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After so much Gr.3 lately, it's time to change for something challenging. So this week it will be Gr.1 at HSR. As first day of practice (really thanking Tidgney) 56.836 is quite encouraging, considering I've never driven before the R92. For the aero setting I go to minimum allowed and try to survive in bends. Seems to work. Didn't touch yet susp. or diff. settings, only 1 point more on both antirollbar.
 
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GrumpyOldMan
I'm scared to even try Race B, because I have no idea what to do with all the settings. I mean, what's the point in trying hard to get a good QT, when if I have the wrong settings, I don't stand a chance?
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I agree, hence why I don't like tuning races (even if it's minimal). Ain't nobody got time to click adjust a little at a time and trial and error it.

Heck, you can't even take someone else's settings as there's no one size fits all; what works for them may not for you. I want to race other drivers, not their settings.
 
GrumpyOldMan
I'm scared to even try Race B, because I have no idea what to do with all the settings. I mean, what's the point in trying hard to get a good QT, when if I have the wrong settings, I don't stand a chance?
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I played around with the settings a bit.
In the Nissan, I found that 650 front downforce, and 1050 rear gave me the best combination of speed/grip.
 
I just drove lowest possible downforce, didnt care to change anything else. Did some quali laps. Im at 57 sharp with 56.8 optimum as a B driver. A drivers can surely get near the 55.x seconds.

Turn 2 is the only real danger with low downforce. It's hard to keep a bit of pace and not smash into the wall. Rest of the turns I'll survive and the straights are easy peasy. Maybe you can even go full throttle in the last turn, with minimal downforce. Up until now I did slight lifts every time just to be safe.
 
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GrumpyOldMan
I'm scared to even try Race B, because I have no idea what to do with all the settings. I mean, what's the point in trying hard to get a good QT, when if I have the wrong settings, I don't stand a chance?
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Just dial aero off and brake for the essess.

The times are so marginal you want top speed and just deal with the slightly slower corners.

Top speed, I repeat top speed. No aero!
 
Talon16
I agree, hence why I don't like tuning races (even if it's minimal). Ain't nobody got time to click adjust a little at a time and trial and error it.

Heck, you can't even take someone else's settings as there's no one size fits all; what works for them may not for you. I want to race other drivers, not their settings.
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That's why I go for big swings usually (full max or min) and then dial them back if I don't like them.
 
GTWolverine
That's why I go for big swings usually (full max or min) and then dial them back if I don't like them.
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If it's just downforce then yea, that's a good way to do it. But if it's all of the suspension then it's a multivariable situation so it's a little more tricky.

I usually just steal someone's from online and as long as the car drives good I roll with it... whether it's the fastest or not.
 
Talon16
If it's just downforce then yea, that's a good way to do it. But if it's all of the suspension then it's a multivariable situation so it's a little more tricky.

I usually just steal someone's from online and as long as the car drives good I roll with it... whether it's the fastest or not.
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My suspension tuning method is always:
  • Stiffen springs as much as possible
  • Stiffen anti-roll bars as much as possible
  • Soften damper compression as much as possible
  • Stiffen damper rebound as much as possible
Diff and toe settings I do have to make more fine adjustments with (except for diff decel which is always minimum).
 
I tried a few laps of Race B with the standard tune but with downforce at minimum. Got 56.782 - could definitely be improved upon as my lines were poor through the twisty bits.



As for racing, I'd prefer keeping a little bit of downforce as I find lap times more consistent, and there's less chance of brushing the wall out of the last turn.
 
Barney Da Dog
I tried a few laps of Race B with the standard tune but with downforce at minimum. Got 56.782 - could definitely be improved upon as my lines were poor through the twisty bits.



As for racing, I'd prefer keeping a little bit of downforce as I find lap times more consistent, and there's less chance of brushing the wall out of the last turn.
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Well you made that look easy 😁 thanks for the set up tips, I suppose you need to be lightning quick too to put that all in before lights out
 
Barney Da Dog
As for racing, I'd prefer keeping a little bit of downforce as I find lap times more consistent, and there's less chance of brushing the wall out of the last turn.
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Nice lap! As for racing: What is a little more downforce in your opinion? I also tried 600 / 1150 for a few laps yesterday. This already slowed me down somewhat on the straights, but it didn't feel any better during cornering. So I dialed it back to 500 / 1000 for mega top speed.

