I haven't played PGR2, nor have I even seen it. As for Forza and GT4, I own both, and I'll say this, if GT4 had the options Forza had, GT4 would be kick ass. I'll admit, Forza has the better options of the two. The only reason I'm still playing GT4 is because I couldn't get used to the controller again after using the DFP for so long. I tried for weeks, trying to get used to the controller, but it was no use. Forza definately needs a DFP. That and less cars. I can't stand so many cars on a track at the same time...