GT4 vs Reality

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MR cars will exhibit lift off oversteer if you aren't careful...

Older MR2's were notorious for it, you'd come around a corner too fast, get off the gas, and WHEE, you're spinning.

Getting on the gas tends to settle them nicely...

Oh, R_Riders, I noticed you have a Z06 listed as a drift car, what did you do to get rid of the ridiculous (and unrealistic) understeer?
 
^ Bounce Side maybe? That helps as well...

Are there drift cars with 180degrees steering? I have a Driving Force wheel, and it can only do 180. I have many drift movies but I never saw one with a 180 wheel..

And GT4 is just for fun, I think..
 
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MR cars will exhibit lift off oversteer if you aren't careful...

Older MR2's were notorious for it, you'd come around a corner too fast, get off the gas, and WHEE, you're spinning.

Getting on the gas tends to settle them nicely...

Oh, R_Riders, I noticed you have a Z06 listed as a drift car, what did you do to get rid of the ridiculous (and unrealistic) understeer?
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To be honest that's actually refering more to my old GT3 car (and same for the 86), although I do have a Z06 I'm messing around to get to be tail happy. I don't think the Z06 understeers, it feels more like 'neutral', then again I use the DFP and I'm rather careful with steering on it, but I wish it was more tail happy, I mean even the people at Road and Track during a comparision handling test knew it was tail happy, it seams the only thing nailed right about this car is the fact for me it dosen't underster when driven the right way, but I want it to be more easy to throw into an oversteer...

I've gotten a few decent drifts with the one I do have in GT4 under a similar power output, but I'm not to a level I feel happy with it drifting wise yet, infact to be dead honest I haven't worked too much on drifting, more on grip driving although I might work more to get cars like the Z06 and Z28 Camaro to be tail happy like no one's business. Right now though that GT4 vette is really more built for a small constest between me and another guy in an attempt to beat his eaqually tuned R34 N1 Skyline.

As for Mad Mprphy, you're right about that too since cars like the NSX-R feel very neutral, infact the NSX-R is one of my all time FAVORITE cars, I like LIKE it a LOT, it's just... WOW... (yeah I know that was stupid but...)...

and same for the M3, be it the normal or CSL version...

infact... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18049741/ < that link leads to something I did that was origionally going to be a gift for someone else, didn't quite turn out that way, still feel good about it, be warned in the descpriton of that, it's sware filled becuase I was in a very CRAPPY mood to be honest about that, depsite how ... good it is (again with the fact being my own worst critic, I can seldom say it's not crap...)...

Some MR's like the SW20 MR 2 (least my GTS with 320+bhp, only so for two reasons, 1 to see how it works, 2 for research for a writing project... *cough*initial*cough*d*cough*fan*cough*fiction*cough...) I and Hommel are very tail happy, same for the lancia Stratos, but still nice fun to drive.

But back to the subject, I haven't been working on drifting so much, more on grip driving although if I can find a tail happy FR, least to my style, I'm sticking to it head on, I've found the G35 model, least the GT-8 to be very tail happy, least with a DS2, and I also liked the Ginetta G4 and I want to drift the CSL more with the DFP since I can do it okay with the DS2, same with the Z06 as I had gotten it sideways to a decent extent as shown with this ...



I have more but I felt hestant to upload them, I may do so though.

That's about it. I've said it before, I just HOPE so baddly they fix this problem in GT5, or least give us a chance to adjust some crap to our own liking, I just hope they do so...

Till later.

EDIT: Wrong photo... fixed that now.
 
I could drift a lot of cars with the DS2 a lot easier than the DFP, I used to drift a Ruf RGT on N2/N1 tires around the Nurburgring with the DS2...fast thumbs help a lot.

The Vette, I guess I am just totally pushing the front tires too hard, but the way it pushes when I get On the throttle just seems wrong for a car that is so balanced.

Tail Happy? It was tail happy in GT3...I spent most of my races sideways in my 800 Hp Z06 and had fun doing it...now, the damn thing just fights getting sideways...guess I should try grip driving it more, as it doesn't seem to react to the feinting I do very well.
 
Back to the topic at hand, drifting in GT4 is nothing like drifting in real life for 3 prime reasons. 1. You are moving in real life, and unless you buy something even more advanced than ther Subaru GT4 simluators, you're not moving whilst playing GT4. 2. Every single car has different steering feel, different brake feedback and modulationg, etc. Despite how good the DFP is, it comes no where near simulating all of these different cars handling tendencies. 3. GT4 has a complex physics engine. Real life has a somewhat more (infinitely more) complex physics engine called inertia, gravity and the idea that an object in motion tends to stay in motion etc. etc. As a bonus 4th knock against this theory is the patented "Cajones Meter" that measures insanity and self preservation. For example, the RUF CTR Yellowbird lap of the 'Ring replay with all of the drifting is great, but very few people are stupid enough to drive like that in real life, much less so on the 'Ring or similar tracks, even if it is the way to get best lap times out of old RWD Porsches. These days, race drivers use aerodynamics and downforce so they don't have to drive like that. And if you want to argue that they raced like that back in the day, well, alot of people died racing back then aswell. Drifting as a hole is alot different then driving a pre 1993 Porshe at the 'Ring, as it's considerably safer. Drift cars are made to drift, and normal cars are not, with a few exceptions. For example, the story of the rolling of the SUV whilst drifting, while very easy to do in real life, could not be done in GT4 because you can't flip cars.
Many people do say that GT4 and similar games such as Enthusia and Forza can teach you limited advanced driving skills, and this is also, in a sense, untrue aswell, as there are simply too many irregularities in real life that are not factored into GT4 (like road temperature or wetness).
 

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