GT SPORTS BRAKE ISSUE!!

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Hi all, I've recently started playing Gt Sports & my immediate experience from a driving experience has been good with the exception of when it comes to braking on approach to a corner. The brakes are the worst!!! The car almost refuse to stop!!! Ive owned all the Gt games from the beginning & never experienced anything as bad as this in Gt ior any other driving game. & as a result makes for an extermely frustrating experience!!
I welcome any comments or solutions on this subject.... There needs to be a fix for this asap!!!
 
Hello! It would be good to know what settings you are driving with. for example ABS on or off or which tires you have selected. would also be interesting if you play with steering wheel or DS4.
 
Worst offender to me is the F40. It's almost offensive that the developers would think an F40 takes that long to brake! I couldn't believe what I was experiencing the first time I drove it. Never used it again since.
 
Lebowski
Worst offender to me is the F40. It's almost offensive that the developers would think an F40 takes that long to brake! I couldn't believe what I was experiencing the first time I drove it. Never used it again since.
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I'd agree on that the F40 just seems to use wind resistance to slow down. Having not driven an F40 in real life it may actually be that poor!
 
Having no race brakes is a strange decision however I'm ok with it.

Here's why... I've driven some high performance cars on some real life tracks here and they have hairpins at the end of the straights and you may have anything from 200-250km to say 40km/h turns.

This is 125-150mph down to 25mph hairpins. And this is every 1.30 to 2 mins on a typical track.

Even on a car w. Brembo six piston calipers this is hard going and this is what GT Sport is doing (I guess? who knows what's happening inside the mind of Kaz)

You have to give yourself heaps of braking zone. Look at the cones and signs on the corners.

This isnt like GT6 where you can hammer the car very late in a corner and get away with it.

I get that this is annoying on a 900hp Skyline or Aventador and you cant drop the brake and experience 6G negative acceleration but that was never realistic in the first place.
 
Are you sure it isn't just that you aren't used to driving these cars?

Please give more insight, a video or something, your settings, what car, track etc
 
Barbados246_8
Hi all, I've recently started playing Gt Sports & my immediate experience from a driving experience has been good with the exception of when it comes to braking on approach to a corner. The brakes are the worst!!! The car almost refuse to stop!!! Ive owned all the Gt games from the beginning & never experienced anything as bad as this in Gt ior any other driving game. & as a result makes for an extermely frustrating experience!!
I welcome any comments or solutions on this subject.... There needs to be a fix for this asap!!!
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Its not like the old GT's where you could get away with awful driving. You need to drive better. The tyres squealing ? Thats bad driving. Skidding? Bad driving. Brake earlier, slower is faster comnig out of a corner :cheers:. Practice practice practice it will come.
 
Lebowski
Worst offender to me is the F40. It's almost offensive that the developers would think an F40 takes that long to brake! I couldn't believe what I was experiencing the first time I drove it. Never used it again since.
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Like the E30 M3, that car is now 30 years old and will be destroyed on track by even mid-level sports cars. It's a shame we can't upgrade brakes as it makes major power upgrades for road cars pointless. I just reduce weight, add a little power and fit better sports tyres.
 
According to Assetto Corsa, which I trust as a much more realistic simulation of a cars capabilities than GTS, the F40 does indeed have the stopping distance of a 25,000 ton ocean going supertanker :D
 
also could be hitting the emergency brake instead of the actual brake. this would make you slide forever until stopping, on a wall.
 
Hi all & thanks for the responses.
All the advice has been noted. I use a Logitech G29 using manual option for gear shifts along with no ABS.
I consider myself a very competent driver in real & gaming situations & i would admit earlier braking is necessary in this new edition, but i still say the braking experience is still too severe a change. I also agree there should be an option to upgrade the brakes & adjust the weight bias which would aid in the braking experience.
Please note i encounter this lack of braking more in the road cars, not so much in the race variants. . (NB. The Ferrari F40 has always been a difficult car to stop in the previous Gt series).

Traks1
According to Assetto Corsa, which I trust as a much more realistic simulation of a cars capabilities than GTS, the F40 does indeed have the stopping distance of a 25,000 ton ocean going supertanker :D
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Lol!!@

Winnie847
also could be hitting the emergency brake instead of the actual brake. this would make you slide forever until stopping, on a wall.
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No emergency brakes by mistake here....

Macboyilija
Aren’t you mistakenly pushing the clutch instead of the brake pedal ? The brake pedal is in the middle !
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No clutch engagements here.

flamingchariot
As stated above ...the issue it seems is the driver - namely yourself. Have some patience
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I agree that I'll need alot of patience with this game.

TonyJZX
Having no race brakes is a strange decision however I'm ok with it.

Here's why... I've driven some high performance cars on some real life tracks here and they have hairpins at the end of the straights and you may have anything from 200-250km to say 40km/h turns.

This is 125-150mph down to 25mph hairpins. And this is every 1.30 to 2 mins on a typical track.

