GT5 DLC future, and the full switch to GT6

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mrkevans
At least pd actually make new dlc and then release it, unlike some games where they hold back on content created at time of release so they can sell you it as dlc a few weeks later, codemasters and turn 10 do this all the time! It's a con as its content that should have been in the game from start, unfortunately this seems to be the trend at the minuet and is only going to get worse with having to purchase online passes too.
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Just like all those patches that PD released that shouldn't have taken them five years and then a sixth after the game was released to give out the patches. Though other games do it as well and shouldn't have to either. Also the DLC packs released by PD have cars that could have easily been RM models from the get go. Some GT fans make double standards for PD but rattle off and blame other makers. You have a choice to buy DLC or not, but if you plan to complain about one game maker then you better do it to all because none of them are the field of flowers some people make them out to be.

Also what Codemasters game does this? Their F1 game had the only DLC I didn't like, and that was the one you had to download to play multi-player. Nor did I like the fact they needed patches early on (same with GT5). However, the PC version of the game is leaps better than the console. T10 have practiced this model from the last Forza game, so it isn't anything new and if you bought the collectors addition you got 25 cars more than GT5 offered. Which one was the American Muscle car pack which was free I believe to all the forza games on day one.
 
The way I think PD wants to play this game, would be to keep GT5 well supported, essentially using it as a Prologue for GT6 on PS4. At least it seems that they're using GT5 as a testing bed with all the patches and updates they've provided.

If they hold their promise of DLC every 2 months, then that's more than enough to keep most people happy, and make no mistake, I believe PD has a LOT more finished content tucked away for GT6 than people think, so I think this whole thought of PD taking 5-6 for next GT is a joke.
 
Dont ever count on a GT5 "season pass" Japanese production houses dont operate this way. I would like to see tons more dlc, i would pay alot to see valuable dlc.
 
I'm anti-DLC, so I won't be purchasing any no matter how good it might be. I wish PD would release the game, support it via patches for a reasonable amount of time, and dedicate their additional resources towards the next version of the game.

The one and only game series that's the exception to this rule for me is Mass Effect; and even then I don't like it, but choose to put up with it because if I don't I'll miss out on important parts of the story. With GT I'm not missing enough to make it worth the money.
 
This is not a GT vs FM thread (we already have one of those), over sixty posts deleted and warnings/infractions issued.

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Vaxxtx
PD is the old, grumpy man of devs. Stuck in their ways, afraid of change, and lack the will to expand and learn.

As much as I want gt6 to be good, I see another flop, IMO. The way PD has handled gt5 and updates/dlc, it gives me no faith.

Kaz needs to go. Sony needs a new studio.
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This has to be the most heartless comment Iäve ever read here.
 
occasionalracer
This has to be the most heartless comment Iäve ever read here.
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Seems somewhat untrue as well. I think PD's done at least a satisfactory job of supporting and patching their software as the years have gone by. Personally, I would rate their efforts higher than satisfactory. Sure, the game has some inherent flaws, but it's still an overall solid effort.
 
They should just concetrate on the game and not think about DLC. When they are developing stuff for the sequel. They can release it for the game currently avaliable on the market.

For example, SPA and other content that is going to be in next game is already been developed. So, as and when it is done they can try to implement that in GT5 and release it as DLC.
 
kimi123
They should just concetrate on the game and not think about DLC. When they are developing stuff for the sequel. They can release it for the game currently avaliable on the market.

For example, SPA and other content that is going to be in next game is already been developed. So, as and when it is done they can try to implement that in GT5 and release it as DLC.
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That makes no sense. You said not to think about DLC then in the very next sentence said they should release things as DLC.
 
Well I can't think of any other game that has been supported as much as GT5. Sure it was disappointing but then Kaz started listening and a year later it's a much better game. Like others said GT5 was (is) a learning experience for PD and they have a much clearer picture of what people want for GT6. But people shouldn't expect large car packs, they are modelling the cars for GT6.

On another note, it's funny how in some threads people complain that some premium cars are just slight variations of existing cars, yet others complain that PD didn't model variations of existing premium cars to increase premium car count. Seems as whatever PD does about that people will complain.
 
OHM_fusion
Well I can't think of any other game that has been supported as much as GT5.
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I've read this sooooooo many times and every time I sigh. GT5 was only supported so much because it needed to be, so much was missing from GT5 1.0 they couldn't get away with leaving it in that state. If you release a finished game in the first place it doesn't need 12 months of patches to finish it, just two or three to fix bugs.
 
No, I am saying a game cannot have a DLC day1 month1 or any time soon after release. If they do, it should free. Because they couldn't finish everything on time so release them when it is done. Right now they probably have some 4-5 tracks and some 50-60cars for next game in development already. If they want they can probably release it when it is done, for GT5. This type of DLC obviously won't be free.

Also there was no need for updates. They already got their money with sales. Post launch support was not required. They value their game and their fans so they did updates to improve the game.
 
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SimonK
I've read this sooooooo many times and every time I sigh. GT5 was only supported so much because it needed to be, so much was missing from GT5 1.0 they couldn't get away with leaving it in that state. If you release a finished game in the first place it doesn't need 12 months of patches to finish it, just two or three to fix bugs.
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You're right. Because the software developers at PD couldn't get it perfect the first time they should have just completely given up. We shouldn't praise them for continuing to improve upon their product.
 
SimonK
I've read this sooooooo many times and every time I sigh. GT5 was only supported so much because it needed to be, so much was missing from GT5 1.0 they couldn't get away with leaving it in that state. If you release a finished game in the first place it doesn't need 12 months of patches to finish it, just two or three to fix bugs.
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You say like supporting the game is a bad thing. Yes it was supported this much because it was needed. Yes it was released in a terrible state. But free patches fixed a lot of stuff community wanted, i can't see how is that a problem.
 
OHM_fusion
On another note, it's funny how in some threads people complain that some premium cars are just slight variations of existing cars, yet others complain that PD didn't model variations of existing premium cars to increase premium car count. Seems as whatever PD does about that people will complain.
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More like if they aren't going to bother making all new cars, they might as well make the most of the effort they are putting into it.
 
Most of the patches have been focused on new stuff and support not fixing bugs. In fact many new things are huge additions to the franchise. It also highlights how much good after release support helps.

I think it's the best supported non subscription game I have ever played. I am playing more now than at launch.
 
kimi123
Also there was no need for updates. They already got their money with sales. Post launch support was not required. They value their game and their fans so they did updates to improve the game.
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GT5 needed updates.
 
occasionalracer
This has to be the most heartless comment Iäve ever read here.
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Then you don't read here much lol.

Why is my opinion heartless? If a pitcher, or qb is doing bad...you replace them. They need a new studio, that can release a game sooner than 5 years. A complete game. Not one that needs a year worth of fixes and updates. Just seems Kaz and PD are past their prime, and won't evolve. I want to see the gt series continue in a good way...and I don't see Kaz being able to do it.
 
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