Group 4 BoP Test Redux by Windfire1010

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  1. Windfire1010

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    I will be retesting the Gr.4 cars on five different tracks to see how Polyhony's Bop stands up. I will also testing the tire life as well as the fuel economy of each car. The fuel testing will be done at Dragon Trail-Gardens at 6 times fuel usage for 6 laps. The tire test will be done at Suzuka East with 7 time tire usage to find out how many laps it takes to get to half way on wear.
    Alsace - Village: Lots of undulations
    Willow Springs International Raceway: Big Willow: Downforce track
    Dragon Trail-Gardens: Very Kerb heavy, Balanced track
    Autodromo Nazionale Monza No Chcane: A test of power and straight line speed.
    Tsukuba Circuit: Test of mechanical grip.

    Spreadsheet:


    The Ranking Board:
    1. Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11 7:31.289 64 liters
    2. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 7:31.771 70 liters
    3. Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 7:31.799 71 liters
    4. Dodge Viper Gr.4 7:31.964 64 liters
    5. Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 7:32.158 61 liters
    6. Mazda Atenza Gr.4 7:32.243 74 liters
    7. Hyundai Genesis Gr.4 7:32.591 66 liters
    8. Citroën GT by Citroën Gr.4 7:32.702 55 Liters
    9. Ford Mustang Gr.4 7:32.762 67 liters
    10. BMW M4 Gr.4 7:32.805 55 liters
    11. Jaguar F-type Gr.4 7:32.886 64 liters
    12. Afla Romeo 4C Gr.4 7:32.899 68 Liters
    13. Nissan GT-R Gr.4 7:32.937 72 liters
    14. Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 7:33.026 69 Liters
    15. Honda NSX Gr.4 7:33.030 63 Liters
    16. Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 7:33.196 68 liters
    17. Subaru WRX Gr.4 7:33.227 68 liters
    18. Lexus RC F Gr.4 7:33.383 62 liters
    19. Aston Martin Gr.4 7:33.384 70 liters
    20. Chevorlet Corvette C7 Gr.4 7:33.387 70 liters
    21. Toyota 86 Gr.4 7:33.479 63 liters
    22. Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 7:33.558 63 liters
    23. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 7:33.836 66 liters
    24. McLaren 650S Gr.4 7:33.863 68 Liters
    25. Audi TT Cup '16 7:34.046 65 liters
    26. Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 7:34.100 67 liters
    27. Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 7:34.599 64 liters

    Dragon Tail-Gardens Ranking Board:
    1. Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11 1:36.018
    2. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 1:36.160
    3. Mazda Atenza Gr.4 1:36.354
    4. Dodge Viper Gr.4 1:36.410
    5. Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 1:36.431
    6. Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 1:36.504
    7. Ford Mustang Gr.4 1:36.532
    8. Hyundai Genesis Gr.4 1:36.564
    9. Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 1:36.573
    10. Honda NSX Gr.4 1:36.578
    11. Subaru WRX Gr.4 1:36.580
    12. BMW M4 Gr.4 1:36.604
    13. Citroën GT by Citroën Gr.4 1:36.632
    14. Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 1:36.644
    15. Ferrari 458 Italia Gr. 4 1:36.647
    16. Alfa Romeo 4C 1:36.648
    17. Jaguar F-type Gr.4 1:36.655
    18. Nissan GT-R Gr.4 1:36.662
    19. Chevrolet Corvette C7 GR.4 1:36.675
    20. McLaren 650S 1:36.704
    21. Lexus RC F Gr.4 1:36.755
    22. Toyota 86 Gr.4 1:36.773
    23. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 1:36.822
    24. Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 1:36.843
    25. Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 1:36.903
    26. Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 1:36.976
    27. Audi TT Cup '16 1:36.993

    Tsukuba Circuit:

