GT5 Dirty Racing

[MOPARbarrett5]

Something that is under rated in GT5 is dirty racing. From NSACARs to hack cars it is a fun part of the game!

 

[Aquarelle]

Okay?

Where's the discussion value here? there are threads on both Dirty Nascar and Hacking already..

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Yes but this thread is for it to become considered a true event not just a few people running it a day sort of thing

 

[Aquarelle]

Some people hold higher racing standards than bumper cars.

 

[Nismo34]

Yes but this thread is for it to become considered a true event not just a few people running it a day sort of thing

Uhh... What?

 

[ItsAllAboutWins]

Someone has obviously had to much green beer. Remember, moderation is key. Learn it then live by it.

 

[Hayden]

Okay?

Where's the discussion value here? there are threads on both Dirty Nascar and Hacking already..

This is a thread about dirty racing on the whole. There's actually quite a lot that could be discussed besides dirty NASCAR and hacking. People could talk about the different ways to run open dirty racing, they could chat about good PP values for dirty shuffle, have discussions about tracks...

Some people hold higher racing standards than bumper cars.

Try it before you hate it. From a statement like that, i assume you run in a league. I'd seriously suggest giving it a run after a serious league race with the guys as as a cool down session. If, after 5 laps of 500pp dirty shuffle on Daytona with a bunch of people you get along with, you still don't like it, come back and tell us how stupid dirty racing is.

See, there's stuff to discuss here, although an exact duplicate thread probably exists somewhere.

 

[Aquarelle]

This is a thread about dirty racing on the whole. There's actually quite a lot that could be discussed besides dirty NASCAR and hacking. People could talk about the different ways to run open dirty racing, they could chat about good PP values for dirty shuffle, have discussions about tracks...

I see where you're coming from, however there are already threads on this, full of people who are already into this scene and will likely be happy to have more join them.

I don't think it warranted another, especially since the OP didn't really give much to discuss. All he did was state that he wishes it was more popular..

Try it before you hate it. From a statement like that, i assume you run in a league. I'd seriously suggest giving it a run after a serious league race with the guys as as a cool down session. If, after 5 laps of 500pp dirty shuffle on Daytona with a bunch of people you get along with, you still don't like it, come back and tell us how stupid dirty racing is.

See, there's stuff to discuss here, although an exact duplicate thread probably exists somewhere.

I don't see the appeal in driving dirty, I've done it a few times actually so it's far from a case of "Try it before you hate it"

I didn't find it enjoyable, at all. I mean I do find the odd tap to the rear quarters fun on low grade tyres in a rear wheel car because it's a frantic moment that breaks me out of driving in a sort of zenn state.

But being smashed into a wall on a straight? being P.I.T maneuvered? spending every waking moment taking evasive action and constantly expecting to be rear ended under braking?

None of that seems fun to me personally.

 

[Felix]

Some people hold higher racing standards than bumper cars.

Could not have put it better myself good sir!

I just wish these type of "drivers" learnt to understand that a room titled "clean racing" did not give them a free card to do as they bloody please! I personally feel these types of room (dirty racing) are more down to pot luck, rather than out and out talent or skill.

 

[Aquarelle]

Could not have put it better myself good sir!

I just wish these type of "drivers" learnt to understand that a room titled "clean racing" did not give them a free card to do as they bloody please! I personally feel these types of room (dirty racing) are more down to pot luck, rather than out and out talent or skill.

(Keep in mind this topic seems more around rooms that are created with the intention of being a dirty room, not people joining clean rooms and ruining peoples fun. At least that's how I'm interpreting it)

I feel there's a certain skill to handling collisions.

A few months ago I made a thread in immense frustration after a fairly long race being ended for me after being intentionally rammed off the road because someone didn't like the fact I was beating them. In that thread I asked for advice for dealing with people 'driving dirty' and spent a great deal of time in simulated situations of people ramming me off the road by getting a friend of mine to be the offending driver.

From that experience I've learnt how to successfully deal with collisions mid corner and how to get out of P.I.T maneuvers without losing too much time.

However a style of driving solely centred around that sort of thing..? no.. it's not for me as I don't see the enjoyment there.

