GT5 destroying Blu-ray laser?

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Hi,

This is the second time this problem has started. It starts out gently with the PS3 being unable to find the GT5 cd, then it becomes harder and harder for it to find it and in the end the PS3 is unable to find any blu-ray cd and the blu-ray laser is finished and have to be relpaced. I use a 60GB phat PS3, 4 years old.

Anyone know if there's something that can be done to make it work again or to prevent it from break?
 
I had same thing happen to my 60gb so i bought the 320gb to spare my 60gb's lens, although it has a new lens fitted and has no issues with any other games i play.. There are a few players with 60gb claiming the same thing even to the point of the lens failing to read any disc. I just think the lens in the 60gb (KES 400 A) can't handle GT5.
 
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Seems so. When it broke last time there were no problems with PS2 games, but all blu-ray discs were not found. Just can't afford a new PS3.
 
I know absolutely nothing about how the Blu-ray laser works... but I know regular old DVD lasers can sometimes just get misaligned and stop working. All it takes is the turn of a screw to realign it again. It happened to my stereo and also my Gamecube, I managed to fix them both myself. Perhaps the same would work here? If you're brave enough to try opening it that is... search the Gamecube laser alignment issue and you'll probably find a bunch of tutorials.
 
My bro had that wiht CoD, a friend with Bat:Dark Knight BR etc.. its' not GT5, it's the PS3 laser that sucks.
 
For what it's worth I would be incredibly surprised if GT5, more than other games, wore out the laser... Perhaps it has a ton of data that needs to be read over and over again, but shouldn't a 1080p 3d blu-ray as well, considering the amount of data the PS3 has to read?

Also, the old "phat" PS3s are likely reaching the end of their lives as it is... YLOD abound, lasers going out (how long was it before the PS2s started losing their traditional lasers?). Fortunately there are some things you can do to prevent problems, like replacing thermal paste on the CPU/GPU (since it dries out over time), or replacing the Blu-ray laser when you start getting read problems (also there are a lot of reports of needing to keep the PS3 vertical to keep the laser reading).

I doubt that gigabyte per gigabyte of data being read between GT5 and any other game/movie, the source doesn't matter, just the amount of data being provided to the PS3. I guess maybe GT5 requires more data usage, but that's why there's a harddrive that it constantly downloads to and reads off of it again.
 
The first laser worked find for 4 years until GT5... now I have had another outcome of disc reading after just 1 month after the new one was put in and the PS3 got cleaned on the inside at the same time. Idk if I am the only one who thinks this is suspicious? GT5 is the only game I have played since it was replaced ...
 
My launch day 60gig had the same problem, and this was back in the days of CoD4, I stripped the concole down and cleaned the laser with a cue tip and some camera lens cleaner. This worked 5-6 times and then it couldn't be repaired anymore. It was only Blu Ray it wouldn't read, DVD discs were fine, but I didn't buy my PS3 to play PS2 games, so bought a new 80gig that is still going strong.
 
It's sort of obvious the older PS3's will have issues, mostly due to them being much older than a slim.

Also depends on how much you play your PS3. If you play it a lot, that's plenty of stress on the laser, parts, etc. If you play rarely, then less stress on everything.

My slim still works well (bought it about 5 months ago), but BE AWARE, Black Ops has been killing/working on killing PS3's lately, especially the laser (so as I've heard).

I suggest keeping your phat PS3 and buy a new PS3 though, or buy a couple Blu-Ray lasers incase the laser on your phat goes out.
 
It's nothing to do with Black Ops or GT5 or any other game for that matter. Black Ops and GT are both highly addictive games, the sort that you'll start playing and the next thing you know, it's 4am! This sort of "abuse" will eventually wear out any laser in any system, nothing lasts forever.
 
bombe32
Hi,

This is the second time this problem has started. It starts out gently with the PS3 being unable to find the GT5 cd, then it becomes harder and harder for it to find it and in the end the PS3 is unable to find any blu-ray cd and the blu-ray laser is finished and have to be relpaced. I use a 60GB phat PS3, 4 years old.

Anyone know if there's something that can be done to make it work again or to prevent it from break?
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Mine is 4 yrs old and I have had the laser replaced twice. Good thing it was under extended warranty so it didn't cost anything.
You keep hearing rumors that it is caused by a certain game but it really is just wear and inferior parts.

There really isn't much you can do to protect it. I know with the old PS2 I use to re-align the cd laser on my own but with these I'm not sure.
 
KyleR
It's nothing to do with Black Ops or GT5 or any other game for that matter. Black Ops and GT are both highly addictive games, the sort that you'll start playing and the next thing you know, it's 4am! This sort of "abuse" will eventually wear out any laser in any system, nothing lasts forever.
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But 4 years of useage won't wear it down? I played GRID much more than I do GT5, yet I had no problems then.

I am currently considering buying a new PS3, only 2 to choose from, 160GB and 320GB slims. Won't replace the 60GB until it's uncapable of playing any games, as it is better IMO AND I feel I am wasting money if I own 2 PS3s that works :indiff:
 
I find it very suspicious that it is the older PS3 particularly the 60gb's which are suffering. Afterall the GT5 data is for the PS3 and the 60gb lens reads PS3 data so why ONLY the original PS3's ? A slims lens only reads the same data but does not suffer ??
But i do know 60gb's suffer at high end graphics and intensive games like COD online . I would not have thought GT5 compares to COD but COD causes YLOD not lens failure .. Odd that those reporting problems with 60 gb's are saying lens failure not YLOD
Again my advice is get a new PS3 i did and i am safe in the comfort my 60gb has never had YLOD and is now stored away for keep's sake.
 
