GT 7 GEEZER CLUB

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Saturday and Sunday Geezer Races

Cars we may use

Any Gr.1 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.2 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.3 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM/RH
Any Gr.4 - (BoP No Tuning) - RH

PP Races - Road Cars Only - (PP RACES HAVE TO BE POSTED IN ADVANCE - NO LAST MINUTE RACES)
PP < 500 - may use any Confort Tires
PP > = 500 < 700 use any Sport Tires
PP>= 700 Use Racing Hard tires


Race and Track conditions:
Weather: Sunny and Clear Day (we will try a few different formats but no rain for now)
Laps: 5 to 9 depending on track length
Grid: Stand start
Tire: consumption during race will be set @ 3x for all races.
Fuel: consumption during race will be set at 100 liters and 7x for all races.
Qualify: fastest first for every race
Penalty System: on
Boost: Strong
Slipstream: Real


SATURDAY RACES
1st Race
Interlagos
Laps: 6
Car: New RUF BoP - SS

2nd Race
Fuji
Laps: 11
Car: BMW M3 Gr.3 - BoP - RM/RS (One Make, Mandatory tire change, Tire 5X )


SUNDAY RACES

1st Race
Nurburgring Sprint (Short Track)
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.4 - Bop - RH


2nd Race
Laguna
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.2 - BoP - RM



4th Place chooses combo for next race

See ya there!

PS 1 - Lobby is for invited people ONLY. if you are a Geezer (+60 yrs) and would like to participate, ask on this thread to be a member of the club.
PS 2 - A headset is requested to participate.
PS 3 - To join the lobby Sat and Sun, send a (simple) FR to GT-RaceAce and we will set you on the party and lobby.
 
Wednesday Night Geezer Race June 4th


T: 3x F:3x


1st Race - Brands Hatch GP - 5 Laps

Car: 400pp Mini Cooper S '65 Only - CS Tires - Tuning permitted


2nd Race: Kyoto Driving Park Yamagiwa Reverse - 7 Laps

Car: Gr.B - RH Tires - Tuning permitted


3rd Race: Interlagos - 7 laps

Car: Gr3 - BOP - RM Tires

Check the new time:

Room opens at 7:00 pm EDT , Race starts at 7:30
Open to all Geezers friends and friends of friends
Send friend request to: oldboy43

Please note that is the last hosting for me for the summer. From June 11th to August 20th, my wife and I have Musical Concert in the park every Wednesday night, which we enjoy very much.

Have a good racing summer everyone.
 
My surgery went very well. There was alot of damage so they had to do what's called a reverse shoulder replacement. I'm pretty much a Cyborg now, just saying lol. Just wanted to let yall know that I'm good to go!
Glad to hear it, RayRay! Heal up!
 
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What is "H"?
Did you mean to type "Happy Hump Day Homies!" But saw a squirrel?

Me, I darn please as punch to hear your voice. I was thinking you hooked a manatee, whiles out drowning worms, was stoned and thought she was a mermaid and swam off to the Octopus' Garden.
 
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Saturday Geezer Races

Cars we may use

Any Gr.1 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.2 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.3 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM/RH
Any Gr.4 - (BoP No Tuning) - RH

PP Races - Road Cars Only - (PP RACES HAVE TO BE POSTED IN ADVANCE - NO LAST MINUTE RACES)
PP < 500 - may use any Confort Tires
PP > = 500 < 700 use any Sport Tires
PP>= 700 Use Racing Hard tires


Race and Track conditions:
Weather: Sunny and Clear Day (we will try a few different formats but no rain for now)
Laps: 5 to 9 depending on track length
Grid: Stand start
Tire: consumption during race will be set @ 3x for all races.
Fuel: consumption during race will be set at 100 liters and 7x for all races.
Qualify: fastest first for every race
Penalty System: on
Boost: Strong
Slipstream: Real


SATURDAY RACES
1st Race
Deep Forest
Laps: 5
Car: 500pp European Road Cars - Any Sport Tires

2nd Race
24 hr. LeMans
Laps: 3
Car: 700pp Corvettes - RH (One Make, Mandatory , Tire 3X - Fuel 3X )
 
Saturday and Sunday Geezer Races

Cars we may use

Any Gr.1 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.2 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.3 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM/RH
Any Gr.4 - (BoP No Tuning) - RH

PP Races - Road Cars Only - (PP RACES HAVE TO BE POSTED IN ADVANCE - NO LAST MINUTE RACES)
PP < 500 - may use any Confort Tires
PP > = 500 < 700 use any Sport Tires
PP>= 700 Use Racing Hard tires


Race and Track conditions:
Weather: Sunny and Clear Day (we will try a few different formats but no rain for now)
Laps: 5 to 9 depending on track length
Grid: Stand start
Tire: consumption during race will be set @ 3x for all races.
Fuel: consumption during race will be set at 100 liters and 7x for all races.
Qualify: fastest first for every race
Penalty System: on
Boost: Strong
Slipstream: Real


SATURDAY RACES


1st Race
Tokyo (with the containers)
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.4 - BoP - RH

2nd Race
Daytona Road
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.3 - Bop - RM



SUNDAY RACES

1st Race
Brands
Laps: 6
Car: Gr.4 BOP RH

2nd Race
Autopolis
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.2 BOP RM




4th Place chooses combo for next race

See ya there!

