GT2 Is better than GT3

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GT2 Is Better Than GT3 In Many Ways!


1. Much More Cars!
2. Better Car Physics.
3. Harder License Tests.
4. Longer Playtime
5. And at last ..........


THE FRICKIN` GAME RUNS FASTER!!!!!!!!

But the grafix are ten tons better in GT3
Thank to some special hardware called Playstation 2
 
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Yes, GT3's limited roster of cars is disappointing. i would've preferred fewer manufacturers but a bigger variety from the included manufacturers. Hopefully this will not be the case with GT4. I think most of the development time in GT3 went into the game engine-remember that GT1 took years to complete, and it had ~166 cars.

Better physics - gotta disagree there. The way the cars drive is smoother and more realistic than ever before in GT3. In GT1 and 2, it was too easy to drift everywhere and win. The only real life driving where you can get ahead by drifting is rallying. GT3 does require adapting your driving style accordingly.

Faster? Not sure about that, either. Load times are appreciably shorter in GT3 (memory card loads and saves, in particular). The sensation of speed is also excellent...I've tried returning to GT2 and it now feels choppy and crude by comparison.

But the graphics are indeed second to none. :D
 
Originally posted by GTuniverse
GT2 Is Better Than GT3 In Many Ways!

1. Much More Cars!
2. Better Car Physics.
3. Harder License Tests.
4. Longer Playtime
5. And at last ..........THE FRICKIN` GAME RUNS FASTER!!!!!!!!
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1. I agree
2. :reallyodd
3. :reallyodd :reallyodd I dont think so on that one.
4. Somewhat true
5. I dont know about that one. GT3 has some pretty good load times.
 
Longer playtime = true.

Longer playtime = more enjoyable...not necessarily. After a certain point it becomes more like work to try and finish some games. I have never finished GT2 (and may never finish GT3) for that reason.
 
Originally posted by risingson77
The sensation of speed is also excellent...I've tried returning to GT2 and it now feels choppy and crude by comparison.
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Just played GT3 for the 1st time last night, and I couldn't get the hang of the differing speed sensation between the two. Given, I only played about 2 races so far :rolleyes:
Gotta get me one 'a them mem cards fer' the PS2....SOMEwhere!
 
Yep...went & plunked down my tax return for it! What's wierd is that all the stores in my area are sold out of the PS2 mem cards right now... :odd:
It's a plot by the EVIL ONE! Limit those pesky PS2 memory card sales in order to forward the cause of the X-BOX!!! :lol:
 
Originally posted by Trailer01
Yep...went & plunked down my tax return for it! What's wierd is that all the stores in my area are sold out of the PS2 mem cards right now... :odd:
It's a plot by the EVIL ONE! Limit those pesky PS2 memory card sales in order to forward the cause of the X-BOX!!! :lol:
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Hrm...they were out of memory cards when I purchased my PS2 as well. :reallyodd I got mine like the next day or so, though.

Enjoy! :thumbsup:
 
can you please tell me how to make an avitar!!i am lost here!!
and as for x box they will go down the drains eventually, you'r job is computers don't mess around with the big boys of videogames, ps2 is having a healthy life and still going, as long that there is quality games, it will never fade.!! :D :eek:
i sawn the x box, and i can not forgive myself uptill now, for touching it's controller, this system is one of the ****ies*t i have ever seen, the games line up are the worst, bill gates is looking towards short term success, eventhough what he is aiming is long term, but the life span of a v.g. system is 5 to 6 years, and by that time p.s.3 or whatever it is will steall the show again.
and regarding the unavalability of p.s.2s and the memory cards recently, i think there will be a price drop that will really make microsoft rethink theire strategies, it's not going to be staggering price drop, but enough to lure in potential v.g. system byers.
sony gambelled with p.s 1 and it paid, now it's up to p.s.2 to prove itself, but 3 million units sold up till now is a vey impresive number, and it says a lot.
again all of the above info is from a personall point of view!!
 
Originally posted by GTuniverse
GT2 Is Better Than GT3 In Many Ways!


1. Much More Cars!
2. Better Car Physics.
3. Harder License Tests.
4. Longer Playtime
5. And at last ..........


THE FRICKIN` GAME RUNS FASTER!!!!!!!!

But the grafix are ten tons better in GT3
Thank to some special hardware called Playstation 2
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Better car physics ?? - What makes you think that ? Give us an example please.
If I remember correctly, then the first build of GT3 (GT 2000) was build on an updated GT2 engine. But the makers felt that they could do better, and the GT2 engine is more or less nonexistent now. (That is also why the game was delayed.)
Game runs faster ?? - NOT! Massive slowdown, popups and parts of tracks missing. Faster ? Did you overclock your PS1 ??

But don't get me wrong here GT2 is still a great game, and I really miss some of the cars and tracks. :(
 
GT2 had more 'soul', more depth. Was it a better game? Well it is certainly a different game, more technical. I'm not sure how anyone can think the GT3 and it's tests are easier. I pretty much walked through GT2 (a much larger game) in 2 months, not playing every day! The same cannot be said of GT3 - especially the S licences!! :mad:

Trailor01 - have you tried to order online?
 
well its not harder, true a **** load of cars. and it is longer. But sorry still not better. And im hoping GT4 will have more cars.
 
GT2 was a great game (and better than GT3 in some respects), but I have to disagree with you on a number of points.

GT3 is all over GT2 from a graphic viewpoint, including speed. Try playing them back to back. Actually, I think GT was better looking than GT2 - GT2 always looked 'grainy' to me.