Mistah_MCA
At least in Time Trial, you can take the final turn flat out with 550 (front)/1000 (rear) downforce. In race, I do courtesy lifts to not end up in the wall.
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I will try this, thanks.


The last corner is not so tricky for me, though not lifting at all will make you faster because of the enormous straight after it ofcourse. The real tricky part is turn 2, which is (at least with a low downforce setup) a combination of braking early but steering very late. Hard to get it precisely on the green part of the track without clipping the wall.

I think race B will become more hectic as the week progresses (instead of less hectic like you normally would expect when people are learning the cars / track combo). At some point most people go for the fastest car / downforce combination which will make racing closer again. With this speeds and wall penalties it will become a mayhem.
 
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Goanaut
Nice lap! As for racing: What is a little more downforce in your opinion? I also tried 600 / 1150 for a few laps yesterday. This already slowed me down somewhat on the straights, but it didn't feel any better during cornering. So I dialed it back to 500 / 1000 for mega top speed.
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After doing a few more races, I think just reducing the downforce to minimum is good enough for racing - just have to be careful on the last turn.

Given the race choices this week though, I think it's a good week for me to make more liveries 🤣
 
Yeah, strugglin' with the last turn in B. Starting to come to grips with T2 and FINALLY learned a bit of patience for the slow section through 3 and 4. I just can't get the final turn-in right. Need more laps...

Haven't tried C yet...gonna need No-Doz or something for the Mulsanne. I'm in the Porsche, gonna take a minute...or three.🤣

:cheers:

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Just occurred to me that the Mulsanne is almost 4 miles long (3.7). Even at 180 mph (3 miles p/min), it's gonna be more than a minute, lol.
 
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mellofello9
Yeah, strugglin' with the last turn in B. Starting to come to grips with T2 and FINALLY learned a bit of patience for the slow section through 3 and 4. I just can't get the final turn-in right. Need more laps...

Haven't tried C yet...gonna need No-Doz or something for the Mulsanne. I'm in the Porsche, gonna take a minute...or three.🤣

:cheers:

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Just occurred to me that the Mulsanne is almost 4 miles long (3.7). Even at 180 mph (3 miles p/min), it's gonna be more than a minute, lol.
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Yeah I wonder how many ppl allow draft passes or if they just ram you off per se 🤣
 
Backing down a little from my excitement for race C. The slip is too strong. It's a bit annoying to gain .500" on the car behind in the turny areas (or as I like to call them, the "skill bits" of the track) only too see it vanish a second onto the straight. Also, if the people around you aren't willing to work with you your race is over. Also also many don't know how to handle the extra 15mph when braking for Mulsanne.

Bump draft too aggressively and you risk damage to your car and the other persons. Bump draft at all (which you have to in order to remain competitive) and you risk SR drop.

In theory keeping all the cars bunched up makes the racing better but unfortunately I believe it has the opposite effect.
 
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It might be recency bias but it feels like more and more of the combos combined with physics/FFB changes are becoming weeks that I'm skipping. As I mentioned earlier even the TTs aren't ones that I'd enjoy grinding/lapping :(
 
Any DR resets yet? 😅 This week seems to destroy SR in every race if you want to be competitive in any form. Putting a bumb draft race in race C and giving penalty when people do it is just stupid. Maybe I drive around as a backmarker in race A to save my SR and DR. What a waste of time that is.. maybe just better off waiting until next week.

There also should be a "ultra high speed" bop. Detuning GT3s to 450hp for lemans doesnt make sense. That 1min Mulsanne is also kind of a waste of time.
 
brockie
Yeah I wonder how many ppl allow draft passes or if they just ram you off per se 🤣
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Imma gonna find-out later. My default pass-mode is around the outside...that may not be ideal this week. Everyone gonna be running minimum downforce so will be using everyone else's tires to stay off the walls on exit. Oh, and in the braking zone, too.

These cars are amazing. Running downforce at the minimum still generates a DF poundage equivalent to MORE THAN a Lotus Super7.🤣

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Well, I am out for the week.

Three races at LeMans. 1 finish. 3 first lap incidents. One bump and spin at Indianapolis caused me to take out a handful of cars. The bump drafting pushed me into the rear of others.

