GT 5 XL Edition

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I see both US edition (XL) and Japan/Asia edition (Spec II) as a retail incentive to gain more sales on both territories and establish a larger potential base for future DLC retail.

When you check the official sales numbers here, you can see the great discrepancy in actual sales of GT5 in US/JP/Asian market and Europe - almost 5 million in EU/PAL and barely 2 million in US/JP/Asia combined.

Reasons for such difference in performance are speculative - history shows how Europe is GT-series strongest base in last 15 years, while decline in overall GT5 sales in US can be pretty much tied to leading position of X360 on US market and influence of the Forza series. In the same time, Japanese and Asian market have never been such strong markets for driving games in general, at least not when compared to EU/US.

Also, some blame for US sales should probably be tied to overall SCEA marketing of GT series in total. From my humble perspective they are just doing it wrong from the very beginning.

To cut long story short, DLC have become an important revenue factor for both Sony and PD in past months, they can track the results of both playtime/sales via their servers/PS Store and this whole *ploy* is probably driven by plan to establish a larger playerbase and also bring back *original purchasers* maybe intimidated by update-stream in the past and non-aware of the current state of the game/DLC program.

Also, Spec II release in Europe can easily be in the pipeline, but SCEE and PD could also be very smart in keeping it silent. If the current sales of GT5 Platinum Edition is fine - and it is known how GT5 often shows up on German/France/Italy Top20 sales charts even today - and DLC sales are going as planned (we can also safely presume how Europe/PAL is buying majority of DLC regularly), announcing Spec II with all DLC included would just hurt the current sales.

This way or another, we'll know soon enough ;)
 
Not using boyband music?

I think its coming to Europe but not anytime soon as we got a a platinum release.
 
At least there's an option to override that stuff with you're own music! However, with the the US being in the minority, mp4 formatted music is not applicable for use in GT5 and with Apple being the biggest music supplier and one who uses this format, some may have to learn to like elevator tunes. Anyway, is this GT5 XL edition the same game as the original, just updated? If so, does memory transfer over?
 
Sorry I meant the original intro music. The jazz is fantastic. I love the GT menu music. I also enabled the classic music selection. The GT menus have a chill out quality to them that I loved since the first game.
 
Is anyone picking this up today in the US? I have a question to anyone who has it:

I'm trying to spare some room on my PS3 hard drive, does this disc in anyway minimize the amount of space taken on the hard drive?
 
JRayWRX
Is anyone picking this up today in the US? I have a question to anyone who has it:

I'm trying to spare some room on my PS3 hard drive, does this disc in anyway minimize the amount of space taken on the hard drive?
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It by no means should reduce the space taken up. It's still the same base GT5 game, but comes with the first two groups of DLC code vouchers.
 
GTPorsche
It by no means should reduce the space taken up. It's still the same base GT5 game, but comes with the first two groups of DLC code vouchers.
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Well, it isnt just the base game released a year ago. From what I understand, this disc has 2.0 on it. So all the major updates from release until 2.0 should be on the disc. Which should save a couple GB's, right? I could be wrong. I'm running out of space. :scared:
 
i've saw GT5 Spec II here in Taiwan today. There is nothing special in box design. No any book, no special box.. Looks like generic PS3 game. There is a red sticker on box telling that game includes DLC with 19 cars, 2 tracks (5 layouts), 100 paint, etc.. So, it means this version includes update up to 2.02 with all DLCs up to 2.02 version. Probably DLCs are downloadable through PSN voucher.
So, basically, this edition is for people who didn't buy GT5 yet. Not for GT5 lovers. I didn't find anything why i should buy this edition. If it could have special package and book then i would by for collection. With current outlook - no way.
 
JRayWRX
Well, it isnt just the base game released a year ago. From what I understand, this disc has 2.0 on it. So all the major updates from release until 2.0 should be on the disc. Which should save a couple GB's, right? I could be wrong. I'm running out of space. :scared:
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It should still install to the same size.
 
So I have the original GT5 game...but with no internet connection...hence no updates:

Do I have to delete my game file if I buy GT5 XL disc since I would like to have the new 2.0 game with all the updates.....

OR --- just load up the new XL disc and it will merge files/save game file etc with the new updated game???

ANY HELP APPRECIATED :)

Thx Guys
 
I know many probably aren't interested in XL's release today, but I was going to get one for a friend as a gift and am contemplating getting one for myself if it saves room on my HD.

So get this, I went to WalMart, Gamestop, and Best Buy and NONE of those places have it, let alone even ordered. So was the game delayed? Gamestop looked at all the stores in the city and none had it, and again they said that they dont even have it ordered. So I get home and look on amazon and they say a 2-4 week ship out.

Anyone in the US see it? Is it just my area? I'm assuming no, since amazon doesn't seem to have it either.