The GT3 driving model is much better - the reaction time to the controllers is much improved, and there is far better differentiation between front, rear and four wheel drive.

Car response to set up is much clearer and logical.

Also, the addition of the 'force-feedback' through the Logitech wheel has further added to the realism.

GT2 was also full of bugs. Policing of what type of car you ran in events was, aside from horsepower, totally unpoliced. The lap record was displayed on the screen, but never recorded.

However - GT2 had so many cars, it really made the game. Also, it had a far better range of tracks (I miss Red Rock Valley, and, what was that other track that wound through the town in the hills?- plus so many others.) It challenged GT3 for depth.

If GT3 had simply been GT2 with GT3 graphics and physics, I think we'd have all been rapt.
 
I would have to say GT3 is much, much better than GT2, In terms of playing time, they are probably similar except with GT2 you had those nasty manufacturer cups leaving you with cars you didn't want or need. It was said the licence tests are easier, but could it just be your driving improving after playing GT for so long. GT2 has more cars, yes but many you wouldn't want to drive anyway! There is also no way GT2 runs faster. Overall GT3 beats GT2 hands down, I have a feeling though, all gripes will be seen to in GT4, should be rather good :D
 
GT2 does have better sound f/x, though. The engines and the intake/exhaust noise are much more distinct for each car. The chesty yowl of a G2 single-turbo Supra alone will confirm that. :)
 
Trailor01- have you tried to order online?
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I was going to go that route, but I ended up not needing to. The EB Gaming place got a shipment in a short time later, so I just picked one up when I was buying my copy of GT3.
:thumbsup:

To add my two cents to the discussion once again, I would say that while GT3 is probably a better game as far as graphical and interface capabilities, I would still rank it second--though a very close second!--to GT2 in play value and, as Risingson said, 'soul.'

I am quite impressed with 3 visually, though somewhat disappointed on a user level. But only slightly :D
As for the licenses...... :mad: :mad: :mad: :banghead: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
I can understand that the tests were put in the game to allow you to hone your skills, and to give the game 'levels' you had to achieve before you could advance further. However IMHO they pitched the frikkin' tests TOO 🤬 HIGH!!!! I've been tearing my hair out trying to complete that last test in international A on the benighted, accursed, abomination they call the Complex String...I don't even want to think about the time I'll no doubt waste trying to get the S license....





:shakehead <SIGH> I'm done now...
 
Originally posted by risingson77
GT2 does have better sound f/x, though. The engines and the intake/exhaust noise are much more distinct for each car. The chesty yowl of a G2 single-turbo Supra alone will confirm that. :)
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All the cars sound the same in GT2!!
 
Originally posted by Trailer01
To add my two cents to the discussion once again, I would say that while GT3 is probably a better game as far as graphical and interface capabilities, I would still rank it second--though a very close second!--to GT2 in play value and, as Risingson said, 'soul.'
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Would it be fair to say you think GT2 was a better 'car enthusiast's' game? I would be inclined to agree with that.
 
Originally posted by vat_man


Would it be fair to say you think GT2 was a better 'car enthusiast's' game? I would be inclined to agree with that.
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Yes, that would be fair. If you enjoy taking a car and tweaking it up just to run a few races with it--for no other reason than to just play around with it--I'd bet the farm GT2 would hold your interest more. I'd read all the posts about GT3 having fewer cars, but it really is disappointing that there aren't more to choose from.
Truthfully, the part that bummed me out was no more used lots to browse through!! :(
 
I prefer the number of cars, the number of used cars, and older cars, muscle cars in GT2. Also the ability to race mod many of the cars.

GT3 is just eye candy.... not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
Originally posted by Fogelhund
GT3 is just eye candy.... not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Well, that's probably a bit harsh. The updated physics model and the addition of force feedback have added a lot to the game, and I rate the game as one of the most realistic to drive (a great test is to drive the car slowly, say between 60-100kmh, and if it's realistic, it's a good sign, and that's one GT3 passes with flying colours).

It's a lot cleaner and more professional presented than GT2, which it has to be said had more than its fair share of, shall we say, 'undocumented features'.

That said - if GT3 had simply been GT2 with GT3 graphics, with the GT3 driving model (including force feed-back) and some nice new cars thrown in to make us happy, most of us (myself included) would have been rapt.
 
Possibly true. Personally, after playing GT2, and feeling that I had somewhat gotten the hang of it, switching over now to GT3 has been a bit of a shock. As I said, the feeling of speed is totally different in 3 than 2 (most likely more realistic and less arcade-like), the cars' handling characteristics are all different, the reaction times are all different! :nervous:
Not necessarily that these are different in a bad way, but the switch definitely necessitates an adjustment in your play-style, I think.
Just my opinion though :rolleyes:
 
I think the perception of speed is different because of the improved frame rate - I had a similar thing in Grand Prix 2 when I updated my PC. It seems initial slower, simply because you don't have the same size gap between updates (while the car covers 15 metres!)
 
Hm, I think that's a great description of the difference in feeling between the two, yes. :thumbsup: It's almost like the backgrounds slide by in "slow motion" but it's only because the transition phase is better I suppose.

Still feels like I'm driving through gel though :yuck:
 
Both, really. The handling felt stiff & unresponsive, not to mention "stepped" rather than smooth.

The graphics...ugh. They were just too pixelated and the framerate was pure bunk.
 
Heh, true 'dat :D Think I'm still spoiled from cutting my teeth in the GT world on 2 though. 3 will break a few of my controllers, no doubt before all is said and done.
 

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