Three races to go from A+ S to A B. I have a lot of work ahead of me IF we ever get away from these arcade races 😔

Talon16
I agree, hence why I don't like tuning races (even if it's minimal). Ain't nobody got time to click adjust a little at a time and trial and error it.

Heck, you can't even take someone else's settings as there's no one size fits all; what works for them may not for you. I want to race other drivers, not their settings.
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I'm a big fan of the brake balance adjustment and it tends to be a personal thing rather than a car thing. What bothers me is the inconsistency of it all. Either allow us to adjust the cars over time and save (and share) the set ups OR lock it out. This race to race availability, and changing what is available, AND having to change it prerace is all BS
 
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Voodoovaj
This race to race availability, and changing what is available, AND having to change it prerace is all BS
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I totally agree, especially when I forget to change BB before racing and need to race with an unbalanced (for me) car. At least it should be some save setup possibility, so we don't need to change setting every frick... race we get in. When setting parameters are even more than just BB it becomes just annoing.
 
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newmedia_dev
It might be recency bias but it feels like more and more of the combos combined with physics/FFB changes are becoming weeks that I'm skipping. As I mentioned earlier even the TTs aren't ones that I'd enjoy grinding/lapping :(
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Yeah. Haven’t raced much in the past month because gr1/2 is just too much jiggle ride. Tuning it out leaves the wheel in an acceptable (not great..but fine) for gr3 down. But above its either a dumpster fire, or too weak to want to do it anymore.

The aggressiveness of the oscillation by the end of a straight at sarthe, relative to the state of affairs over at fanatec (rma’s), plays a role as well.

Anyone who thinks pd caters to wheel users is nuts. This has been since july
 
So far I’ve only tried Race B at High Speed Ring. At first I thought that I was going to get murdered on track, but after running Quali laps in the R18 I had a little hope of not finishing last.

Got a podium spot on my second race after having a strange bug in the first, causing me to actually finish in the middle if the pack, surprisingly.

Lap times were around 1:02. The Audi is faster in the corners, but not as fast on the straights.
 
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Kriptical
Yeah. Haven’t raced much in the past month because gr1/2 is just too much jiggle ride. Tuning it out leaves the wheel in an acceptable (not great..but fine) for gr3 down. But above its either a dumpster fire, or too weak to want to do it anymore.

The aggressiveness of the oscillation by the end of a straight at sarthe, relative to the state of affairs over at fanatec (rma’s), plays a role as well.

Anyone who thinks pd caters to wheel users is nuts. This has been since july
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They don't cater to controller players either, that's probably in the worst state it's been in since launch. It can just remove your steering input in corners at the minute due to how the filtering works. It's nasty.

As with everything PD does - I don't think they cater to anything in particular but I don't think they do any of it particularly well. Ergo, you have wheel players complaining they are being neglected, and controller players thinking the same. You see the same thing everywhere - singleplayer players thinking that Sport Mode is all PD care about and Sport Mode players complaining they aren't getting any content. It's just gross mismanagement from top to bottom throughout the whole game.
 
So is the GTE-spec Ford GT still the go-to for Race C? I haven't had a chance to try qualifying nor example the leaderboards yet, so I'm wondering if there are any other Gr.3 machines that would be especially splendid for this layout.
 
Apparently race B is my jive or something. Picked up another win. Normally I find even Gr 3 cars almost too speedy. But the HSR, as the name suggests, is very suitable for these speeds.

I got a 2 seconds (!!) penalty for bumpdrafting someone in race B btw. I was faster on the exit of turn 2 but got nowhere to go, so decided to bump. Bad idea apparently. This threw away at least a P2 and maybe even another win. Still finished 3rd, a podium is nice enough.
 
Goanaut
Apparently race B is my jive or something. Picked up another win. Normally I find even Gr 3 cars almost too speedy. But the HSR, as the name suggests, is very suitable for these speeds.

I got a 2 seconds (!!) penalty for bumpdrafting someone in race B btw. I was faster on the exit of turn 2 but got nowhere to go, so decided to bump. Bad idea apparently. This threw away at least a P2 and maybe even another win. Still finished 3rd, a podium is nice enough.
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Probably hit them hard enough to cause damage, which sucks when it's your only option...well, I suppose you could lift off the throttle and all, but that realization always seems to hit me AFTER the 'action window' has closed.🤣
 
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