Even on a car w. Brembo six piston calipers this is hard going and this is what GT Sport is doing (I guess? who knows what's happening inside the mind of Kaz)

You have to give yourself heaps of braking zone. Look at the cones and signs on the corners.

This isnt like GT6 where you can hammer the car very late in a corner and get away with it.

I get that this is annoying on a 900hp Skyline or Aventador and you cant drop the brake and experience 6G negative acceleration but that was never realistic in the first place.
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Use ABS, using zero ABS in Gt Sport is just frustrating and as you discovered not that easy.

Even with it I find braking not that great, ever since the update a while ago which improved the traction levels. I find using less braking force better more often that not.
 
Based on your replies I would say that this is just how it goes with ABS off on road coars, especially the higher-powered heavy ones. Personally, I find it almost impossible to race with ABS off, but I admittedly haven't put in the effort to get good at it because most racers use it, even if they don't use other assists.

Good luck to you. I'm sure you'll be trail-braking with the best of them in no time.
 
I never leave braking to the last moment & i agree the earlier editions were unrealistic with the late braking aspect, but as i said in my response the road cars suffer with this severe change.

Winnie847
Based on your replies I would say that this is just how it goes with ABS off on road coars, especially the higher-powered heavy ones. Personally, I find it almost impossible to race with ABS off, but I admittedly haven't put in the effort to get good at it because most racers use it, even if they don't use other assists.

Good luck to you. I'm sure you'll be trail-braking with the best of them in no time.
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My apologies everyone, i use abs @ 1.
 
ABS options are Default, Weak and Off.

Which one do you use?

I use default and have never tried the weak setting. ABS off was too difficult when I tried it.
 
Winnie847
ABS options are Default, Weak and Off.

Which one do you use?

I use default and have never tried the weak setting. ABS off was too difficult when I tried it.
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Ok noted, i use weak, but i'll try default

Hi all, Winnie847 suggested putting ABS to default, where previously i used weak & I'm pleased to announce that default setting made the difference.
So thanks to all the suggestions of which i received, but especially to Winnie847 who's suggestion was the answer to my desparate situation i found myself in..

Again thanks all..
 
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yes it's crazy how much difference it makes! this thread has also inspired me to try the "weak" setting just to see if it is manageable now that I'm a little more experienced and have my own pedals. I'm pretty sure I'll be back to default in no time, lol.
 
Winnie847
yes it's crazy how much difference it makes! this thread has also inspired me to try the "weak" setting just to see if it is manageable now that I'm a little more experienced and have my own pedals. I'm pretty sure I'll be back to default in no time, lol.
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I know what you mean !!! Lol
 
Sander 001
I use ABS weak and I like the braking but I don’t just stand on the pedal.
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You are correct, just setup earlier for the bends and have the gearing set right to give some engine compression for those braking situation, especially driving automatic. I usually drive manual, but my paddle shifters are malfunctioning so it refuses to gear down when i select to do so, causing me to miss my braking points...
 
Have you tried adjusting your Brake Balance? Might help.

My biggest complaint about GT Sport's brake simulation is that it's pretty numb, and it feels like you can get away with much more simultaneous braking + steering than you could in Assetto Corsa or real life.

There's almost no point in bleeding off the brakes as you wind in more steering lock (is this trail braking?).
 
Was about to say, how much work have you put into finding the best brake balance for each car? It makes a colossal difference.
 
senzr
Have you tried adjusting your Brake Balance? Might help.

My biggest complaint about GT Sport's brake simulation is that it's pretty numb, and it feels like you can get away with much more simultaneous braking + steering than you could in Assetto Corsa or real life.

There's almost no point in bleeding off the brakes as you wind in more steering lock (is this trail braking?).
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Ive also done the adjustments to yhe brake bias & that too has helped. I guess i was so much in GT6 mode, that i was looking for the same exact experience (bolting on racing brakes ) & as a result got discouraged in my initial attempts. I've even advised a friend who was experiencing the same culture shock of the advice provided & it has delivered positive results...
 
Barbados246_8
You are correct, just setup earlier for the bends and have the gearing set right to give some engine compression for those braking situation, especially driving automatic. I usually drive manual, but my paddle shifters are malfunctioning so it refuses to gear down when i select to do so, causing me to miss my braking points...
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The recent sound glitch may also be screwing you up because you’re supposed to also hear when the brakes are locking so you can modulate.
 
Barbados246_8
Ive also done the adjustments to yhe brake bias & that too has helped. I guess i was so much in GT6 mode, that i was looking for the same exact experience (bolting on racing brakes ) & as a result got discouraged in my initial attempts. I've even advised a friend who was experiencing the same culture shock of the advice provided & it has delivered positive results...
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I used to play with ABS off in GT6, but it's way to numb and unpredictable in GTS, which allows you to abuse late braking + turning simultaneously. Having played Assetto Corsa, I'd say their interpretation feels far more "crisp" and transparent, if that makes any sense. You could feel more turning grip when you bleed off the brakes on corner entry. In GTS, ABS is almost like some kinda magic stability control.
 

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