    1. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 55.909
    2. Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '16 55.992
    3. Subaru WRX Gr.4 56.153
    4. Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 56.158
    5. Mazda Atenza Gr.4 56.160
    6. Nissan GT-R Gr.4 56.270
    7. Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 56.427
    8. Citroën GT by Citroën Gr.4 56.437
    9. Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 56.440
    10. Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 56.441
    11. Honda NSX Gr.4 56.467
    12. Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 56.474
    13. Hyundai Genesis Gr.4 56.494
    14. Dodge Viper Gr.4 56.526
    15. BMW M4 Gr.4 56.537
    16. Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 56.595
    17. McLaren 650S 56.599
    18. Ford Mustang Gr.4 56.621
    19. Toyota 86 Gr.4 56.629
    20. Lexus RC F Gr.4 56.631
    21. Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 56.651
    22. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 56.678
    23. Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 56.682
    24. Jaguar F-type Gr.4 56.685
    25. Audi TT Cup '16 56.736
    26. Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 56.741
    27. Chevrolet Corvette C7 GR.4 56.798

    Willow Spirings International Raceway: Big Willow

    1. Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '16 1:15.126
    2. Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 1:15.473
    3. Toyota 86 Gr.4 1:15.694
    4. Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 1:15.701
    5. Dodge Viper Gr.4 1:15.742
    6. Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 1:15.816
    7. Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 1:15.831
    8. BMW M4 Gr.4 1:15.845
    9. Honda NSX Gr.4 1:15.875
    10. Hyundai Genesis Gr.4 1:15.884
    11. Chevrolet Corvette C7 GR.4 1:15.913
    12. Ford Mustang Gr.4 1:15.917
    13. Audi TT Cup '16 1:15.927
    14. Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 1:15.929
    15. Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 1:15.940
    16. Jaguar F-type Gr.4 1:15.944
    17. Mazda Atenza Gr.4 1:15.948
    18. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 1:15.951
    19. Citroën GT by Citroën Gr.4 1:15.952
    20. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 1:16.001
    21. Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 1:16.033
    22. Subaru WRX Gr.4 1:16.048
    23. Lexus RC F Gr.4 1:16.058
    24. Nissan GT-R Gr.4 1:16.062
    25. Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 1:16.180
    26. McLaren 650S Gr.4 1:16.208
    27. Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 1:16.277

    Alsace-Village

    1. Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '16 1:58.252
    2. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 1:58.570
    3. Dodge Viper Gr.4 1:58.716
    4. Mazda Atenza Gr.4 1:58.751
    5. Citroën GT by Citroën Gr.4 1:58.767
    6. Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 1:58.833
    7. Hyundai Genesis Gr.4 1:58.845
    8. Subaru WRX Gr.4 1:58.897
    9. BMW M4 Gr.4 1:58.914
    10. Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 1:59.003
    11. Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 1:59.077
    12. Jaguar F-type Gr.4 1:59.106
    13. Audi TT Cup '16 1:59.116
    14. Honda NSX Gr.4 1:59.122
    15. Ford Mustang Gr.4 1:59.123
    16. Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 1:59.137
    17. Nissan GT-R Gr.4 1:51.151
    18. Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 1:59.158
    19. Lexus RC F Gr.4 1:59.190
    20. Toyota 86 Gr.4 1:59.203
    21. Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 1:59.223
    22. Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 1:59.229
    23. Chevrolet Corvette C7 GR.4 1:59.282
    24. Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 1:59.293
    25. McLaren 650S Gr.4 1:59.300
    26. Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 1:59.345
    27. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 1:59.383

    Autodromo Nazionale Monza No Chcane:

    1. Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 1:44.005
    2. Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 1:44.393
    3. Jaguar F-type Gr.4 1:44.496
    4. Ford Mustang Gr.4 1:44.569
    5. Dodge Viper Gr.4 1:44.570
    6. Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 1:44.582
    7. Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 1:44.667
    8. Chevrolet Corvette C7 GR.4 1:44.719
    9. Lexus RC F Gr.4 1:44.749
    10. Nissan GT-R Gr.4 1:44.792
    11. Hyundai Genesis Gr.4 1:44.804
    12. BMW M4 Gr.4 1:44.905
    13. Citroën GT by Citroën Gr.4 1:44.914
    14. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 1:44.952
    15. Honda NSX Gr.4 1:44.988
    16. Mazda Atenza Gr.4 1:45.030
    17. McLaren 650S Gr.4 1:45.052
    18. Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 1:45.059
    19. Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 1:45.136
    20. Toyota 86 Gr.4 1:45.180
    21. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 1:45.181
    22. Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 1:45.254
    23. Audi TT Cup '16 1:45.274
    24. Subaru WRX Gr.4 1:45.549
    25. Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 1:45.617
    26. Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 1:45.748
    27. Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '16 1:45.901
     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.549 S2: 30.430 S3: 37.669 OPT: 1:36.648
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.477 S2: 16.464 S3: 26.217 OPT: 56.158
    Big Willow: S1: 23.267 S2: 26.970 S3: 25.236 OPT: 1:15.473
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.878 S2: 38.653 S3: 38.472 OPT: 1:59.003
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 28.836 S2: 38.302 S3: 38.479 OPT: 1:45.617
    Total Time: 7:32.899
    Monza Trap Speed: 157mph
    Fuel Usage: 68 liters
    Tire Life: 17 laps

     
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  3. Cuber Tom

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    Thanks for doing these tests. Really useful info.
    BTW its better to use km/h for top speed since its a smaller unit so you get a more precise reading
     
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    I am american. It would really throw my driving off.
     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.582 S2: 30.515 S3: 37.535 OPT: 1:36.632
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.509 S2: 16.655 S3: 26.273 OPT: 56.437
    Big Willow: S1: 23.502 S2: 27.220 S3: 25.230 OPT: 1:15.952
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.663 S2: 38.775 S3: 38.329 OPT: 1:58.767
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 28.201 S2: 38.427 S3: 38.286 OPT: 1:44.914
    Total Time: 7:32.702
    Monza Trap Speed: 161mph
    Fuel Usage: 55 liters
    Tire Life: 13 laps

     
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  6. Bruunz

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    Thanks for doing this. Really appreciate the effort you put into the testing.

    Will you be providing a review of the cars or just stats?
     
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    Great stuff Windfire, you do a great job at this :)
     
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  8. TheBigMan045

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    Interesting with the Alfa using as much fuel as it does
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Just will provide the stats.
     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.547 S2: 30.493 S3: 37.607 OPT: 1:36.647
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.524 S2: 16.635 S3: 26.268 OPT: 56.427
    Big Willow: S1: 23.525 S2: 27.195 S3: 25.220 OPT: 1:15.940
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.864 S2: 38.978 S3: 38.503 OPT: 1:59.345
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 28.090 S2: 38.250 S3: 38.327 OPT: 1:44.667
    Total Time: 7:33.026
    Monza Trap Speed: 162mph
    Fuel Usage: 69 liters
    Tire Life: 12 laps

     
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  12. Bruunz

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    Hey,

    I always had a suspicion that the NSX gr4 had really bad breaks compared to other vehicles and watching z28 in his stream the other day confirmed this.

    Think it's silly to do a Maggoire banked corner test? Minimum braking distance required to make that corner?
     
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    I am curently doing the NSX Gr.4 right now. Have not noticed any greater brake distances compared to the Citroen and the 458.
     
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    As a Jaguar driver, interested to see how that fares. Definitely a straightline machine that I struggle to get around corners.
     
  15. Bruunz

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    Interesting, lets see how it goes. Maybe it will appear with the sector time splits.
     
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    If you look at all my posts you will see the best sector times along with the optimal time at each track.
     