PS 1 - Lobby is for invited people ONLY. if you are a Geezer (+60 yrs) and would like to participate, ask on this thread to be a member of the club.
PS 2 - A headset is requested to participate.
PS 3 - To join the lobby Sat and Sun, send a (simple) FR to GT-RaceAce and we will set you on the party and lobby.
 
Hey all - My back went out last weekend and so I have not been on GT7. Installing new gate post, I put 15 bags of concrete through the mixer without issue, then bent down to rinse concrete splashes off one of the wood posts, and that was all she wrote. Went down like a sack of spuds. I've been hobbling around like an old Geezer all week. Worried that if I get into my Logitech Playseat, I'll have to call an ambulance to get out again! May give it a go later. With F1 this weekend, I won't be about anyway.
 
Hey all - My back went out last weekend and so I have not been on GT7. Installing new gate post, I put 15 bags of concrete through the mixer without issue, then bent down to rinse concrete splashes off one of the wood posts, and that was all she wrote. Went down like a sack of spuds. I've been hobbling around like an old Geezer all week. Worried that if I get into my Logitech Playseat, I'll have to call an ambulance to get out again! May give it a go later. With F1 this weekend, I won't be about anyway.
Well, that sucks!

Be careful getting in n outta the tub, that scenario would be infinitely worse.
 
Saturday and Sunday Geezer Races

Cars we may use

Any Gr.1 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.2 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.3 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM/RH
Any Gr.4 - (BoP No Tuning) - RH

PP Races - Road Cars Only - (PP RACES HAVE TO BE POSTED IN ADVANCE - NO LAST MINUTE RACES)
PP < 500 - may use any Confort Tires
PP > = 500 < 700 use any Sport Tires
PP>= 700 Use Racing Hard tires


Race and Track conditions:
Weather: Sunny and Clear Day (we will try a few different formats but no rain for now)
Laps: 5 to 9 depending on track length
Grid: Stand start
Tire: consumption during race will be set @ 3x for all races.
Fuel: consumption during race will be set at 100 liters and 7x for all races.
Qualify: fastest first for every race
Penalty System: on
Boost: Strong
Slipstream: Real


SATURDAY RACES


1st Race
Glen (Boot)
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.4 - BoP - RH

2nd Race
Fuji
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.3 - Bop - RM



SUNDAY RACES

1st Race
Interlagos
Laps: 6
Car: Gr.4 BOP RH

2nd Race
Nurburgring
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.3 BOP RM




4th Place chooses combo for next race

See ya there!

PS 1 - Lobby is for invited people ONLY. if you are a Geezer (+60 yrs) and would like to participate, ask on this thread to be a member of the club.
PS 2 - A headset is requested to participate.
PS 3 - To join the lobby Sat and Sun, send a (simple) FR to GT-RaceAce and we will set you on the party and lobby.
 
Wednesday Night Geezers

Looks like nothing planned yet for tonight.
I'll open a lobby at 8pm tonight

1st Race: Ferrari Challenge
Any Ferrari
Max 700PP on RH tires
Lago Maggiore Full Course
5 Laps

2nd Race: Touring Car 800
Any Racing Car
Max 800PP on any racing tires
Suzuka
7 Laps

3rd Race: Austrian GP
F3500-A
BOP on RM tires
RedBull Ring
10 Laps
Weather on Random
 
Wednesday Night Geezers

Looks like nothing planned yet for tonight.
I'll open a lobby at 8pm tonight

1st Race: Ferrari Challenge
Any Ferrari
Max 700PP on RH tires
Lago Maggiore Full Course
5 Laps

2nd Race: Touring Car 800
Any Racing Car
Max 800PP on any racing tires
Suzuka
7 Laps

3rd Race: Austrian GP
F3500-A
BOP on RM tires
RedBull Ring
10 Laps
Weather on Random
Thank you Luc for keeping the Wednesday night racing alive. Good racing.
 
Saturday and Sunday Geezer Races

Cars we may use

Any Gr.1 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.2 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM
Any Gr.3 - (BoP No Tuning) - RM/RH
Any Gr.4 - (BoP No Tuning) - RH

PP Races - Road Cars Only - (PP RACES HAVE TO BE POSTED IN ADVANCE - NO LAST MINUTE RACES)
PP < 500 - may use any Confort Tires
PP > = 500 < 700 use any Sport Tires
PP>= 700 Use Racing Hard tires


Race and Track conditions:
Weather: Sunny and Clear Day (we will try a few different formats but no rain for now)
Laps: 5 to 9 depending on track length
Grid: Stand start
Tire: consumption during race will be set @ 3x for all races.
Fuel: consumption during race will be set at 100 liters and 7x for all races.
Qualify: fastest first for every race
Penalty System: on
Boost: Strong
Slipstream: Real


SATURDAY RACES


1st Race
Laguna
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.4 - BoP - RH

2nd Race
Road Atlanta
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.3 - Bop - RM



SUNDAY RACES

1st Race
Daytona Road
Laps: 6
Car: Gr.4 BOP RH

2nd Race
Suzuka
Laps: 7
Car: Gr.3 BOP RM




4th Place chooses combo for next race

See ya there!

