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Reading this back, I still agree with a lot of the core concepts here from 2024. I still think GT is better when the career is about the cars rather than you the player, I still think you have to make a career that fits to the car roster rather than trying to squeeze a round peg car roster into your square hole career, and I still like the "going through history" concept to tie into the whole automobile museum aspect of the franchise.
I apparently came across wrong regarding the camshaft profile thing. It can be made in a way that doesn't have to change the car's PP - it would actually be better than just copying the torque curve and pasting it 800rpm higher, no?
Don't you think there could be an intermediate way of doing things between grinding for years and receiving the cars fo free ?
The grind isn’t a good part of Gran Turismo. That doesn’t equal fun. Maybe that’s the problem. It almost feels like there’s no point to single player races besides earning credits. Should be pulled into the gameplay first, credits and earning cars is secondary. It’s just a bonus. But the games have always felt to me, like I’m racing to get cars. I’m not getting cars because I’m racing. Fun races, unlocking classes of cars would be ideal for me.
I believe that is what will happen in GT8.
It ruins the immersion for me. Longitudinal grip differences still exist though. The X-Bow will out brake other road cars. And MR platforms will dive into corners and put the power down better on exit compared to FR and FF platforms. But once the car has settled mid-corner, peak lateral grip seems to be dictated solely by tire compound.
Starting from that, but replace the individual races with championships.
I’d rather see the intention somewhere else. I don’t mind earning cars but that’s if it just happens not having to focus on every aspect of the game. Sure I don’t need fifteen 432 Fairladys but I have 2500hrs into the game mostly online racing multiplayer lobbies league racing and I’m nowhere near close to have all the cars. Their game is flawed in my opinion.
I'm currently going through the game by spending some time to drive and get to know every car in custom races. One thing I noticed was how well old cars could keep up with more modern machines, to the point of being extremely unrealistic. I'm wondering if what you found could be the main factor.
Oh, we play the game in different ways then. I never enter multiplayer lobbies, can't see the point in paying for PS Plus to get rammed by underage boys when I can get rammed by the AI without paying further than the game's base price. Especially Sophy plays dirty to an alarming extent and its rubberbanding is ridiculously obvious. If this is the direction Gran Turismo AI will be going, I 'll say no thanks and walk away. I suggest they differentiate difficulty through AI opponent setups instead. It 's OK if this means more work for them on the AI and therefore fewer cars and fewer tracks. And since they oversimplified the PP system, they should unlock the suspension and differential settings in BoP mode. The online time trials are usually just a question of understeer management because they 've neglected to do so.
It’s not totally in realistic. You also have to keep in mind there’s the ability to tune cars. I don’t think any stock muscle car is going to keep up with a modern machine. Once tune with some suspension and more hp etc. it’s not far fetched. That red devil 69 camaro ran better laps times than the top of the line new Camaro when it came out. Also in a straight line, you have to remember old muscle cars at the track were running bias ply tires which aren’t very good at all.
I said league. We don’t ram into each other, especially on purpose. So my online racing is with friends. Much much much better than anything AI can provide. So yeah, the grind of the game is atrocious unless you want to race by yourself all day long. Then you can earn some good money but it’s boring as heck. In my opinion anyway. I’d rather race against one other friend in a private lobby than any of the single player content. It only takes two cars to have a good race.
It's been this way since GT Sport. Upon release, I immediately conducted skid pad testing and was disappointed. Testing stock cars is a hobby of mine, which is why I enjoy GT5/6. The old PP system would acknowledge the differences between models. Higher grip models would pay a HP penalty at the same PP rating. i.e. '92 NSX-R vs '97 NSX Type S Zero.
Sure it makes sense to not ram each other in a league, but then again someone in the league might show a behaviour that doesn't make sense. Now let's see about your list.
Most leagues have rules to prevent that. The last resort is to prevent people who don't comply to partake to the events of the league.
Our league is casual so everyone does their best not to do anything on purpose. I don’t think anybody really cares if they win. I haven’t been able to replicate the close action we get at times with GT7 AI. In fact recently I did a single player race to earn some cash. I was ticked off at the AI. Remembered why I quit that part of the game.
I'm going through the car collection from the Garage menu and making my way through each country's cars. I start with the oldest, drive it in custom races with cars that are around the same PP and see how they feel stock. After a few cars I do the reverse, i.e. start from the newest and work my way down. That gives an interesting contrast between old and new. It's a rewarding way of playing the game - I like reading the info in the various sections about the car and then after driving it over a few races reading more about the real car on wiki/other sites and also what car reviewers thought of it IRL.
This is disappointing. And your skidpan results match what I've been feeling with the stock cars I've driven so far.
Well the PP system is broken for sure. You can bring 15 cars to a race all at 600pp Sports Soft and there will be a few that just blow the others away. I don’t know what you call that, but its just like gun builds in call of duty. Theres so many options to it now, i cant imagine they have any way to balance each build. Same goes for GT7 and its tuning plus setup. Strip away the tuning, they could make sure they have classes of cars that are way more evenly matched.
Along with numerous other features that takes only a few hours to code, this would cancel the need for making another email address & registration on PSN for those of us who want re-run a campaign mode. That was the most fun part with GT3-4-5-6 & that we could progress really fast if we wanted to.
