Gran Turismo World Series 2025 World Final: Jose Serrano and Team Porsche Take Titles

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Skinny McLean
Yes. Iirc it”s called Active Viewing or something like that. It”s basically replays with commentary included.
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Thanks. So where is this? In game? Showcase?
I'd like to see some of the incidents we didn't get to see in the feeds, and see the driver inputs when there were clashes etc. Would like to see what happened to Labouteley especially.
 
SpacedInvader
Thanks. So where is this? In game? Showcase?
I'd like to see some of the incidents we didn't get to see in the feeds, and see the driver inputs when there were clashes etc. Would like to see what happened to Labouteley especially.
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The new races haven't been uploaded yet, but the feature (Dynamic Viewing I think it's called) can be accessed from one of the icons at the top right part of the main map screen.

ETA: It is the top right icon: Viewer's Campaign -> Dynamic Viewing -> Select an event -> Switch to Manual Mode (after the grid intro is finished.)
 
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I got lucky this time...
 
Jose is the safe bet now when it comes to these events. Thank you for the 1m. Miyazono is still one of the best, he has won many credits for myself and others in the past but Jose seems to be a level above.
 
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tonidavid5
Having watched a recent Kireth's YT video on most used GT7 view modes, I tried to look up in the stream which view mode these aliens use when racing in the Finals.... And was somewhat still surprised they all seemed to use the bumper view (or the bonnet view, couldn't really tell as they were all wide angle shots of the whole racing line positions). Definitely, not the in-cockpit view.
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No mandatory cockpit view is another remaining arcade aspect of the “best driving simulator”.
I wished any even that isn’t single player was mandatory cockpit. Otherwise everybody who chooses to go cockpit has to suffer the disadvantage of less visibility and lower driving position, which makes judging the cars position 1000% harder. It’s really stupid how this has been going. The evolution of arcade games to world championship sim racing tool and yet everybody races bumpier or hood cam.
 
mef
No mandatory cockpit view is another remaining arcade aspect of the “best driving simulator”.
I wished any even that isn’t single player was mandatory cockpit. Otherwise everybody who chooses to go cockpit has to suffer the disadvantage of less visibility and lower driving position, which makes judging the cars position 1000% harder. It’s really stupid how this has been going. The evolution of arcade games to world championship sim racing tool and yet everybody races bumpier or hood cam.
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Driving in hood or bumper cam offers a view that is far more like what you see in real life, in 3D, with head movement possible, versus the unrealistically cramped cockpit cam.
 
bduddy
Driving in hood or bumper cam offers a view that is far more like what you see in real life, in 3D, with head movement possible, versus the unrealistically cramped cockpit cam.
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It’s a reality that cockpits are restricted, that’s realism.
People using bumper or hood cams aren’t doing it for realism. They do it to gain advantage, Same principle as in 3rd person shooters. Much more situational awareness
 
mef
It’s a reality that cockpits are restricted, that’s realism.
People using bumper or hood cams aren’t doing it for realism. They do it to gain advantage, Same principle as in 3rd person shooters. Much more situational awareness
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Or... you know... they could be using other cameras other than the cockpit cam because they just want to have a casual experience, without too much fuss? Or they simply don't like playing in the cockpit view? Why should they be forced to play in a way they don't want?

GT always was a game for everyone, really. It would be incredibly dreary if players had to be forced to play in ways they don't/didn't want, all for the sake of "realism".

Expanding your earlier post, everyone should play with a wheel and pedals, in cockpit cam (in VR of course), just so they get the most "realistic" experience, and anyone that doesn't play like that is being unfair to other players.
Does that point of view seem... fair and reasonable?
 
mef
It’s a reality that cockpits are restricted, that’s realism.
People using bumper or hood cams aren’t doing it for realism. They do it to gain advantage, Same principle as in 3rd person shooters. Much more situational awareness
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I've raced in real life. Like I said, when you account for having 2 eyes and being able to move your head, a real cockpit is nowhere near as "restricted" as cockpit view in GT7 or most other games.
 
bduddy
I've raced in real life. Like I said, when you account for having 2 eyes and being able to move your head, a real cockpit is nowhere near as "restricted" as cockpit view in GT7 or most other games.
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I have, too. I agree with you.
 
bduddy
I've raced in real life. Like I said, when you account for having 2 eyes and being able to move your head, a real cockpit is nowhere near as "restricted" as cockpit view in GT7 or most other games.
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That's why VR is so great in this game, PD did amazing work on cockpits, but without VR you are too restricted for it to be a competitive camera. Some cars have poor visibility though, even in VR.
 
