GT4's International Influence

[JohnBM01]

Polyphony Digital has really outdone themselves with GT4. Their effort to include a multitude of different environments make the game very enjoyable no matter where in the world you are. Who knows? Maybe you can rip up New York with your American muscle, rule Hong Kong with your JGTC superweapons, own Nurburgring with your German exotics and DTM racers, and maybe even say "bonjour" to France.

GTPlanet, do you think GT4 will offer a more educational look at the world? I mean, think of the Italian and German influence in the game. You get to race in France, if not Le Mans (Magny-Cours would be a nice French challenge). And of course, if you'd rather stick to Americana, New York has you covered. So, what do you think about the international influence of this game? I think it will be sensational. If six continents can be represented (unless you want a rally race in Antartica), then that's cool. I'm fine with a rally in Africa or maybe a race at Kyliami (or is the South African track still open?). Rio de Janerio's road course or the really compact Brasilia circuit would also make a great racing candidate. I think GT4 will have people see the world in more ways than they could in Project Gotham Racing 2 or any of the past GT games. So what do you think about the international influence offered for GT4?

 

[Mr P510]

Lets hope Australia gets a location at least. That would help complete that international feel.

 

[Cosmic]

Originally posted by Mr P510
Lets hope Australia gets a location at least. That would help complete that international feel.

Agree.

 

[Rockybalboa2k5]

need some canadian tracks

 

[livemusic]

A circuit here in Brazil would be great

Forza is gonna have that Rio´s street circuit, and for wut the "cariocas"( people from Rio) r saying, its very accurate to the city. Even that "buteco"(bar) on a corner near the tunnel is really there. Very nicely done.

Ps.: Nice portuguese class huh?

 

[Z32]

adelaide would be awesome

the cars already cover a great variety from all over the world. tuner village might be a bit japan biased as far as non factory tuning goes. not sure what PD has is mind but i dont think we'll see many american tuners like aem or jackson racing but we did see the dc sports race mod for the integra in gt2 however. dont know much about european tuners but i just hope theres a fair mix.

 

[Soman]

Racing in different world parts is interesting but its nothing in the sence to show the culture but just tracks, to show the different nations influences then there is where historical cars comes ect

 

[SkylineObsession]

If they get any Australian track is most obviously HAS to be Mount Panorama. If they put something like Phillip Island in and no other Aussie tracks i'm gonna scream!

 

[Eagle]

I find most of the Australian circuits pretty boring actually, including the GP tracks. Bathurst is certainly the jewel in the crown, that's about the only track I regularly enjoy watching racing on. Someone a while back posted like 4 V8 circuits and I just choked.

The international influence of the game will be greatly determined by the range of tracks available, the representation of real world locations, and the cars with which to race. Being able to race the same Peugoet, Ford or Mitsubishi you drive every day brings a lot of people, if only for novelty value; but those are the people who occasionally become hooked and join our ranks. Will these tracks and cars represent the culture and society behind these countries? I seriously doubt it - it's impossible to represent something so complex as a culture in something as simple and objective as a car or circuit.

The History mode or whatever that thing will be is your best bet for culture, I'm hoping for something decent.

 

[ALPHA]

I think the irony of creating a game for mass markets is you have to please everyone.

In GT4 the intro and game features on America with the Grand Canyon and New York, and also pleases Europe, the irony is that America doesn't get GT4 with its American influence, pity.

 

[cryothic]

What about one circuit from almost every country in the world (the ones that have (active) circuits ofcourse )

And every circuit has it's own presentation-video to show you some locations of the country

(a bit over the top, but it would be kind of educational )

 

[Jugend]

The location of the tracks isnt that important to me but I´d be more then happy if PD cut down on the japanese cars in favour for other non-japanese manufacturers, making it more international.

 

[GTXLR]

A japenese company with japenese devleopers, with many japanese car manufacturer high level of support (recognizing the sales potential), is always going to feature more japenese cars, than other international marques.

 

[Jugend]

^Sherlock Holmes, I assume?

Time for The GP of Monaco now..

 

[Johnny]

I hope there is a Brazilian track (Interlagos or Jacarepaguá) , or even one brazilian road car / racecar.

I mean, Brazil is a very important country on the motorsport world. I think we have drivers on every single competition in the world! =]

Anyway, It's almost impossible to think on a race without drivers from Italy, a Germany, USA, UK and Brazil. It's like mandatory =]

 

[code_kev]

do you think GT4 will offer a more educational look at the world?

john, wtf are you on about?

Whats with the sudden influx of boring threads?

 

[JohnBM01]

I can't give it to you now, but there is a British website featuring tracks of the world, including some old circuits and old configurations. So there are several courses around the world.

But I agree with many of you. And speaking of Canada, here is a lovely track that would be a great GT course: Le Circuit Mont-Tremblant. I'm not really a Rolex Sportscar fan, but that track is very sweet. It would really do good for Canadian race fans. Some may be into Mosport or Toronto better, though. Vancouver is a little too tight for a race track, so I decided I'd count that out even though I don't hate the track or the city.

