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It's been a minute. Took an hiatus, and when I returned, my venerable Bravia gave up the ghost. After taking delivery of its replacement this Saturday, I shall wreak havoc on Daily Races once more.

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I don't know how many races I'll do at Sardegna this week, but I'll spend some time there. I'm using the Supra but I've seen a nice variety of cars so far. I have a 1:41.7XX and I can probably get that down lower but I'm satisfied with my time.

My first race has me in P9 but I'm still within a few tenths of the leader so it's not so bad. Lots of contact in the opening moments of the race. I try a move around the outside entering the double 90 degree corners, but a driver cuts drifts into my line and I hit them. So naturally they retaliate and send me off track. I finish P8 with all of the spins, wrecks, and rage quits.

I start P9 again and lots of desperate moves on the first lap. I got bumped and passed and the person who did so threw blocks on me the rest of the race. They tried to slam me into the wall on the final 90 degree corner and took themselves out and I drove away to a P6 finish. I decide to call it a night to avoid any more of the chaos.

I might try out some other cars tomorrow and see what I can do with them. I'll probably just stick with the Supra as it's a nice option for me so far.
 
A perfect example of what I'm on about.

He's done this 3/4 times now this week. This was after we'd already raced this morning, he didn't do anything in race 1 but I finished miles clear of him in 2nd and he was miles down the order. This was the 2nd race, basically the same lobby so had a great chance of a win (my race pace is quicker than P1/P2). You can I purposely take a wide line because he was on me from the start somehow and I saw him making a move to the inside. Then he unquestionably just turns right in the middle of the corner to hit me off the track.

He got a 5 second penalty and ended up last but I had to come back from 15th to 9th.



Ugh. (I'm obviously in the Sky livery he hits)

In other news, I just saw I'm now just 0.001s off Tidgney (using a controller!)

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To @Chris30 For you it would be a waste of time, because you are all about gaining and not losing DR and earning money. If I would lead the race and get disconnected, sure it would be really frustrating, but I would still had 23 practice laps, which I do easily till my qualifying time is ok'ish. Don't get me wrong Chris, but I read so many of your comments, that give me the feeling that you can't really enjoy a race. I'm also a bit nervous, before start and all, I had fantastic races, destroyed in the last corner by some idiot, whose mother was watching and she'll be so proud when little Kevin crosses the line in 5th instead of 6th 👏🙄 but I still enjoyed the race. I even look forward to the next one, cause the chanes to meet the bad driver again are high.
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And I have to admit,: boys, I was so wrong on the influence of BB, I should have been tared and feathered by you. But honestly, how can BB effect everything especially how it handles through corners. I use the BB now as a traction control. The Porsche rsr for example - I drove BB +1 everything else off. Twitchy, tends to have a lose tail, I lose a lot of time at the critical corners.
Bb-1 (a bit more breaking force to front wheels) and I can hardly make a mistake. The difference were nearly 3 seconds. That's unbelievable to me.. I don't get, why it's effecting the acceleration out of corners.
My time at sardegna A at the moment 1.42.835 in "ze" Porsche. But with the Genesis, nearly exact time (both on bb-1 tcs0 assistant off abs standard) my friendslist leader is once more Barney the Dog. I'm 33rd. Which must and will improve, but everybody is driving Race B this week.
 
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Charmantha
But honestly, how can BB effect everything especially how it handles through corners.
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More braking force loosens the opposite end. So if you move BB back, you're a bit looser due to oversteer as there's less force on the front end, move it forward and you're a bit "safer" or understeery under braking as the front wheels are a little more locked.

So if you have a car which is naturally a bit loose (such as the 911), you might need to stabilise it and give it a little more understeer with BB, and vice versa for cars which don't have a good natural turn in.
Charmantha
Twitchy, tends to have a lose tail, I lose a lot of time at the critical corners.
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Charmantha
I don't get, why it's effecting the acceleration out of corners.
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It's cause and effect. If you're twitchier and have a loose tail, you'll struggle under acceleration because your car isn't pointing in a straight line so you don't have maximum grip. BB itself won't impact the actual acceleration, but the "shape" of the car at the apex will.

Hopefully I've explained it okay?