  17. Bruunz

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    haha that's what i was implying :)
     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.508 S2: 30.474 S3: 37.596 OPT: 1:36.578
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.544 S2: 16.631 S3: 26.292 OPT: 56.467
    Big Willow: S1: 23.492 S2: 27.217 S3: 25.166 OPT: 1:15.875
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.793 S2: 38.953 S3: 38.376 OPT: 1:59.122
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 28.216 S2: 38.307 S3: 38.465 OPT: 1:44.988
    Total Time: 7:33.030
    Monza Trap Speed: 161mph
    Fuel Usage: 63 liters
    Tire Life: 12 laps

     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.545 S2: 30.570 S3: 37.589 OPT: 1:36.704
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.552 S2: 16.709 S3: 26.338 OPT: 56.599
    Big Willow: S1: 23.552 S2: 27.408 S3: 25.248 OPT: 1:16.208
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.779 S2: 39.013 S3: 38.508 OPT: 1:59.300
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 28.162 S2: 38.445 S3: 38.445 OPT: 1:45.052
    Total Time: 7:33.863
    Monza Trap Speed: 161mph
    Fuel Usage: 68 liters
    Tire Life: 12 laps

     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.436 S2: 30.519 S3: 37.689 OPT: 1:36.644
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.520 S2: 16.622 S3: 26.298 OPT: 56.440
    Big Willow: S1: 23.438 S2: 27.156 S3: 25.222 OPT: 1:15.816
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.909 S2: 38.828 S3: 38.421 OPT: 1:59.158
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 28.238 S2: 38.473 S3: 38.425 OPT: 1:45.136
    Total Time: 7:33.194
    Monza Trap Speed: 161mph
    Fuel Usage: 68 liters
    Tire Life: 12 laps

     
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  22. DesertPenguin

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    Good stuff here. Can you do the Lexus next please? Thanks :)
     
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    I’ve been considering choosing Mercedes for FiA but the Gr.4 always pushes me away for some reason... not even sure I’ve given it a chance. Would love to see the numbers on that thing. Appreciate all these tests btw.
     
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    Hi, just out of curiosity, you use stock settings for each car ?
     
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    I am using the default settings on everything.
     
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    Shame they didn't use the newer AMG GTS since that's what is in real life. Pretty sure it was known to the world before the game came out so they could have worked with AMG to make it.
     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.474 S2: 30.469 S3: 37.623 OPT: 1:36.564
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.542 S2: 16.612 S3: 26.340 OPT: 56.494
    Big Willow: S1: 23.519 S2: 27.130 S3: 25.235 OPT: 1:15.884
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.693 S2: 38.917 S3: 38.235 OPT: 1:58.845
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 28.240 S2: 38.301 S3: 38.263 OPT: 1:44.804
    Total Time: 7:32.591
    Monza Trap Speed: 160mph
    Fuel Usage: 66 liters
    Tire Life: 10 laps

     
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  28. uMayBeSeated

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    Hey Wind, thanks again for these tests. If it’s not too much trouble, can we get a Ranking Leaderboard per Track as well?

    Edit: thanks, mate!
     
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    Dragon Trail-Gardens: S1: 28.291 S2: 30.326 S3: 37.401 OPT: 1:36.018
    Tsukuba Circuit: S1: 13.452 S2: 16.508 S3: 26.032 OPT: 55.992
    Big Willow: S1: 23.083 S2: 26.841 S3: 25.202 OPT: 1:15.126
    Alsace-Village: S1: 41.688 S2: 38.349 S3: 38.215 OPT: 1:58.252
    Monza No Chicane: S1: 29.307 S2: 38.286 S3: 38.308 OPT: 1:45.901
    Total Time: 7:31.289
    Monza Trap Speed: 153mph
    Fuel Usage: 64 liters
    Tire Life: 16 laps

     
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    Excellent work again mate, looking forward to seeing RCZ at the bottom of the pile haha.
     
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