Brazil's brought us many racers. There are the Fitipaldi family of racers, Rubens Barichello for Ferrari, and the late, great Aryton Senna among others. Brazil does need to be represented, and if you're on the presence of "historically significant," hope and pray to the high heavens that you'll get a Brazlian course, even if it's a go-kart track.

Australia is a little different. I don't know. The courses don't seem to be too challenging except for Adelaide, Bathurst, and maybe even Surfer's Paradise. Some others like Phillip Island and Sandown seem more like speedy circuits than the twisty, challenging ones of Europe. But I know one thing. If Canberra's going to be put into GT4, I'll protest. Anyone who made it to the "Power Racing Tier" in "Pro Race Driver" and raced Canberra with the V8 Supercars know my pain.

 

[gt3freak_2001]

For Australia I would rather see Rally type tracks as our country has some great ralling countryside. I agree some of the Aussie tracks used in the V8's are kinda boring but Bathurst and Adelaide are the best, I should know about Adelaide having gone there every year and seeing it up close and personal. Surfers Paradise is also a nice track with its tighte corners and crazy double S bend.

 

[Eagle]

The old Adelaide is better than the cut down version.

Give us the Bunning's special stage.

 

[Johnny]

Just for you to get an idea, a list of Brazilian drivers around the world:

- André Azevedo - Dacar Rally
- Bruno Junqueira - CART / Indy 500
- Crisitiano da Matta - F-1
- Felipe Massa - F-1
- Hélio Castro Neves - IRL
- Vitor Meira - IRL
- Fellipe Giaffone - IRL
- Klever Kolberg/Lourival Roldan - Dacar Rally
- Mário Haberfeld - CART
- Rubens Barrichello - F-1
- Tarso Marques - CART
- Tony Kanaan - F1
- Antônio Pizzonia - F-1 Test Driver
- Luciano Burti - F-1 Test Driver
- Ricardo Zonta - F-1 Test Driver

- Allam Khodair - European Fórmula 3000
- Átila Abreu - German F-BMW
- Augusto Farfus Santos Jr. - ETCC
- Danilo Dirani - British F-3
- Enrique Bernoldi - F- Super Nissan
- Jaime Melo Júnior - Le Mans Series (LM GT)
- Lucas Di Grassi - British F-3
- Marcello Thomaz - Italian/European F-Renault
- Marcos Vilhena - British F-BMW
- Nelson Ângelo Piquet - British F-3
- Patrick Rocha - European F-Renault
- Roberto Streit - European Fórmula 3
- Rodrigo Ribeiro - Fórmula 3000 Internacional
- Rodrigo Sperafico - F- Super Nissan
- Rubem Carrapatoso - British F-Renault
- Thomas Erdos - Daytona 24 Hours/FIA GT

- Alexandre Sperafico - CART
- Christian Fittipaldi - Daytona 24 Hours/NASCAR
- Fernando Dias Ribeiro - Fórmula Russell
- Gustavo Sondermann - Winter Festival/F-Renault
- Leonardo Maia - Infiniti Pro Series
- Marcos Gomes - F-Renault -
- Oswaldo Negri Jr. - Grand American
- Pierre Kleinubing - North-American Touring Cars
- Renato Jader David - F-Renault
- Thiago Medeiros - Infiniti Pro Series
- Victor Ramos - F-Dodge-Southern/National

- Alberto Valério - F-3 Sul-americana
- Alexandre "Xandinho" Negrão - F-3 Sul-americana
- Alexandre Foizer - F-3 Sul-americana
- Ana Beatriz Figueiredo - F-3 Sul-americana
- Carlos Iaconelli - F-3 Sul-americana
- Fábio Casagrande - F-3 Sul-americana
- Gustavo Foizer - F-3 Sul-americana
- Henrique Favoretto - F-3 Sul-americana
- Jaime Câmara Neto - F-3 Sul-americana
- João Barion - F-3 Sul-americana
- José "Zeca" Cardoso - F-3 Sul-americana
- Lucas Schomwambach - F-3 Sul-americana
- Renan Pizzi - F-3 Sul-americana "Light"
- Salomão Soares - F-3 Sul-americana
- Vinícius Canhedo - F-3 Sul-americana "Light"

- André Nicastro - Fórmula Honda
- Fábio Carbone - Japanese F-3
- João Paulo de Oliveira - Japanese F-3
- Max Wilson - V8 Supercars



And i don't think this list is complete. Anyway, i'm not saying all of them are the best but they are at least good drivers

Plus you can't forget people like

- Ayrton Senna
- Nelson Piquet
- Chico Landi
- Emerson Fittipaldi
- Wilson Fittipaldi
- Gil de Ferran
- Roberto Moreno - Although problems in all his career, still is considered a fantastic driver. I'm glad i had the chance to meet him. Great person and great driver.