My 60 gig is fine. I easily put 40 hours a week, so far for it's four year or so life cycle. I like having the memorycard slots.
 
Discs can't ruin lasers. They don't have any physical contact. Just try and keep your console clean... You must've had some bad lasers. That's the only explaination.
 
I know they don't have any contact, but I am also thinking that something else is broken and not the lens, since it happens again after only 1 month. Funny thing is that GT5 is the only game that has been played before the breakdowns of these lenses.
 
My 60 gig is fine. I easily put 40 hours a week, so far for it's four year or so life cycle. I like having the memorycard slots.
 
Have you try using the ps3 recovery menu to try to restore it, people have try it before and it work try it before you have someone fix it, make sure you back up your system file if you gonna do the recovery menu if you don't you will lose all your game save...


This is what the PlayStation Forum says:
1. Turn off Playstation®3.
2. Hold the power button down; the system will turn on and turn off once again.
3. Once the System has been shutdown, re-press you finger until you hear 2 consecutive beeps
4. When you hear the 2 beeps take finger off power button.
5. You will be prompted to plug in your controller via USB and then hit the PS button
6. The Recovery menu will pop up.

The current Recovery Menu supports:
• Restart System: Restarts the PLAYSTATION®3 System.
• Restore Default Settings: Reset all system settings back to default.
• Restore File System: Checks for corrupt/missing system files.
• Rebuild Database: Rebuilds the OS for the PLAYSTATION®3.
• Restore PS3 System: Fresh restore; Deletes everything and starts from Scratch.
• System Update: Update the PLAYSTATION®3 System
 
Very misleading thread title. It is not GT5 that is destroying anything. GT5 just happens to be the game you were playing when your PS3 broke. If GT5 was destroying consoles then with 6 million copies out there you would be hearing tens of thousands of failed consoles.

It's like my car breaking down and me saying Shell gasoline destroys cars because that's what my car was running on when it broke.

The one has nothing what so ever to do with the other.
 
The "launch" 60GBs are notorious for YLOD. Later PS3s are more durable.

If you want to be as safe as possible, pre-install everything you can from the GT5 disc, to take some strain off the laser, ventilate your PS3 properly (I use an electric fan every time I take more than an hour to play) and make sure the cooling vents are free of dust and grit.
 
im using a 60gb, my laser doesnt read any disc, i have to go into a demo then hit the ps button and alas the disc symbol is there, its been like that over a year now
 
bombe32
But 4 years of useage won't wear it down? I played GRID much more than I do GT5, yet I had no problems then.

I am currently considering buying a new PS3, only 2 to choose from, 160GB and 320GB slims. Won't replace the 60GB until it's uncapable of playing any games, as it is better IMO AND I feel I am wasting money if I own 2 PS3s that works :indiff:
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It's just time. I don't know if for some reason yours lasted a bit longer than most others, or if it's because you haven't played as much, atleast, as many 10, 12, 14 or even 16 hour long sessions that some people accomplish.
 
GT5 destroyed your laser? Seriously man, we know the game isn't perfect but trying to convince us it destroyed your laser.

Odds on some complaining that GT5 broke their TV soon?
 
I'm still rocking with an original 40Gigger, lol beat that!

oh and here's my total hrs for BFBC2:
http://www.bfbc2.eu/en/ps3/stats/dan08pires

take care of your stuff and you should be fine, I keep my console away form the other electronics, well ventilated to not heat up, not that it ever does even after hours of play.
 
DaN-PwN
I'm still rocking with an original 40Gigger, lol beat that!

oh and here's my total hrs for BFBC2:
http://www.bfbc2.eu/en/ps3/stats/dan08pires

take care of your stuff and you should be fine, I keep my console away form the other electronics, well ventilated to not heat up, not that it ever does even after hours of play.
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LOL. I wish we could get time played AND miles driven in GT. Perhaps Im missing it.
 
niky
The "launch" 60GBs are notorious for YLOD. Later PS3s are more durable.
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Not really, it's just the fact, that they are much older than new slims.
Was the same with X360 as well.
1st model a.k.a. Xenon was awful. Then M$ released Zephyr and all thought it's much better etc, 3 - 4 months later many people started getting RRODs.
Same story with Falcon, Jasper and even new Vejle (slim X360). New ones don't have that high failure rate just because they are newer, not because they much better.

That goes for PS3 as well, except fact that it's a Sony after all, so a lifetime for PS3 usually longer. But even tho new slim PS3 are not that hot, they still using same lead-free solder there, it has very good chances to get YLOD as well, since lead-free solder maybe safe, "green" etc, but it's actually horrible and shouldn't be used, imo.
 
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Huhu starts slowly and gets worse, not with my launch day fatty!! Always runnin smoothe nearly no freezin... Or what else i heard from friends, so one day i am still happilly burning rubber, the next day she wouldnt read any dvd's the music cd's still work.
 
claythrow
How do you "preinstall" everything you can from the disc?
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It'll give you the option of installing commonly used and large files to the hard drive when you first run it.

TJ31
Not really, it's just the fact, that they are much older than new slims.
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Don't quote me on this, because I can't find the sources, and it was a long time ago, but anecdotal evidence from failures in the past, when the consoles were newer, pointed to more problems with the launch 60 GB model compared to the lower models. If you've a 60GB Launch system that's survived till now, then odds are a game that utilizes so much power and tends to be left on for such long periods of time will eventually do it in.

Lead-free solder... meh... what are you going to do? That's life. First we can't have water pipes that last forever, then we can't have paint that lasts forever... then we can't even have electronics, which no one is going to lick or drink from...
 

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