Anyone hear any news about a delay or shipment snafu?
 
I had the same issue in Tucson, Az..... No gamestop has it. All they said was that the game was released today and maybe they would have copies by week's end.

So, once again if i have the original game with no updates and i buy the XL spec 2.0 i do not have to delete my game files to load up the new disc?? Everything should merge together??

Just want the clarification.... Sorry i am still confused:-
 
Without anyone having the game, I don't know. If I were you, I would delete the install data but of course keep your saved game data and install the game data of the XL/2.0 disc.
 
Just remember that replays, tracks, and photos are part of your game data, not saved data. So you will lose those as well...
 
Wow... I sure hope this disc comes with a prompt on what to do if the original gt5 game is installed :-

I dont have any tracks or replays saved... But i do have some good photos.

My hope is that the new game file would just merge with the old installed game file.... And saved data would remain.

Guess i will find out if the XL ever makes it to shelves
 
I went to Wal Mart and Best Buy in east Texas and neither of them had it. The weird thing is, it's not even on best buys website. I guess we shall see.
 
Alazuris
I went to Wal Mart and Best Buy in east Texas and neither of them had it. The weird thing is, it's not even on best buys website. I guess we shall see.
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Yep. Went to 4 different places. Same thing. Wonder what is going on?
 
MOTORTRENDmitch
Sadly that's a decent point, I how ever don't mind the Jazzy music too much.. But people with a less evasive taste in music have a reason to hate on the elevator tunes..
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On a random side note to this, my mother walked in on me once when I was in the GT5 menus and laughed, saying she thought this was supposed to be a racing game. I said to her it was a "classy" racing game before she rolled her eyes and left.
 
cpa5
I had the same issue in Tucson, Az..... No gamestop has it. All they said was that the game was released today and maybe they would have copies by week's end.

So, once again if i have the original game with no updates and i buy the XL spec 2.0 i do not have to delete my game files to load up the new disc?? Everything should merge together??

Just want the clarification.... Sorry i am still confused:-
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I've been wondering the same thing about the file, let me know what you find out.
 
Installation of updates not exactly adds size for total. Update can just replace some old files with patched one.
The only way to reduce size on HDD is to use XL/Spec2 version without installation to HDD. But it will be terribly slow and will wear lazer quicker.
If you will choose to install XL/Spec2 to HDD then space occupied in HDD will be the same as original version + all updates.
 
Just got mine today, guess I was expecting to much.. Half if me thinks it wasn't worth it and wants to take it back, and the other half of me wants to keep it for collectors sake. Thoughts?
 
amar212
I see both US edition (XL) and Japan/Asia edition (Spec II) as a retail incentive to gain more sales on both territories and establish a larger potential base for future DLC retail.

When you check the official sales numbers here, you can see the great discrepancy in actual sales of GT5 in US/JP/Asian market and Europe - almost 5 million in EU/PAL and barely 2 million in US/JP/Asia combined.

Reasons for such difference in performance are speculative - history shows how Europe is GT-series strongest base in last 15 years, while decline in overall GT5 sales in US can be pretty much tied to leading position of X360 on US market and influence of the Forza series. In the same time, Japanese and Asian market have never been such strong markets for driving games in general, at least not when compared to EU/US.

Also, some blame for US sales should probably be tied to overall SCEA marketing of GT series in total. From my humble perspective they are just doing it wrong from the very beginning.

To cut long story short, DLC have become an important revenue factor for both Sony and PD in past months, they can track the results of both playtime/sales via their servers/PS Store and this whole *ploy* is probably driven by plan to establish a larger playerbase and also bring back *original purchasers* maybe intimidated by update-stream in the past and non-aware of the current state of the game/DLC program.

Also, Spec II release in Europe can easily be in the pipeline, but SCEE and PD could also be very smart in keeping it silent. If the current sales of GT5 Platinum Edition is fine - and it is known how GT5 often shows up on German/France/Italy Top20 sales charts even today - and DLC sales are going as planned (we can also safely presume how Europe/PAL is buying majority of DLC regularly), announcing Spec II with all DLC included would just hurt the current sales.

This way or another, we'll know soon enough ;)
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Excellent post Amar, I think you are right on the button there with a number of points.

And for those who already have GT5 and all the updates, why on earth would you want the XL edition when it is exactly the same? Surely it's a repackage of the original game but removing the need to download about a dozen updates, throwing in some DLC content but nothing else? To me it makes perfect sense for someone who hasn't got the game yet, and no sense for someone who has.
 
I just hope it doesn't get cancelled. This is my only hope of playing GT5 again since like I've mentioned many times in other posts, I'm stuck with v1.00 and can't download the immense amount of updates to this date.

I haven't touched the game for more than a month now because it makes me sad everytime I think that I'm playing an obsolete version of the game.
 

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