Just because cockpit cam isn't like real life, certainly doesn't mean bumper/hood cam is any better. Neither is anything at all like real life. Cockpit with VR is closest by far.

So those choosing bumper (which is definitely too low to be anything like natural to me, on most cars) are probably doing so to be faster, and that's a valid and sensible choice in a racing game. As is chase cam, which I've never used.

Cockpit does indeed hinder speed marginally (I've extensively tested), but that's one reason why I prefer it now; the SP game is so easy to beat (whether it's races at hard difficulty or golding licences/CEs and even most TTs) without some handicap it's all a bit meh... If I were ultra-competitive I might consider switching back to bumper/hood for Sports Mode, but life's too short.

Also, I like to be able to check what I'm driving; back in GT Sport, when I almost exclusively used bumper cam, there'd be times in longer races when I'd forget what I was driving (919 or R18?, X Gr3 or Y Gr3? Impreza or Evo?) and everything becomes just 'a fast car'. In cockpit cam you can look at the wheel or dash to (usually) remind yourself what the car is.

In some of the modern Gr1 prototypes it seems there's more cockpit on view than track, which is just a postbox-style slit across the screen, so those are the ones that present a real challenge to cockpit users, and I like it all the more now because of small extra challenges like that.

And some of the more mental cockpits in the VGTs are not to be missed.
 
SpacedInvader
And some of the more mental cockpits in the VGTs are not to be missed.
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And not only VGTs, there are so many cockpits in the cars available in game, it feels like a new game and that I benefit more of all the hard work done by PD.
I use to drive on bumper cam because it was the fastest for me, but as you mention, I was losing any clue of what car I was driving.
 
OldandSlow
I have, too. I agree with you.
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I’ve also raced and yes you can move your head a bit unless you are using HANS. But overall you have a lot less situational awareness than in a bumper cam.
Also for cog reasons some drivers sit really low, but other like seeing the front corners of the car even if they sit higher. I’m in the latter camp, a higher driving position is worth time for me.
Anyhow - I’m not trying to convince anybody of anything here. I’m just commenting of this game calling itself “driving simulator” and running world championships from bumper cams which to me personally is a bit silly if the premise of the championship is meant to be “this is as close to real racing as it gets” . It would be far more realistic to make sport mode cockpit only (or ring fence it behind a hardcore mode) and expand the Options for seat height and position, because right now some cars are hard to view out of (for example the XJ220 if master s4 license). Had to go bumper for that license to complete it. Anyhow I realise other people love the bumper cam for all of it, I find it way too gamey.

SoulSilvera
Or... you know... they could be using other cameras other than the cockpit cam because they just want to have a casual experience, without too much fuss? Or they simply don't like playing in the cockpit view? Why should they be forced to play in a way they don't want?
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You missed this sentence in my post
“wished any even that isn’t single player was mandatory cockpit.”

I think it would be reasonable to mandate it for sport mode. Sport mode isn’t exactly a casual mode, it comes with rules and ratings.
But I agree that most likely it will never happen because GT is no iRacing. The game was never as hard core as these world championships and the skill level involved, suggest.
 
Anyone know what happened with the guy that went into the pits at spa and disappeared from the rest of the event?
 
kjeldsen
Anyone know what happened with the guy that went into the pits at spa and disappeared from the rest of the event?
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jrbabbitt
Mental breakdown? Yikes, when I do bad in general daily races I still do not quit, I just continue on and learn from it, and I'm a C rated driver....
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sure but the pressure must be different for him, one does not reach that level without high competitive spirit and lot of work
 
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I am no expert but I think there should be no such thing as qualifying for the 2026 season during the 2025 finals.
What if you could find faster newcomers? Everyone should qualify through the official season, so the grid is proven to be the best at all times.
 
Serrano is about to make me cut off all my hair! Bro was not playing this GTWS he was extremely impressive!💪🏾
 
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