As an example, at Sardegna I go with +1 for the Supra and +3 for the Genesis as I find the Supra is a little more wiggly under braking and turn in and the Genesis needs the help to rotate. (Those example are just my opinion)
 
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Charmantha
To @Chris30 For you it would be a waste of time, because you are all about gaining and not losing DR and earning money. If I would lead the race and get disconnected, sure it would be really frustrating, but I would still had 23 practice laps, which I do easily till my qualifying time is ok'ish. Don't get me wrong Chris, but I read so many of your comments, that give me the feeling that you can't really enjoy a race. I'm also a bit nervous, before start and all, I had fantastic races, destroyed in the last corner by some idiot, whose mother was watching and she'll be so proud when little Kevin crosses the line in 5th instead of 6th 👏🙄 but I still enjoyed the race. I even look forward to the next one, cause the chanes to meet the bad driver again are high.
++ (not only for Chris 30)
And I have to admit,: boys, I was so wrong on the influence of BB, I should have been tared and feathered by you. But honestly, how can BB effect everything especially how it handles through corners. I use the BB now as a traction control. The Porsche rsr for example - I drove BB +1 everything else off. Twitchy, tends to have a lose tail, I lose a lot of time at the critical corners.
Bb-1 (a bit more breaking force to front wheels) and I can hardly make a mistake. The difference were nearly 3 seconds. That's unbelievable to me.. I don't get, why it's effecting the acceleration out of corners.
My time at sardegna A at the moment 2.02.8xx in Porsche or Genesis, both nearly exact time (both on bb-1 tcs0 assistant off abs standard) my friendslist leader is once more Barney the Dog.
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Acceleration out of corners is highly affected by the the approach (braking phase), travel speed and position of the car at mid corner (apex). It's basically a cat catching his tail. The wrong approach and incorrect travel speed (either too fast or slow) give you a bad exit. Each corner has some compromise to be taken in count. The goal is to have as stable as possible car in braking phases, so you can lean on it and push. An unbalanced or nervous car in braking desn't allow much consistancy, which is also what we need when trying to push the boudaries.
So the braking is vital, in order to put the car in the rigth sweet spot to get the faster exit speed by consequence. it doesn't affect the dinamics of the vehicle per se during a particular corner, but helps to keep the car balanced along the differents phases like travel and accelersation.
 
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ElectricNaz
A perfect example of what I'm on about.

He's done this 3/4 times now this week. This was after we'd already raced this morning, he didn't do anything in race 1 but I finished miles clear of him in 2nd and he was miles down the order. This was the 2nd race, basically the same lobby so had a great chance of a win (my race pace is quicker than P1/P2). You can I purposely take a wide line because he was on me from the start somehow and I saw him making a move to the inside. Then he unquestionably just turns right in the middle of the corner to hit me off the track.

He got a 5 second penalty and ended up last but I had to come back from 15th to 9th.



Ugh. (I'm obviously in the Sky livery he hits)

In other news, I just saw I'm now just 0.001s off Tidgney (using a controller!)

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He didn't "understeer against you" by mistake or miscalculation, he did just target you, steering to the opposite of the corner. So that to me can be called "blatant cheating" (or trolling if anybody wants).
 
ElectricNaz
As an example, at Sardegna I go with +1 for the Supra and +3 for the Genesis as I find the Supra is a little more wiggly under braking and turn in and the Genesis needs the help to rotate. (Those example are just my opinion)
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I'll try +3 in the Genesis - I've been at +2 and took 3 tenths off my 458 time. I'm hopeless in the Supra but I'm starting to get used to the Genesis. So much time to gain (or lose!) in the last 3 corners.

As far as racing goes, it's been dire - people just diving for a tiny gap then running me on the gravel. Gone from low A+ to low A in about 8 races.

I'd do better at Spa but not got the time after work to do a race ☹️
 
Barney Da Dog
I'll try +3 in the Genesis - I've been at +2 and took 3 tenths off my 458 time. I'm hopeless in the Supra but I'm starting to get used to the Genesis. So much time to gain (or lose!) in the last 3 corners.

As far as racing goes, it's been dire - people just diving for a tiny gap then running me on the gravel. Gone from low A+ to low A in about 8 races.

I'd do better at Spa but not got the time after work to do a race ☹️
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2 tips for the supra

Out of the first corner exit in 3rd you get all the traction and acceleration.

On the church left hander short shift to 4th for the exit

I use 3 to front but my braking style is very much early and then pumped as needed so the stopping power at the front for me works, at the rear it feels like I'm dragging the car rather than digging the front in to the ground.

Everyone's mileage varies with these things so go with what suits you good friend 👍
 
What brake bias do supra drivers use? I want to say - 2 is good but I do get a bit of lock up from time to time.
 
Rossell2
What brake bias do supra drivers use? I want to say - 2 is good but I do get a bit of lock up from time to time.
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newmedia_dev
2 tips for the supra

Out of the first corner exit in 3rd you get all the traction and acceleration.

On the church left hander short shift to 4th for the exit

I use 3 to front but my braking style is very much early and then pumped as needed so the stopping power at the front for me works, at the rear it feels like I'm dragging the car rather than digging the front in to the ground.