As for families, you mentioned the Fittipaldi's. These days they don't do nothing for the sport, with the exception being Christian Fittipaldi driving in USA, and Wilsinho Fittipaldi is Technical Director of WB Motorsport (Brazilian V8 Stock Car Team).

 

[Jay]

Originally posted by Eagle
The old Adelaide is better than the cut down version.

Not wrong, I agree with you there.

 

[JohnBM01]

I'll admit. The past few days and such, I've found much more respect for Australia's motorsports offerings. Like I heard of David Brabham, Craig Lowndes, and one of the ones I most recognize- Peter Brock. And let's not forget Mark Webber, Steven Richards, Jason Bright, and Mark Skaife. Any racing LADIES of Australia, does anyone know?

As far as Brazil goes, Brazil is surely a great contributor of motorsport. It would be a shame to neglect Brazil when talking about history, much less racing history. I don't know any Brazlian car companies, but surely there have been racers in rally, saloon car, and open-wheel from Brazil. I think if street courses were to be planned, definitely Rio de Janerio or maybe even Sao Paulo. As a person experienced with fashion, Sao Paulo is basically the fashion capital of Brazil.

That's one thing I enjoy about talking with people from different nations. You begin to appreciate that this is a big world, chock full of many nations and nationalities. Any more contributions to this topic?

 

[Scaff]

Originally posted by JohnBM01
I can't give it to you now, but there is a British website featuring tracks of the world, including some old circuits and old configurations. So there are several courses around the world.

John, is this the site you mean.

http://www.racingcircuits.net/

 

[Methadonmann]

Originally posted by Rockybalboa2k5
need some canadian tracks

Do you have permanent race tracks in Canada? Is Mosport a canadian track? This interests me a lot.

I only know about the city-circuits for the Champ-Car-Series.

 

[SkylineObsession]

Don't be forgetting Marcos Ambrose there John. He's basically the guy who has bought Ford back into the winning circle.

 

[livemusic]

Originally posted by JohnBM01
I don't know any Brazlian car companies, but surely there have been racers in rally, saloon car, and open-wheel from Brazil.

We don´t have any car companies, not anymore(R.I.P. Gurgel )

I think Johnny was reffering to cars that are common here, such as Golf, Ka, Clio, Astra, Bettle, 206... and we already have that in GT.

Or maybe he meant brazilian race cars, from our stock car and stock light series or Clio cup, DTM pick-up...if thats the case then I don´t see it happening

But we sure could have a brazilian track in GT

 

[Eagle]

You all managed to overlook Sir Jack Brabham, arguably the most successful Australian driver ever and the only person to have won a F1 world championship in a car he built and prepared himself if memory serves.

No one mention Alan Jones. Please.

 

[JohnBM01]

As I have said, I know only so much about racing. Name me an up and coming racing star from Thailand. Well, as I've said, I know only so much. When I make a post, I go by what I know and what I know best. If I don't know anything, I'm not going to pretend to be someone I'm not. I mean, I can't pretend that I think Richard Petty and Cale Yarbrough are much better than Michael Schumacher and Allan McNish (that would question my love of road racing, of course). So, I think it's always a welcome experience to learn more about racing outside of America. The leauge I'm into recently is the JGTC. I've heard of Hideo Fukuyama, Keiichi Tsuchiya before retirement, Juichi Wakisaka, and others I can't mention.

But my apologies for disregarding some of the Australian legends. But that's okay. You never know TOO much about anything, much less auto racing. So I'm glad to learn a little more about the racing world.

In terms of international racing, I wonder what that Malaysian team that want to eye Le Mans that raced the JGTC some 1 or 2 years ago. Japan is possibly the most dominant motorsports country in Asia, so I hope China, Korea, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, and stuff get represented and challenge Japan. Any more?

 

[Eagle]

I meant no disrespect, I just found it odd even the Australians overlooked him, he's the first person to shoot to mind for me at least.

 

[Johnny]

Originally posted by FatAssBR
We don´t have any car companies, not anymore(R.I.P. Gurgel )

I think Johnny was reffering to cars that are common here, such as Golf, Ka, Clio, Astra, Bettle, 206... and we already have that in GT.

Or maybe he meant brazilian race cars, from our stock car and stock light series or Clio cup, DTM pick-up...if thats the case then I don´t see it happening

But we sure could have a brazilian track in GT

You are forgetting full brazilian companies like Edra and Lobini that are going to release their small sport cars ( the GT from Edra and H1 from Lobini )

Anyway, i think the best way to represent our country would be:

- The Lobini H1
- A Brazilian V8 Stock Car (Body is based on Chevy Astra Sedan)
- A Brazilian racetrack

Although i will not complain if none of this come in the final game. I'll spent endless hours on Nurburgring