Great attention to detail,

Skant
Of course, the question is... why? I can't see a point in deployable wings beyond the gimmick. The mechanism has to add (unnecessary) weight. There's no gain in acceleration by retracting the wing since speeds too low to get significant downforce out of it are naturally also too low for it to provide any significant drag either.

Now I _can_ see the point of wings that dynamically change angle with steering/braking. As in, they go flat for least wind resistance on the straights and then angle for maximum down force in the turns. Or heck, you could even do a rudder. These kinds of systems were banned in all forms of racing before they even got started as far as I know. It was clear that if they were allowed, you wouldn't be racing cars anymore... but rather very low flying airplanes.

- Skant

the deployable wing on the SLR is atually vey useful, mostly for extreme braking, in one test, the car stopped from 120mph to standstill in the distance it takes for a normal car to stop from 60mph. in other words, double the speed in half the distance. the wing really works, just like when a plane is landing, look out of the window and you will see the wing flaps turn up at about 45-60degrees (im not sure) the stopping power is incredible. and thats just using wind resistence, so yeah same story with the SLR.
 
Im always in awe of how much work went into this game.
 
I don't think making the air outtakes in the hood on the CLK-GTR reflective and badly textured (instead of bumpmapped or in full 3D - as GT4's car models are SO superb!) would be called "Great attention to detail", though :P
 
Skant
Of course, the question is... why? I can't see a point in deployable wings beyond the gimmick. The mechanism has to add (unnecessary) weight. There's no gain in acceleration by retracting the wing since speeds too low to get significant downforce out of it are naturally also too low for it to provide any significant drag either.
- Skant

I think I pointed it out well enough. :sly:
It's a "Hey! Look at me!" thing so people who actually buy Crossfires can feel proud about buying a car that anyone over 5'9" can't fit in, has no rear window, and feels like a sardine can.
 
the deployable wing on the SLR is atually vey useful, mostly for extreme braking, in one test, the car stopped from 120mph to standstill in the distance it takes for a normal car to stop from 60mph. in other words, double the speed in half the distance. the wing really works, just like when a plane is landing, look out of the window and you will see the wing flaps turn up at about 45-60degrees (im not sure) the stopping power is incredible. and thats just using wind resistence, so yeah same story with the SLR.

Well, I did say that I saw the point in dynamically changing the pitch of the wing. And I guess that's what the SLR does when it's braking. However, I doubt that very much of its stopping power could be attributed to the tiny little wing it has. Most of it is going to come from big tires with soft rubber.

I'd say the wing on the SLR is functional enough to give it a small edge, but it's more gimmick than anything else.

I think I pointed it out well enough.
It's a "Hey! Look at me!" thing so people who actually buy Crossfires can feel proud about buying a car that anyone over 5'9" can't fit in, has no rear window, and feels like a sardine can.
Today 8:13 AM

I sat in a Crossfire at a car show, and I fit in it fine. And I'm 6'2". I rather liked it, myself. I do agree that it's vision is quite narrow vertically. But, driving a low slung Corvette, I'm quite used to that, and it really doesn't hurt your ability to drive at all. If I needed great big tall windows, I'd drive an SUV. :)

- Skant
 
Skant
Well, I did say that I saw the point in dynamically changing the pitch of the wing. And I guess that's what the SLR does when it's braking. However, I doubt that very much of its stopping power could be attributed to the tiny little wing it has. Most of it is going to come from big tires with soft rubber.

I'd say the wing on the SLR is functional enough to give it a small edge, but it's more gimmick than anything else.

true, those tiny wings arent my cup of tea, but they make a HUGE diffrence to car stability. for example, the first model audi TT, had not wing, it was less stable then the next version which had the tiny little wing on it which (from memory) i think produced like 100kg extra downforce at 110mph. but as to braking, the SLR wing actally stopped the car better, but in my opinion, it was mainly down to those carbon/ceramic discs the size of my house. so for all i know that wing might just be a flash part in a flash car. :sly:
 
call me stupid:
if you turn the gran turismo symbol upside down, you get a small white P within a larger D, for polyphony digital
observe

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Those spoilers always seem a little dodgy to me. Not only are they a bit of a gimmic that just provides the garages with more mechanisms to go wrong it also gives the police (or cops depending on where your from) with a bit of ammo to actually see you speeding. i.e if your spoiler comes up at 39 mph and you sail past a police car with your raised spoiler in a 30mph...
 
I haven't driven a Crossfire or SLR in the game, but I got the Mitsubishi concept car with the air brakes and yeah... I was really surprised to see that.

I agree that the rising spoiler is a fancy gimmick, but you can say that lowering it when it's not needed gives you better visibility. And didn't some old Porsches have wings that raised on their own, just due to aerodynamics? No wastefulness there.
But the air brake on the SLR is different. You don't want to go around trying to drive fast with that thing permanently up.
 
Duke
I noticed while doing the BMW Z4 slalom test. I tried launching in second gear, so I shifted during the countdown. Sure enough, my driver reached down and eased the stick back.
Ahh, not only that, try watching an open-top car in Photo Drive (so you can zoom in to the cockpit if you get the right angle) and you'll notice that the shifter is actually in the correct position for the current gear! :bowdown:
 
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