PS 1 - Lobby is for invited people ONLY. if you are a Geezer (+60 yrs) and would like to participate, ask on this thread to be a member of the club.
PS 2 - A headset is requested to participate.
PS 3 - To join the lobby Sat and Sun, send a (simple) FR to GT-RaceAce and we will set you on the party and lobby.
 
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@Ray-Ray here are the settings I got from Google Gemini for the Gr2 and 3. It did help a little.
Ok, aqui está a tradução para o inglês americano:


You're describing a very common and frustrating issue in GT7 with Direct Drive wheels like the Fanatec Gran Turismo DD+: the lack of detailed tactile feedback (Force Feedback - FFB) about the track surface, especially in corners with Group 2 and Group 3 cars, where you'd expect to feel the grip or its loss (friction).

The "asphalt feel" or friction is fundamental to sensing the car's grip limit. In GT7, the Force Feedback configuration is a bit different from other simulators, and some parameters can "mask" or dilute this sensation.

Here are the GT7 (and potentially your Fanatec wheel) settings you should focus on to try and improve that asphalt response:

1. Force Feedback Settings in GT7 (Main Game Menu):

  • Controller Settings:
    • Force Feedback Max. Torque: This is the most crucial.
      • Goal: Increase this value to allow the DD+ wheel to deliver more force. Start by increasing it gradually. If it's too low, the wheel might feel "smooth" because it's not transmitting the smaller forces.
      • Caution: A very high value can lead to clipping, where the wheel can't reproduce the maximum force, and the feeling becomes "washed out" at the limit. Your DD+ is strong, so you have plenty of headroom.
    • Force Feedback Sensitivity: This controls the amplitude of the FFB effects.
      • Goal: This is the key parameter for asphalt textures and small forces. Increase it gradually. It amplifies lower intensity force feedback, which includes the feel of the track texture and the transition of grip in corners. If it's low, the wheel will feel smooth.
      • Balance: Finding the balance between "Max. Torque" and "Sensitivity" is crucial. Many feel that increasing Sensitivity is more important for the "asphalt feel" in GT7.
Suggested Starting Point for GT7 FFB:

Many DD users in GT7 start with something around:

  • Force Feedback Max. Torque: 5 or 6 (can go up to 7 or 8 depending on preference and car).
  • Force Feedback Sensitivity: 5 or 6 (can also go higher to feel more texture, but be careful not to oversaturate).
Experiment with these values and adjust in small increments (+0.5 or +1.0) while driving. Use a car you know well and a track with a good variety of surfaces and corners.

2. Your Fanatec GT DD+ Wheel Settings (Wheel Menu/Driver):

GT7 communicates well with the DD+, but the wheel's base settings are also important. Make sure you're not using profiles that "filter" too much information.

  • FF (Force Feedback): Set to 100 (or the wheel's maximum). This is your overall "gain."
  • NDP (Natural Damper): Keep it low, maybe 5 or 10. Too high an NDP can "smooth out" the FFB feel.
  • NFR (Natural Friction): Keep it low, maybe 5 or 10. Like Damper, too much artificial friction can mask the real track feedback.
  • NIN (Natural Inertia): Generally low, around 5.
  • INT (Interpolation): 3 or 4 is a good starting point. Very high values can over-smooth the FFB.
  • FEI (Force Effect Intensity): This is for "canned" effects like collisions. It doesn't directly affect the asphalt feel but can mask it. Keep it at 100.
  • DRF (Drift Mode): OFF or 0. This adds smoothing for drifting and can remove detail.
  • FOR (Force), SPR (Spring), DMP (Damper): Leave them at 100 on the wheel, unless you want to lower the overall force.
Recommended Process:

  1. Start with basic Fanatec wheel settings: Leave FOR, SPR, DMP, FEI at 100, and NDP, NFR, NIN, and DRF at low values (0-10).
  2. Enter GT7 with a Group 2 or Group 3 car (or any car where you feel the issue).
  3. Adjust the GT7 FFB parameters first: Focus on Force Feedback Max. Torque and, most importantly, Force Feedback Sensitivity. Increase Sensitivity gradually until you start feeling the track textures and grip changes in corners.
  4. Test on different tracks and corner types.
  5. Make fine adjustments: If Sensitivity is too high and causes unwanted "noise" or vibrations, you can adjust it down or try a bit more INT on the wheel, but start by adjusting Sensitivity in-game.
The "better asphalt feel" will primarily come from an increase in Force Feedback Sensitivity within the GT7 settings, combined with a wheel that allows that sensitivity to come through (like your DD+ with low Damper/Friction/Inertia settings)
 
Wednesday Geezer races at 8PM EDT

Race 1: Asian 500PP
Asian Cars
Comfort Tires
Autopolis Short
5 Laps

Race 2: European 600PP
European Cars
Sport Tires
Goodwood
7 Laps

Race 3: American 700PP
American Cars
Race Tires
Trial Mountain
8 Laps
 
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