As you say it seems more pot luck as to who the person behind you decides to use as a brake pad under hard braking.
From my experience with this... "sport" I discovered there's a certain art to predicting your opponent and choosing your position in the pack for the best overall finish.. but limiting yourself to be in a more strategic position so you're less likely to get rammed..?

It's not something for a man like me that prefers a more grown up form of driving to a playground match of fistycuffs.

If that offends anyone, I'm sorry but it's quite simply how I feel on the subject. Can't please everyone

 

[GranTurismo916]

I like dirty racing. Because usually they're the only rooms when people are actually doing the right thing, and it's fun.

 

[Guardian]

Some people hold higher racing standards than bumper cars.

Some people are also sick of the anal, clinical atmosphere you get in most 'serious' or 'real' racing lobbies. Those people try out a casual, no-rules dirty lobby and have a nice time crashing around a simple track, having fun with their friends.

 

[bs13]

I've been racing dirty Nascar for almost 2 years now and it's a blast. I enjoy laughing and hearing others laugh while having a good time. It's a great stress reliever if you have the correct mindset.

It's a shame that PD doesn't embrace drifting, drag and dirty racing. There is definitely a loyal following for these types or racing that PD is choosing to ignore.

 

[Aquarelle]

Some people are also sick of the anal, clinical atmosphere you get in most 'serious' or 'real' racing lobbies. Those people try out a casual, no-rules dirty lobby and have a nice time crashing around a simple track, having fun with their friends.

Good for them, but I don't personally see how smashing people off the track is "fun".

Or rather, I can see how someone can find that fun but I can't see how the person getting smashed off can find it fun.

Again, it's a matter of taste. I use drifting to unwind when I get sick of "Serious" or "real" lobbies or tournaments, some people might not see the appeal in that but at least it doesn't harm others.

Dirty racing does harm others in my eyes since getting punted into a sand trap or spun out mid corner isn't my idea of a good time..

 

[Guardian]

^The only negative aspect of dirty racing, in your opinion, is that getting punted off the track isn't fun; but surely if you join a lobby clearly titled 'Dirty NASCAR (for e.g), then surely you expect it to be a contact sport(?)

 

[Aquarelle]

^The only negative aspect of dirty racing, in your opinion, is that getting punted off the track isn't fun; but surely if you join a lobby clearly titled 'Dirty NASCAR (for e.g), then surely you expect it to be a contact sport(?)

I don't recall saying anything along those lines.


As in, I never said it was unexpected. Rather that I don't see the appeal.

 

[bs13]

Good for them, but I don't personally see how smashing people off the track is "fun".

Or rather, I can see how someone can find that fun but I can't see how the person getting smashed off can find it fun.

Again, it's a matter of taste. I use drifting to unwind when I get sick of "Serious" or "real" lobbies or tournaments, some people might not see the appeal in that but at least it doesn't harm others.

Dirty racing does harm others in my eyes since getting punted into a sand trap or spun out mid corner isn't my idea of a good time..

This topic is about dirty racing lobbies that are properly labeled. People know beforehand what they are getting into by reading the lobby description. This means you can't complain about getting wrecked when the room clearly states that it is a dirty room.

Like I've stated before. I've been dirty racing for almost 2 years and never once have I joined a clean room with the intent of wrecking anyone. Most of my friends will tell you that the reason they dirty race is because of the complaints they receive in clean rooms. The complaints from clean rooms my friends have received vary from them winning races, to accidentally rubbing fenders when 3 wide at the finish at Daytona. One guy got yelled at because he "slingshot" past a car on Daytona lol. We dirty race because it's a more relaxed environment with less stress involved.

 

[Aquarelle]

This topic is about dirty racing lobbies that are properly labeled. People know beforehand what they are getting into by reading the lobby description. This means you can't complain about getting wrecked when the room clearly states that it is a dirty room.

I'm well aware. I was referring to knowingly joining a dirty lobby, always have been.

Dirty drivers joining people intending to keep it clean is a whole different topic for a whole different thread 👍

Like I've stated before. I've been dirty racing for almost 2 years and never once have I joined a clean room with the intent of wrecking anyone. Most of my friends will tell you that the reason they dirty race is because of the complaints they receive in clean rooms. The complaints from clean rooms my friends have received vary from them winning races, to accidentally rubbing fenders when 3 wide at the finish at Daytona. One guy got yelled at because he "slingshot" past a car on Daytona lol. We dirty race because it's a more relaxed environment with less stress involved.

