GT-86 No Turbo solution

[oopssorryy]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/detroit-motor-show-2012-best-of-the-rest-2012-01-10

It's the first pic, but feel free to keep looking. With all of those turbocharged Japanese horses the drift 86 (with the right set up) could really give many supercars a run for their money. PD I wants this now!

BTW anyone know a vague power figure for the new NSX?

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

We should be able to Turbo Charge the GT86.. Its garbage we can't

 

[Blitz24]

There's been no release on the engine specifications on the new NSX. Drivetrain should be AWD.

 

[Corpsey]

With all of those turbocharged Japanese horses the drift 86 (with the right set up) could really give many supercars a run for their money.

I dunno.. the point system in GT5 seems to be biased to cars with the most HP anyways, so the speed 12 will be at the top until another 1000+hp car with supercharger is available.. unless you just mean free run

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

I dunno.. the point system in GT5 seems to be biased to cars with the most HP anyways, so the speed 12 will be at the top until another 1000+hp car with supercharger is available.. unless you just mean free run

he meant stock super cars

There's been no release on the engine specifications on the new NSX. Drivetrain should be AWD.

Will be AWD, the car has Acura's Famous SH-AWD (super handling all wheel drive)

 

[Blitz24]

he meant stock super cars




Will be AWD, the car has Acura's Famous SH-AWD (super handling all wheel drive)

I say should be because there's always the chance it ends up as ----.

 

[THEPUNISHER]

the solution is we have the choice of turbo or supercharge any car in this case gt-86 turbo .

 

[godlameroso]

New nsx is gonna have about 380hp from the petrol engine, and another 120 from the electric motors.

 

[TSracing]

Back to GT86!

There are no turbo/compressor because both Toyota and Subaru are focusing on this being a NA car. Both manufacturers have said there will be no turbo on this car. Even the STI version will not have turbo. (Subaru say)

They might say that just for marketing reasons, not wanting people to wait for a turbo version and not buy the car in the beginning. But I really think this car will focus on being NA.

Fitting a turbo on this engine in the GT86/BRZ chassis is not as easy due to its the engines low mounting position, and the available space under the hood. They say if the car would have a turbo, the car would have been engineered with the space for it, and a drivetrain suitable for the added HP and torque. Making it heavier, and more expensive.
The same engine block with turbo will be in the new Impreza WRX. But it is mounted much higher there. And maybe with a drivetrain more suitable.
(When that said. I do not think the GT86s drivetrain is weak. It think it will handle a lot more power. We already know transmission and diff is from/based on higher powered lexus if i remember correctly.)

Also, I think a BRZ with turbo would mess too much up the the impreza line up. The WRX (STI) would not like to have a lower range car be faster.
Scion FR-S, the US version of the car is aimed at younger people. Generally cheaper cars. A high performance, high price car car will not fit the Scion brand.
The Toyota GT86 is based on three cars. But it is mainly a tribute to the AE86 models. The focus was affordable, and fun without extreme power, turbo (lag), or super sticky tires.
Most of the tuners have also been focusing on this car being light weight with a high reving NA engine (talking about the old 86s)
This might also have something to do with the high compression on the engine.

We will probably see aftermarket turbo or supercharger kits in the future, because there will always be people wanting it.
But the normal road car will not focus on having a turbo, so neither did GT5.
I think Toyota had something to say about that too. Im pretty sure they used GT5 as a marketing channel. It had own promo videos when being released. They have had several concepts of the car in GT5. It is the ONLY FREE road car that has been released to the game. And for some reason, it has sport hard as standard. Making it seem faster and gripper right out from the dealership compared to its rivals.
It think all that is marketing. And not having a turbo option in the game would make scene if Toyota have no plans of fitting a turbo in real life life.

The car will max out right above the 500pp range. That is in my opinion very good for a NA car that originally had 198bhp.

 

[Short Bus]

IMO it's unlikely that we'll see an aftermarket turbo solution for this car. Getting the piping done would be a nightmare. My prediction is that we'll see superchargers for it though.

Still, this is a game which offers turbo upgrades for most cars anyway, so I don't understand why they don't at least let us dream.

 

[oopssorryy]

The 86 in the link is said to make 600 hp, with backing from some big wigs in the turbo world. Its doable, and it now exists.... Sort of.

 

[godlameroso]

Back to GT86!

There are no turbo/compressor because both Toyota and Subaru are focusing on this being a NA car. Both manufacturers have said there will be no turbo on this car. Even the STI version will not have turbo. (Subaru say)

They might say that just for marketing reasons, not wanting people to wait for a turbo version and not buy the car in the beginning. But I really think this car will focus on being NA.

Fitting a turbo on this engine in the GT86/BRZ chassis is not as easy due to its the engines low mounting position, and the available space under the hood. They say if the car would have a turbo, the car would have been engineered with the space for it, and a drivetrain suitable for the added HP and torque. Making it heavier, and more expensive.
The same engine block with turbo will be in the new Impreza WRX. But it is mounted much higher there. And maybe with a drivetrain more suitable.
(When that said. I do not think the GT86s drivetrain is weak. It think it will handle a lot more power. We already know transmission and diff is from/based on higher powered lexus if i remember correctly.)

Also, I think a BRZ with turbo would mess too much up the the impreza line up. The WRX (STI) would not like to have a lower range car be faster.
Scion FR-S, the US version of the car is aimed at younger people. Generally cheaper cars. A high performance, high price car car will not fit the Scion brand.
The Toyota GT86 is based on three cars. But it is mainly a tribute to the AE86 models. The focus was affordable, and fun without extreme power, turbo (lag), or super sticky tires.
Most of the tuners have also been focusing on this car being light weight with a high reving NA engine (talking about the old 86s)
This might also have something to do with the high compression on the engine.

We will probably see aftermarket turbo or supercharger kits in the future, because there will always be people wanting it.
But the normal road car will not focus on having a turbo, so neither did GT5.
I think Toyota had something to say about that too. Im pretty sure they used GT5 as a marketing channel. It had own promo videos when being released. They have had several concepts of the car in GT5. It is the ONLY FREE road car that has been released to the game. And for some reason, it has sport hard as standard. Making it seem faster and gripper right out from the dealership compared to its rivals.
It think all that is marketing. And not having a turbo option in the game would make scene if Toyota have no plans of fitting a turbo in real life life.

The car will max out right above the 500pp range. That is in my opinion very good for a NA car that originally had 198bhp.

They could mount a low boost turbo purely for response, if it's low boost like 5-6psi, they could even do it without charge-cooling, kind of how the Lotus Exige S doesn't have an intercooler, and it boosts more IIRC. At 5-6psi, you could probably expect the GT86 to have about 245-260 bhp, much more fun for a RWD car if you ask me.