulator they're spouting with, look at games like ACC.
I never said that the physics are perfect, im trying to point out that people on this forum assume that GT7 have the same physics as GTS, which it clearly is different. Two very different things.

Assuming the worst about anything regarding PD should be the norm.
Assume nothing should be the norm, given how unpredictable PD can be sometimes.
 
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Can you guys connect to the server? I’m in the offline mod, even tho maintance should have ended 3 hours ago.
 
Back in my day🤣 a video game company had to come out with final copy that the majority of people were happy with. You couldn’t update a cartridge 2-3 times in the first month of release. And let me tell ya I had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to rent one of those perfected pieces of art. I’m just joking around about most of it. Besides the snow part😱🤙🏽
I remember renting a Nintendo something or other (it had a CD drive) and a copy of an Alien game for a couple of weeks at a time! I'm fairly chilled about the constant patching, provided the end result is worth it. I am a bit p'd off that Frontier have dropped console development for Elite, my other gaming obsession, but that is for another forum. Anyway, I played the basically never patched GT2, 3 A-Spec and 4 as a happy bunny. I didn't like 5, so didn't bother with 6. I only came back to GTS a year ago, by which point it was a fully functional game, so I missed all the development issues. Funnily enough, I did the same with DriveClub, so I only ever saw the polished result.

Back to the argument in hand though, this time I took a risk pre-ordering. In fairness, I'd already put the money aside for BF2042, which my spidey-senses steered me off (definitely dodged a bullet there, pun fully intended), so I felt it was worth it. Mostly, it was IMHO. I only play for a couple of hours a day, so I only finished the café menus a day or so ago and I'm now going back to gold all the races I didn't win on the way, and diving properly back into the Livery Editor. There is plenty of content to keep me happy and hopefully more cars etc coming over the next few months.

I do have issues. There are couple of game menu choices which are stupid (having to go in an out of GT Auto is particularly annoying), and some weird physics around the rallies (how a physics engine that can process pretty well differences in downforce settings and tyre conditions can have such a poor grasp of how gravity works is a concern). There are also some baffling gaps in the car line-up because it's still, basically, the GTS line-up, so almost nothing newer than 2017, but I'm mostly happy.

And let's face it, life is too short, and too precious, to be a grumpy b@stard!!
 
Assume nothing should be the norm, given how unpredictable PD can be sometimes.
The assumption about the price being reduced is a reality. Continuing to assume the worst would be plausible.
 
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From gt article: "Yamauchi-san explained. “As a teacher that will teach driving to players, a student that will learn sportsmanship from players, and as a friend to race with." - last part - if friend to race with is not ai opponent then what is it ?
That reads as B-Spec to me.
 
at least it’s gonna be “balanced” 😅


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