Perhaps I've just been in extreme rooms then, but every dirty lobby I joined during my experiment with them was very extreme and the main focus was the behaviour I've listed in previous posts.

 

[bs13]

The dirty Nascar rooms I run in have a few rules. No going backwards, no brake checking, no blocking the track on purpose and keep on the lead lap. I would also prefer only wrecking the lead pack so everyone in the back works together to get up front. In other words go forward and try to win the race.

There are jerks however that like to wreck at the start and in the back of the pack. I just keep these people in mind and wreck them when I get a chance. For me and some of my friends the goal is still winning the race. Heck, I even enjoy a top 5 most of the time.

With that said I do have a few really crazy and dirty friends. They will hammer you all race, lawn dart the pack and pit you every chance they get. I keep them around because they keep me on my toes.

P.S. I'm not trying to convince anyone to dirty race. We all have are vices and dirty racing is my vice. I don't get drifting and don't drag race but if people enjoy it then I say live and let live .

 

[Vagabond]

Reading this thread was a little like I should imagine it would be to intentionally squirt lemon juice in my eyes. Bravo! I feel a little wiser and a little dumber all in one.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

That is the point of this thread, to appreciate dirty racing and consider it legitimate racing not call it bumper cars

not green beer but moderation is also needed in any type or GT5 racing so you don't get "Gran Turismo finger"

My league is Mopar. I have threads up on Mopar. My team does any type of dirty racing.

 

[Nismo34]

That is the point of this thread, to appreciate dirty racing and consider it legitimate racing not call it bumper cars

not green beer but moderation is also needed in any type or GT5 racing so you don't get "Gran Turismo finger"

My league is Mopar. I have threads up on Mopar. My team does any type of dirty racing.

Uhh... Serious? Use the edit button, dont triple post.

 

[The Stig Farmer]

Triple post... ouch...

 

[Exorcet]

That is the point of this thread, to appreciate dirty racing and consider it legitimate racing not call it bumper cars

Should be quite easy considering that any room a host sets up that has clearly defined rules is legitimate. People might think otherwise, but nothing is special about clean racing. Even if I personally prefer it by miles and miles.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Not to be mean but the more you practice dirty racing the less that will happen.

Some what luck but thats part of the fun, no one knows who will win

 

[The Stig Farmer]

Dirty NASCAR is pretty damn fun and it's the type of dirty racing room I join most. Should try it on the normal circuits.

I made a short oval in Course Maker, is a configuration like that a good banger racing track?

 

[Samus]

That is the point of this thread, to appreciate dirty racing and consider it legitimate racing not call it bumper cars

How on earth is it legitimate racing? If you enjoy it then fine but it's not a legitimate way of racing and never will be, not in a game which clearly markets itself as a serious racing/driving game anyway. I don't even see how you can consider it racing.

PD will never embrace it, if you want that you need an arcade game like Destruction Derby.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Exactly, the people in dirty rooms like it and there is enough people to make it truly matter (and apparently enough people to complain too) but every type of racing has prople who love and hate it.

 

[Samus]

Exactly, the people in dirty rooms like it and there is enough people to make it truly matter (and apparently enough people to complain too) but every type of racing has prople who love and hate it.

le·git·i·mate
/liˈjitəmit/

Adjective
Conforming to the law or to rules: "his claims to legitimate authority".

Verb
Justify or make lawful.

Synonyms
adjective. lawful - legal - rightful - just - licit - valid
verb. legitimize - legalize - warrant - justify - legitimatize

Like I said I don't care if you like it and label the room correctly so I can ignore it but it's not a legitimate form of racing, not in GT5 and not in the real world. Even banger racing has rules, you can't just smash and bash cars up as you like.

 

[Exorcet]

you can't just smash and bash cars up as you like.

What's stopping them? Bashing would not be legitimate in a normal room, but it clearly is in a dirty room. There is no real difference between clean and dirty, just a different set a rules. Same thing as NASCAR vs F1.