Everyone's mileage varies with these things so go with what suits you good friend 👍
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Chris30


Here was one of my runs for Sardegna, no matter how hard I plan or try it I always tend to lose time at T1, because I'll have to brake early so I don't miss the turn. I did all right at those turns where the black/yellow arrow signs are but still I feel like I'm losing necessary time here, frustrating in a way but what can I really do?

I don't think a wheel would help me in this situation because I am not familiar with the FFB and other features. And the pedals would be a new adjustment for me anyways. Maybe I should try a different car, I don't think the RSR fits for this track. And the sharp left turn and right turn before the finish gets me too, I have to watch my back and not run into the walls.
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You're braking far too early on most corners. Some corners you are back on the accelerator before the apex. Try braking at about 110 - 120 before all the sharp lefts. The left with the wall, try turning in later. It's a long uphill straight after so you want maximum exit speed. A wheel doesn't make you faster but more consistent as you can feel more. I'm so far from the top at this game so there is much better advice than this but I hope it helps
 
Duppy Gee
You're braking far too early on most corners. Some corners you are back on the accelerator before the apex. Try braking at about 110 - 120 before all the sharp lefts. The left with the wall, try turning in later. It's a long uphill straight after so you want maximum exit speed. A wheel doesn't make you faster but more consistent as you can feel more. I'm so far from the top at this game so there is much better advice than this but I hope it helps
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Chris, let the car flow a bit more be clear on your braking and coasting/transition to the throttle. Every thing looks really busy approaching corners. Try to do things in phases/stages, braking stage, coast/maintenance stage/acceleration stage.

Also some of those lines are way to tight for good exits, think about how can you take that corner with the least amount of steering, wide, later and smoother.
 
newmedia_dev
Chris, let the car flow a bit more be clear on your braking and coasting/transition to the throttle. Every thing looks really busy approaching corners. Try to do things in phases/stages, braking stage, coast/maintenance stage/acceleration stage.

Also some of those lines are way to tight for good exits, think about how can you take that corner with the least amount of steering, wide, later and smoother.
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See. Better advice already. 😁
 
Nice to be back in Sardinia again! Had a lovely battle today with some really nice and clean folks (and a few apples, but not overly rotten). I started second, P1 was a bit early on the brakes at first corner on first lap, which surprised me and only way to avoid a crash was the sand. So from my now P16 I spent the next 4 laps working myself up to P5 - mostly capitalizing on cars oversteer spins here and there, but also some really nice and tight battles and clean passes. I've always sucked at passing others, but somehow here at the island it just works for me. Must be the vodka pasta.

Long story short, last corner I have the fastest lap coming, but final 90 degree left corner I get greedy and come on the throttle a bit too aggressive and spins into the left wall after apex... Finish P10.

My wife was on a sunny mode today, so I managed to get allowance for a few more races. They went along about the same line, so tonight I will fall asleep happier then I've been for months! Thank you PD!

Oh how I wish I would have been born 40 years later, so I could enjoy the next 40 or so more years of this!
 
It's maybe 600 percent doing well but you loose 600 percent if you don't do well which I think is totally wrong and unfairly because the fact you work so hard to get a DR rating high when no bonuses are there also the miss match of cars you use but if something happens while in a race you are unable to catch up and of course ppl doing bad things like taking you out.
 
Hi, along my M6 "Sprint" I'm electing the 911 RSR as second Gt3 of my "Scuderia". 1 hr practice in Sardegna in the M6 resulted in a 1:41.5xx. The next half hr in the Porsche allowed an "easy" 1:41.40x. So I'm reckoning that the 911 has a lot more potential and suits better my driving style. I'm way less "in tension" while driving it compared to the BMW, wich seems a lil always on the edge, ready to bite me. The 911 looks more sincere and I find (to me) easier to lean on it.
Now it is becoming my 1st choise, relegating the M6 as second one.
So thanks guys for the good advise. 👍
 
The most interesting part of that to me is Race C being x1/x1, no required pit.

That would normally imply weather to me, but these normally leak the wet tyres when weather is involved. I'm interested to see if this is PD patching that leak, or if it's just a zero strategy race for some reason.
 
Ive really been enjoying the racing I've gotten the last few weeks. After only getting to do a couple hours of racing sunday night the past two weeks and having great racing, has made me go for a bit everyday after work this week.

Over the course of all that i went from a high/mid B to a low A which has generally had me racing mid to rear of the pack most races. Which is fine cuse I've had some really good and clean competition in each one. Yeah some stuff has also happened that put me at the back, but it honestly felt like honest mistakes and racing incidents. Here is an example of the grids I've been getting, top ten are only .5 apart.....

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I hope to do more racing through the weekend. Say hello if ya see me. And feel free to send friend requests
 
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